Home LAN : XP Pro SP2 - passwords ? Master browser ?

[Pete Kennedy]

Hi,

I recently connected a new laptop running XP Pro SP2 to an existing network
with the host desktop running XP Pro SP2 and a client running XP Home SP2. I
have a very common problem in that the host can't see the new laptop in my
network places. Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2, can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't. The new laptop can access the other
computers' files. I think the problem was initially caused when the network
cable was plugged into the new laptop for the first time - DHCP attributed
an IP address and the (third party) firewall immediately thought an attack
was coming from the host and blocked it. So, an election was held and the
new laptop designated itself as the master browser. So now the LAN has
perhaps two master browsers and, chaos.

I've read that you can disable the browser service but that its not
necessarily a good idea to do so. I wonder therefore whether it wouldn't be
a better idea to reinstall the network connnection on the new laptop without
running the firewall at the same time. I can then configure the firewall on
each PC manually to stop false "attacks". Is this advisable or is there a
better solution ? And what would happen when the laptop was opened without
being connected to the LAN - another election ?

Also, I have seen that user account passwords must be used on XP Pro
machines with simple file sharing enabled. However, the desktop XP Pro and
the old laptop running XP Home see each other just fine without passwords
and can access each others files. So, is it really necessary or is the
current situation a reflection of a duff network configuration ?

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers

 

[Chuck]

Hi,

I recently connected a new laptop running XP Pro SP2 to an existing network
with the host desktop running XP Pro SP2 and a client running XP Home SP2. I
have a very common problem in that the host can't see the new laptop in my
network places. Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2, can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't. The new laptop can access the other
computers' files. I think the problem was initially caused when the network
cable was plugged into the new laptop for the first time - DHCP attributed
an IP address and the (third party) firewall immediately thought an attack
was coming from the host and blocked it. So, an election was held and the
new laptop designated itself as the master browser. So now the LAN has
perhaps two master browsers and, chaos.

I've read that you can disable the browser service but that its not
necessarily a good idea to do so. I wonder therefore whether it wouldn't be
a better idea to reinstall the network connnection on the new laptop without
running the firewall at the same time. I can then configure the firewall on
each PC manually to stop false "attacks". Is this advisable or is there a
better solution ? And what would happen when the laptop was opened without
being connected to the LAN - another election ?

Also, I have seen that user account passwords must be used on XP Pro
machines with simple file sharing enabled. However, the desktop XP Pro and
the old laptop running XP Home see each other just fine without passwords
and can access each others files. So, is it really necessary or is the
current situation a reflection of a duff network configuration ?

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers

Pete,

The complaint "Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2, can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't" is likely a browser problem. Please
read my browser article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>

The problem is not false "attacks" that can be blocked by a firewall. The
problem is the master browser election process.

If the laptop is running the browser service, and you start it without
connecting it to the LAN, then yes, it will quite likely elect itself a master
browser. Connect it, and you will have chaos again.

If you're running Simple File Sharing on all computers (XP Home and Pro), the
Guest account is used for authorisation. You need to either have an identical
password, or no password, on all computers.

 

[Pete]

Pete,

The complaint "Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2, can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't" is likely a browser problem.
Please
read my browser article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>

The problem is not false "attacks" that can be blocked by a firewall. The
problem is the master browser election process.

If the laptop is running the browser service, and you start it without
connecting it to the LAN, then yes, it will quite likely elect itself a
master
browser. Connect it, and you will have chaos again.

If you're running Simple File Sharing on all computers (XP Home and Pro),
the
Guest account is used for authorisation. You need to either have an
identical
password, or no password, on all computers.

Thanks,

I've disabled the Browser Service on the new (problem) laptop. However, it
doesn't appear possible to give the guest account a password, either real,
or blank. How am I supposed to do it ? Or am I supposed to give the same
password to all the other accounts on each machine.

Confused

Peter

 

[Chuck]

Thanks,

I've disabled the Browser Service on the new (problem) laptop. However, it
doesn't appear possible to give the guest account a password, either real,
or blank. How am I supposed to do it ? Or am I supposed to give the same
password to all the other accounts on each machine.

Confused

Peter

Peter,

On each computer, enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type
"net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Set the password with Start
- Run - "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password.

 

[Pete]

Peter,

On each computer, enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type
"net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Set the password with Start
- Run - "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password.

Chuck,

Ok, identical passwords set on all accounts, guests included, on all computers. The old XP Home laptop can now see the new XP Pro laptop in the workgroup area and also in my network places. Progress! However, the desktop (host) XP Pro computer cannot see the new laptop in my network places but can see it in the workgroup area. I've disabled the master browser on the new laptop. What can the problem be ?

This is the config on each machine (sorry, my versions of Windows are in French - I've translated some of it - but I daresay you'll understand what's going on) :

New XP Pro laptop :

Configuration IP Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : D7285M1J

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Node . . . . . . . . . . : Mixte

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS : mshome.net



Carte Ethernet Connexion LAN



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-11-43-74-56-2D

DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Configuration automatic enabled. . . . : Yes

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.166

Sub net . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveur DHCP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Bail obtenu . . . . . . . . . . . : lundi 2 mai 2005 23:11:37

Lease expires . . . . . . . . . . : lundi 9 mai 2005 23:11:37



Carte Ethernet Connexion réseau sans fil:



Statut du média . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-12-F0-42-99-C4

Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC329325-7BE7-41A5-ACC1-221C90F81080}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build of browser master: 5
\\\\AGNES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
Unable to retrieve server list from AGNES: 71

XP Pro Desktop (and host)

Configuration IP de Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : AGNES

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Node . . . . . . . . . . : Hybride

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Oui

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non



Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-07-E9-B1-84-2D

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Non

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . :

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1



Carte PPP Accès Internet :



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-53-45-00-00-00

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Non

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.120.19.60

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . : 82.120.19.60

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 80.10.246.1

80.10.246.132

Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F4E9C08F-D573-41AA-B90C-2B9F2D289C88}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F4E9C08F-D573-41AA-B90C-2B9F2D289C88}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F4E9C08F-D573-41AA-B90C-2B9F2D289C88}


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FEF9A325-04F7-45E8-83D9-00E7A0D8D4B9}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

Can you see anything wrong ?

Thanks

Peter

 

[Chuck]

Ok, identical passwords set on all accounts, guests included, on all computers. The old XP Home laptop can now see the new XP Pro laptop in the workgroup area and also in my network places. Progress! However, the desktop (host) XP Pro computer cannot see the new laptop in my network places but can see it in the workgroup area. I've disabled the master browser on the new laptop. What can the problem be ?

This is the config on each machine (sorry, my versions of Windows are in French - I've translated some of it - but I daresay you'll understand what's going on) :

Peter,

How about browstat and ipconfig for the third computer? Might be a clue there.

Did you disable the browser on the old laptop too? Are you running Simple File
Sharing on both XP Pro systems?

What do you mean by the workgroup area?

The browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous, on all
computers.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

For browsing to work (for each computer to be listed by a browser), each
computer must have a restrictanonymous value of "0".

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember Win2K is NT V5.0, and WinXP
is NT V5.1.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

 

[Pete Kennedy]

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.h
tml>

computers. The old XP Home laptop can now see the new XP Pro laptop in the
workgroup area and also in my network places. Progress! However, the desktop
(host) XP Pro computer cannot see the new laptop in my network places but
can see it in the workgroup area. I've disabled the master browser on the
new laptop. What can the problem be ?French - I've translated some of it - but I daresay you'll understand what's
going on) :

Peter,

How about browstat and ipconfig for the third computer? Might be a clue there.

Did you disable the browser on the old laptop too? Are you running Simple File
Sharing on both XP Pro systems?

What do you mean by the workgroup area?

The browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous, on all

computers.

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=
/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

For browsing to work (for each computer to be listed by a browser), each
computer must have a restrictanonymous value of "0".

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember Win2K is NT V5.0, and WinXP
is NT V5.1.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might

help:

<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url
=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

Chuck,

I'll run Browstat and Ipconfig on the third - XP Home - laptop and let you
have the results later (I'm in the city today and don't have access to my
LAN). By "Workgroup area", I mean the computers shown in the LAN when you
click on the MSHOME icon (sorry, I'm translating this from French). My
network places, ie shortcuts, on the XP Pro desktop which is the host, do
not show the new XP Pro laptop. However, if I click on the "show computers
in my workgroup" (or French equivalent), the new Laptop is there. The
problem is with "My Network Places" which allows for easier browsing.

I've not touched the browser service on the old XP Home computer. Should I ?
Both XP Pro machines are using SFS. I disabled the browser service on the
new XP Pro laptop. Should I re-enable it ?

Regarding the "value restrictanonymous", all values are set to "0" so that
would not appear to be the problem.

Sigh

Thanks for your help.

Peter

 

[Pete]

<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.h
tml>

computers. The old XP Home laptop can now see the new XP Pro laptop in the
workgroup area and also in my network places. Progress! However, the
desktop
(host) XP Pro computer cannot see the new laptop in my network places but
can see it in the workgroup area. I've disabled the master browser on the
new laptop. What can the problem be ?French - I've translated some of it - but I daresay you'll understand
what's
going on) :

Peter,

How about browstat and ipconfig for the third computer? Might be a clue there.

Did you disable the browser on the old laptop too? Are you running Simple File
Sharing on both XP Pro systems?

What do you mean by the workgroup area?

The browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous, on all

computers.

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=
/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

For browsing to work (for each computer to be listed by a browser), each
computer must have a restrictanonymous value of "0".

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember Win2K is NT V5.0, and WinXP
is NT V5.1.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might

help:

<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url
=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

Chuck,

I'll run Browstat and Ipconfig on the third - XP Home - laptop and let you
have the results later (I'm in the city today and don't have access to my
LAN). By "Workgroup area", I mean the computers shown in the LAN when you
click on the MSHOME icon (sorry, I'm translating this from French). My
network places, ie shortcuts, on the XP Pro desktop which is the host, do
not show the new XP Pro laptop. However, if I click on the "show computers
in my workgroup" (or French equivalent), the new Laptop is there. The
problem is with "My Network Places" which allows for easier browsing.

I've not touched the browser service on the old XP Home computer. Should I
?
Both XP Pro machines are using SFS. I disabled the browser service on the
new XP Pro laptop. Should I re-enable it ?

Regarding the "value restrictanonymous", all values are set to "0" so that
would not appear to be the problem.

Sigh

Thanks for your help.

Peter

Chuck,

This is what the third XP Home PC throws up :

Configuration IP de Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : Peter

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Type de noud . . . . . . . . . . : Mixte

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS : mshome.net



Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast
Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-06-5B-D4-61-B6

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Oui

Configuration automatique activée . . . . : Oui

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.234

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveur DHCP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Bail obtenu . . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 3 mai 2005 18:55:30

Bail expirant . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 10 mai 2005 18:55:30

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 5
\\\\AGNES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}

This compare to the problem XP Pro laptop which can't be seen by the XP Pro
host desktop :



Configuration IP de Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : D7285M1J

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Type de noud . . . . . . . . . . : Mixte

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS : mshome.net



Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-11-43-74-56-2D

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Oui

Configuration automatique activée . . . . : Oui

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.166

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveur DHCP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Bail obtenu . . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 3 mai 2005 19:53:05

Bail expirant . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 10 mai 2005 19:53:05



Carte Ethernet Connexion réseau sans fil:



Statut du média . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
Network Connection

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-12-F0-42-99-C4

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC329325-7BE7-41A5-ACC1-221C90F81080}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 5
\\\\AGNES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
Unable to retrieve server list from AGNES: 71

Why can't it retrieve the server list ? Is this the key to the problem ?

Thanks for your help.

Peter

 

[Pete]

"Chuck" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news: (e-mail address removed)...


"Chuck" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de (e-mail address removed)...
On Mon, 2 May 2005 13:57:38 +0200, "Pete Kennedy"
<[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

I recently connected a new laptop running XP Pro SP2 to an existing
network
with the host desktop running XP Pro SP2 and a client running XP
Home SP2.
I
have a very common problem in that the host can't see the new
laptop in my
network places. Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2,
can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't. The new laptop can access
the
other
computers' files. I think the problem was initially caused when the
network
cable was plugged into the new laptop for the first time - DHCP attributed
an IP address and the (third party) firewall immediately thought an attack
was coming from the host and blocked it. So, an election was held
and the
new laptop designated itself as the master browser. So now the LAN has
perhaps two master browsers and, chaos.

I've read that you can disable the browser service but that its not
necessarily a good idea to do so. I wonder therefore whether it wouldn't
be
a better idea to reinstall the network connnection on the new
laptop
without
running the firewall at the same time. I can then configure the firewall
on
each PC manually to stop false "attacks". Is this advisable or is there a
better solution ? And what would happen when the laptop was opened without
being connected to the LAN - another election ?

Also, I have seen that user account passwords must be used on XP
Pro
machines with simple file sharing enabled. However, the desktop XP Pro and
the old laptop running XP Home see each other just fine without passwords
and can access each others files. So, is it really necessary or is the
current situation a reflection of a duff network configuration ?

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers

Pete,

The complaint "Sometimes, the other laptop, running XP Home SP2,
can see
the new laptop, and sometimes it can't" is likely a browser
problem.
Please
read my browser article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.h
tml>

The problem is not false "attacks" that can be blocked by a
firewall. The
problem is the master browser election process.

If the laptop is running the browser service, and you start it without
connecting it to the LAN, then yes, it will quite likely elect
itself a
master
browser. Connect it, and you will have chaos again.

If you're running Simple File Sharing on all computers (XP Home and Pro),
the
Guest account is used for authorisation. You need to either have
an
identical
password, or no password, on all computers.

Thanks,

I've disabled the Browser Service on the new (problem) laptop.
However, it
doesn't appear possible to give the guest account a password, either real,
or blank. How am I supposed to do it ? Or am I supposed to give the same
password to all the other accounts on each machine.

Confused

Peter

Peter,

On each computer, enable the Guest account, using Start - Run -
"cmd" - type
"net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Set the password with Start
- Run - "control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password.

Ok, identical passwords set on all accounts, guests included, on all

computers. The old XP Home laptop can now see the new XP Pro laptop in
the
workgroup area and also in my network places. Progress! However, the
desktop
(host) XP Pro computer cannot see the new laptop in my network places but
can see it in the workgroup area. I've disabled the master browser on the
new laptop. What can the problem be ?

This is the config on each machine (sorry, my versions of Windows are
in

French - I've translated some of it - but I daresay you'll understand
what's
going on) :

Peter,

How about browstat and ipconfig for the third computer? Might be a clue there.

Did you disable the browser on the old laptop too? Are you running
Simple File
Sharing on both XP Pro systems?

What do you mean by the workgroup area?

The browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous, on all

computers.

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=
/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

For browsing to work (for each computer to be listed by a browser), each
computer must have a restrictanonymous value of "0".

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember Win2K is NT V5.0,
and WinXP
is NT V5.1.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool,
but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might

help:

<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url
=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes,
if
appropriate.

Chuck,

I'll run Browstat and Ipconfig on the third - XP Home - laptop and let
you
have the results later (I'm in the city today and don't have access to my
LAN). By "Workgroup area", I mean the computers shown in the LAN when
you
click on the MSHOME icon (sorry, I'm translating this from French). My
network places, ie shortcuts, on the XP Pro desktop which is the host, do
not show the new XP Pro laptop. However, if I click on the "show
computers
in my workgroup" (or French equivalent), the new Laptop is there. The
problem is with "My Network Places" which allows for easier browsing.

I've not touched the browser service on the old XP Home computer. Should
I ?
Both XP Pro machines are using SFS. I disabled the browser service on the
new XP Pro laptop. Should I re-enable it ?

Regarding the "value restrictanonymous", all values are set to "0" so
that
would not appear to be the problem.

Sigh

Thanks for your help.

Peter

Chuck,

This is what the third XP Home PC throws up :

Configuration IP de Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : Peter

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Type de noud . . . . . . . . . . : Mixte

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS : mshome.net



Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast
Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-06-5B-D4-61-B6

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Oui

Configuration automatique activée . . . . : Oui

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.234

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveur DHCP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Bail obtenu . . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 3 mai 2005 18:55:30

Bail expirant . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 10 mai 2005 18:55:30

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 5
\\\\AGNES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
There are 3 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C27FDC27-FCDC-4D55-B7C0-1BA34C27F45D}

This compare to the problem XP Pro laptop which can't be seen by the XP
Pro host desktop :



Configuration IP de Windows



Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : D7285M1J

Suffixe DNS principal . . . . . . :

Type de noud . . . . . . . . . . : Mixte

Routage IP activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . . . : Non

Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS : mshome.net



Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:



Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion : mshome.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-11-43-74-56-2D

DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Oui

Configuration automatique activée . . . . : Oui

Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.166

Masque de sous-réseau . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveur DHCP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Bail obtenu . . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 3 mai 2005 19:53:05

Bail expirant . . . . . . . . . . : mardi 10 mai 2005 19:53:05



Carte Ethernet Connexion réseau sans fil:



Statut du média . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
Network Connection

Adresse physique . . . . . . . . .: 00-12-F0-42-99-C4

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CC329325-7BE7-41A5-ACC1-221C90F81080}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AGNES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 5
\\\\AGNES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AGNES
\\AGNES
Unable to retrieve server list from AGNES: 71

Why can't it retrieve the server list ? Is this the key to the problem ?

Thanks for your help.

Peter

Chuck,

In addition to registry key "restrictanymous", there is also
restrictanymoussam which is set to "1". Is this important ?

Thanks

Peter

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

In addition to registry key "restrictanymous", there is also
restrictanymoussam which is set to "1". Is this important ?

Thanks

Peter

Peter,

The Guest account is the Windows equivalent of anonymous access, and has no
administrative authority. Browstat needs administrative authority to retrieve
the browser build information (which is in the registry). The "error = 5"
(access denied") is normal in this case.

The good news is that you don't have a browser conflict - all 3 computers see
Agnes as the master browser.

But, if you have verified that restrictanonymous (and not restrictanonymoussam,
which is irrelevant here, though good try) is "0" on all 3 computers, then we
still have a problem, if the server list isn't complete.

What personal firewalls do you have on each computer? What AntiVirus products?

Let's do some diagnostics here, and identify the scope of the problem.

Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify
computer names and ip addresses).

Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight then
Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into
Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder
"C:\".
Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
Wait patiently.
When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure
that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C)
and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.

Do this from all computers, please, with all computers powered up and online.

#####

@echo off
set FullTarget1=D7285M1J 192.168.0.166
set FullTarget2=AGNES 192.168.0.1
set FullTarget3=Peter 192.168.0.234
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32
Set Version=V1.31
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

#####

 

[Pete]

Peter,

The Guest account is the Windows equivalent of anonymous access, and has
no
administrative authority. Browstat needs administrative authority to
retrieve
the browser build information (which is in the registry). The "error = 5"
(access denied") is normal in this case.

The good news is that you don't have a browser conflict - all 3 computers
see
Agnes as the master browser.

But, if you have verified that restrictanonymous (and not
restrictanonymoussam,
which is irrelevant here, though good try) is "0" on all 3 computers, then
we
still have a problem, if the server list isn't complete.

What personal firewalls do you have on each computer? What AntiVirus
products?

Let's do some diagnostics here, and identify the scope of the problem.

Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify
computer names and ip addresses).

Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight
then
Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste (Ctrl-V)
into
Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root
folder
"C:\".
Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
Wait patiently.
When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and
ensure
that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A
Ctrl-C)
and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.

Do this from all computers, please, with all computers powered up and
online.

#####

@echo off
set FullTarget1=D7285M1J 192.168.0.166
set FullTarget2=AGNES 192.168.0.1
set FullTarget3=Peter 192.168.0.234
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32
Set Version=V1.31
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

#####

Chuck,

Thanks. I use Agnitum Outpost Pro on all 3 pcs. The AV is McAfee Viruscan 9.

Here are the results of the tests :

1) Problem XP Pro SP2 client laptop

CDiagnosis V1.31
Start diagnosis for D7285M1J
Full Targets D7285M1J 192.168.0.166 AGNES 192.168.0.1 Peter 192.168.0.234
127.0.0.1

Target D7285M1J

"D7285M1J ping D7285M1J"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur D7285M1J [192.168.0.166] avec 32 octets de
donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view D7285M1J"

Ressources partag,es de D7285M1J

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.166

"D7285M1J ping 192.168.0.166"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.166 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view 192.168.0.166"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.166

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target AGNES

"D7285M1J ping AGNES"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur AGNES.mshome.net [192.168.0.1] avec 32 octets
de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view AGNES"

Ressources partag,es de AGNES

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.1

"D7285M1J ping 192.168.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view 192.168.0.1"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.1

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target Peter

"D7285M1J ping Peter"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur Peter.mshome.net [192.168.0.234] avec 32
octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view Peter"

Ressources partag,es de Peter



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disque (UNC)
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.234

"D7285M1J ping 192.168.0.234"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.234 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps=1 ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view 192.168.0.234"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.234



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disque
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 127.0.0.1

"D7285M1J ping 127.0.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 127.0.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 127.0.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"D7285M1J net view 127.0.0.1"


Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32

Target www.yahoo.com

"D7285M1J ping www.yahoo.com"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur www.yahoo.akadns.net [216.109.118.77] avec 32
octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 216.109.118.77ÿ: octets=32 temps=136 ms TTL=52

R,ponse de 216.109.118.77ÿ: octets=32 temps=136 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.118.77ÿ: octets=32 temps=136 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.118.77ÿ: octets=32 temps=136 ms TTL=53



Statistiques Ping pour 216.109.118.77:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 136ms, Maximum = 136ms, Moyenne = 136ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"D7285M1J ping 66.94.230.32"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 66.94.230.32 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=229 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=228 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=227 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=226 ms TTL=49



Statistiques Ping pour 66.94.230.32:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 226ms, Maximum = 229ms, Moyenne = 227ms


End diagnosis for D7285M1J


2) XP Pro SP2 host desktop :

CDiagnosis V1.31
Start diagnosis for AGNES
Full Targets D7285M1J 192.168.0.166 AGNES 192.168.0.1 Peter 192.168.0.234
127.0.0.1

Target D7285M1J

"AGNES ping D7285M1J"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur D7285M1J [192.168.0.166] avec 32 octets de
donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view D7285M1J"

Ressources partag,es de D7285M1J

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.166

"AGNES ping 192.168.0.166"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.166 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view 192.168.0.166"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.166

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target AGNES

"AGNES ping AGNES"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur AGNES [192.168.0.1] avec 32 octets de
donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view AGNES"

Ressources partag,es de AGNES

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.1

"AGNES ping 192.168.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view 192.168.0.1"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.1

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target Peter

"AGNES ping Peter"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur Peter [192.168.0.234] avec 32 octets de
donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view Peter"

Ressources partag,es de Peter



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disque
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.234

"AGNES ping 192.168.0.234"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.234 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.234ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view 192.168.0.234"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.234



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

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C Disque
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 127.0.0.1

"AGNES ping 127.0.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 127.0.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 127.0.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 127.0.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"AGNES net view 127.0.0.1"


Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32

Target www.yahoo.com

"AGNES ping www.yahoo.com"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur www.yahoo.akadns.net [216.109.117.106] avec
32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 216.109.117.106ÿ: octets=32 temps=138 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.117.106ÿ: octets=32 temps=140 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.117.106ÿ: octets=32 temps=140 ms TTL=54

R,ponse de 216.109.117.106ÿ: octets=32 temps=140 ms TTL=54



Statistiques Ping pour 216.109.117.106:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 138ms, Maximum = 140ms, Moyenne = 139ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"AGNES ping 66.94.230.32"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 66.94.230.32 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=228 ms TTL=50

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=217 ms TTL=50

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=218 ms TTL=50

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=218 ms TTL=50



Statistiques Ping pour 66.94.230.32:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 217ms, Maximum = 228ms, Moyenne = 220ms


End diagnosis for AGNES

3) XP Home SP2 laptop

CDiagnosis V1.31
Start diagnosis for PETER
Full Targets D7285M1J 192.168.0.166 AGNES 192.168.0.1 Peter 192.168.0.234
127.0.0.1

Target D7285M1J

"PETER ping D7285M1J"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur D7285M1J.mshome.net [192.168.0.166] avec 32
octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"PETER net view D7285M1J"

Ressources partag,es de D7285M1J

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque (UNC)
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.166

"PETER ping 192.168.0.166"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.166 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.166ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.166:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"PETER net view 192.168.0.166"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.166

New Dell Peter

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents Disque
New Dell Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target AGNES

"PETER ping AGNES"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur AGNES.mshome.net [192.168.0.1] avec 32 octets
de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"PETER net view AGNES"

Ressources partag,es de AGNES

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.1

"PETER ping 192.168.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128

R,ponse de 192.168.0.1ÿ: octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Moyenne = 0ms


"PETER net view 192.168.0.1"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.1

MSHOME

Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AgnSs Disque
doc Disque
hp3500 Impr. HP Color LaserJet 3500
HP7760 Impr. hp photosmart 7700 series
HPDeskJe Impr. HP DeskJet 895Cxi
IKEA Office Disque
ImpAKT2tNG Disque
Interakt Disque
KTML Disque
MX Includes Disque
MX Kart Disque
MX Looper Suite Disque
MX Widgets Suite Disque
NeXTensio2 Disque
PDF995 Impr. PDF995
PHAkt2 Disque
QuB Disque
SharedDocs Disque
Tutorials Disque
User Manual Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target Peter

"PETER ping Peter"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur Peter [192.168.0.234] avec 32 octets de
donn,esÿ:



D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 0, perdus = 4 (perte 100%),


"PETER net view Peter"

Ressources partag,es de Peter



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disque
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 192.168.0.234

"PETER ping 192.168.0.234"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 192.168.0.234 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.

D,lai d'attente de la demande d,pass,.



Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.234:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 0, perdus = 4 (perte 100%),


"PETER net view 192.168.0.234"

Ressources partag,es de 192.168.0.234



Nom du partage Type Utilis, comme Commentaire

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C Disque
Documents and Settings Disque
Imprimante3 Impr. FinePrint 2000
Interakt Disque
SharedDocs Disque
La commande s'est termin,e correctement.


Target 127.0.0.1

"PETER ping 127.0.0.1"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 127.0.0.1 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



Impossible de joindre l'h"te de destination.

Impossible de joindre l'h"te de destination.

Impossible de joindre l'h"te de destination.

Impossible de joindre l'h"te de destination.



Statistiques Ping pour 127.0.0.1:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 0, perdus = 4 (perte 100%),


"PETER net view 127.0.0.1"


Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32

Target www.yahoo.com

"PETER ping www.yahoo.com"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur www.yahoo.akadns.net [216.109.118.68] avec 32
octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 216.109.118.68ÿ: octets=32 temps=150 ms TTL=52

R,ponse de 216.109.118.68ÿ: octets=32 temps=135 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.118.68ÿ: octets=32 temps=149 ms TTL=53

R,ponse de 216.109.118.68ÿ: octets=32 temps=142 ms TTL=52



Statistiques Ping pour 216.109.118.68:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 135ms, Maximum = 150ms, Moyenne = 144ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"PETER ping 66.94.230.32"



Envoi d'une requ^te 'ping' sur 66.94.230.32 avec 32 octets de donn,esÿ:



R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=223 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=257 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=224 ms TTL=49

R,ponse de 66.94.230.32ÿ: octets=32 temps=222 ms TTL=49



Statistiques Ping pour 66.94.230.32:

Paquetsÿ: envoy,s = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

Dur,e approximative des boucles en millisecondes :

Minimum = 222ms, Maximum = 257ms, Moyenne = 231ms


End diagnosis for PETER

Wow, some reading to do ! And a lot of it in French too although I don't
doubt you'll get the meaning of it all.

To do all this, I had to change the ICMP setings in the firewall to allow
echo request and echo reply : in and out. I hope this doesn't compromise
security !

Cheers

Peter

 

[Chuck]

Wow, some reading to do ! And a lot of it in French too although I don't
doubt you'll get the meaning of it all.

To do all this, I had to change the ICMP setings in the firewall to allow
echo request and echo reply : in and out. I hope this doesn't compromise
security !

Cheers

Peter

Peter,

Not hard to read - I've been reading these CDiag logs for a few months, and I've
memorised the output. Yours was simple. There were no problems at all except
Peter still has ip problems - it can't ping itself, by name, by ip address, or
by local loop (127.0.0.1). But it can "net view" itself. This points to a
firewall problem, or maybe an LSP / Winsock problem.

But how then can Peter "net view" itself. Better yet, how can the other two
ping and "net view" Peter with no problems?? Frequently this sort of problem
might be caused by extra protocols - some folks install IPX/SPX or NetBEUI,
neither of which is routable, and neither is subject to problems caused by
firewalls, though adding protocols just causes more problems. Your protocol
stacks, shown by browstat, are clean on all 3 computers.

Since both AGNES and D7285M1J can ping Peter with no problem, I would bet that
Peter has a problem in its outgoing IP stack.

We will solve this by patience and persistence. And you will need both.

Let's look for an LSP / Winsock problem first. This won't be easy.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259

If XP RTM or Service Pack 1:
1. Backup and delete the following registry keys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
2. Reboot.
3. Open the network connections folder, right click your network connection, and
click Properties.
4. Click Install | Protocol | Add.
5. Click "Have Disk...", type "\windows\inf" in the box, and click OK.
6. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", then click OK.
7. Reboot.

If XP SP2:
1. Start - Run - "cmd".
2. Type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window.

Give LSP-Fix <http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm>, WinsockFix
<http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257>, or WinsockXPFix
<http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html> a shot.

If no help yet, reset TCP/IP.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357

Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command
window.

The problem with repairing LSP / Winsock is that it will frequently reset and
remove all non-Microsoft components. You may end up re installing the firewall
software. Maybe you should un install it first. Fortunately, Peter is behind
Agnes (Agnes is running ICF / ICS IIRC, and effectively Agnes is a software
based NAT router. So Peter is safe.

 

[Pete Kennedy]

Peter,

Not hard to read - I've been reading these CDiag logs for a few months, and I've
memorised the output. Yours was simple. There were no problems at all except
Peter still has ip problems - it can't ping itself, by name, by ip address, or
by local loop (127.0.0.1). But it can "net view" itself. This points to a
firewall problem, or maybe an LSP / Winsock problem.

But how then can Peter "net view" itself. Better yet, how can the other two
ping and "net view" Peter with no problems?? Frequently this sort of problem
might be caused by extra protocols - some folks install IPX/SPX or NetBEUI,
neither of which is routable, and neither is subject to problems caused by
firewalls, though adding protocols just causes more problems. Your protocol
stacks, shown by browstat, are clean on all 3 computers.

Since both AGNES and D7285M1J can ping Peter with no problem, I would bet that
Peter has a problem in its outgoing IP stack.

We will solve this by patience and persistence. And you will need both.

Let's look for an LSP / Winsock problem first. This won't be easy.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259

If XP RTM or Service Pack 1:
1. Backup and delete the following registry keys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
2. Reboot.
3. Open the network connections folder, right click your network connection, and
click Properties.
4. Click Install | Protocol | Add.
5. Click "Have Disk...", type "\windows\inf" in the box, and click OK.
6. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", then click OK.
7. Reboot.

If XP SP2:
1. Start - Run - "cmd".
2. Type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window.

Give LSP-Fix <http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm>, WinsockFix
<http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257>, or WinsockXPFix
<http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html> a shot.

If no help yet, reset TCP/IP.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357

Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command
window.

The problem with repairing LSP / Winsock is that it will frequently reset and
remove all non-Microsoft components. You may end up re installing the firewall
software. Maybe you should un install it first. Fortunately, Peter is behind
Agnes (Agnes is running ICF / ICS IIRC, and effectively Agnes is a software
based NAT router. So Peter is safe.

Thanks Chuck,

I did this late last night and I was a bit bog-eyed. "Peter", which is the
XP Home SP2 laptop has no problems seeing the other two computers - it can
see and browse both. The problem is with the XP Pro SP2 host "Agnes" which
can see the old "Peter" laptop but cannot see the new "D7285M1J New Dell"
laptop in my network places. Perhaps when I ran cdiag on the old laptop last
night, I incorrecly "released" the ICMP settings - I'll have a look this
evening.

I can uninstal the firewall no problem on the old laptop - all I have to is
save the config. file. But do you think the proble is really with the old
laptop ?

Cheers

Peter

 

[Pete Kennedy]

to bet reset

Thanks Chuck,

I did this late last night and I was a bit bog-eyed. "Peter", which is the
XP Home SP2 laptop has no problems seeing the other two computers - it can
see and browse both. The problem is with the XP Pro SP2 host "Agnes" which
can see the old "Peter" laptop but cannot see the new "D7285M1J New Dell"
laptop in my network places. Perhaps when I ran cdiag on the old laptop last
night, I incorrecly "released" the ICMP settings - I'll have a look this
evening.

I can uninstal the firewall no problem on the old laptop - all I have to is
save the config. file. But do you think the proble is really with the old
laptop ?

Cheers

Peter

oh, and another thing - I notice that the various fxes you suggest are about
internet connectivity. But I don't have a problem connecting the the 'net -
my problem is solely with the LAN. Could they also fix this ? Do I run the
fixes on each computer or just on the old laptop ?

Cheers

Pete

 

[Pete Kennedy]

caused

oh, and another thing - I notice that the various fxes you suggest are about
internet connectivity. But I don't have a problem connecting the the 'net -
my problem is solely with the LAN. Could they also fix this ? Do I run the
fixes on each computer or just on the old laptop ?

Cheers

Pete

Hmm, thinking again, I recall that when I initially installed the network on
the new laptop last week, I had a couple of .dll error messages onscreen
before rebooting.. Can't remember what they were though...

Cheers

Pete

 

[Chuck]

Hmm, thinking again, I recall that when I initially installed the network on
the new laptop last week, I had a couple of .dll error messages onscreen
before rebooting.. Can't remember what they were though...

Cheers

Pete

Pete,

The "new laptop" being Peter? That's where the tests point as the first problem
to be solved. By "installing the network" do you mean the network setup wizard?
Try running it again, and see exactly what error you're getting. Then we'll dig
deeper.

 

[Pete Kennedy]

Pete,

The "new laptop" being Peter? That's where the tests point as the first problem
to be solved. By "installing the network" do you mean the network setup wizard?
Try running it again, and see exactly what error you're getting. Then we'll dig
deeper.

Chuck,

No, the new Dell laptop is "D7285M1J", also known as "New Dell". That was
the first test and I see there weren't any problems. The last test was on
"Peter" which is my old XP Home laptop, hence the name. This laptop can see
the other computers in "My Network Places" and browse their files. The new
Dell laptop can as well. Its the XP Pro SP2 desktop "Agnes", which can't see
the new Dell in "My Network Places". I think the Ping problem on the old
laptop could have been caused by me not fully allowing echo request in/out
and allow indentification in/out on the ICMP settings in the firewall. I'll
check tonight.

By repeatedly running the network wizard, could I not be causing other
problems?

Cheers

Peter

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

No, the new Dell laptop is "D7285M1J", also known as "New Dell". That was
the first test and I see there weren't any problems. The last test was on
"Peter" which is my old XP Home laptop, hence the name. This laptop can see
the other computers in "My Network Places" and browse their files. The new
Dell laptop can as well. Its the XP Pro SP2 desktop "Agnes", which can't see
the new Dell in "My Network Places". I think the Ping problem on the old
laptop could have been caused by me not fully allowing echo request in/out
and allow indentification in/out on the ICMP settings in the firewall. I'll
check tonight.

By repeatedly running the network wizard, could I not be causing other
problems?

Cheers

Peter

Pete,

What firewall are you talking about when you "had to change the ICMP settings in
the firewall to allow echo request and echo reply : in and out"? Windows
Firewall, by definition, allows ICMP when you enable the File and Printer
Sharing exception.

Then back to "the XP Pro SP2 host "Agnes" which can see the old "Peter" laptop
but cannot see the new "D7285M1J New Dell" laptop in my network places". If
restrictanonymous on D7285M1J is set properly, this is probably caused by a
firewall, or whatever was causing the "couple of .dll error messages" when
running network setup. Anyway, if the network on D7285M1J is a problem, you'll
have to rerun the wizard. And note what the errors are.

WRT the firewall, you have a wired LAN, so everything on the LAN (ie D7285M1J
and Peter) is protected by Agnes, which is running a NAT router (ICS). So
except for not being protected from Agnes and Peter, if you un install the
firewall on D7285M1J, it's still safe for the time being.

 

[Pete]

Pete,

What firewall are you talking about when you "had to change the ICMP
settings in
the firewall to allow echo request and echo reply : in and out"? Windows
Firewall, by definition, allows ICMP when you enable the File and Printer
Sharing exception.

Then back to "the XP Pro SP2 host "Agnes" which can see the old "Peter"
laptop
but cannot see the new "D7285M1J New Dell" laptop in my network places".
If
restrictanonymous on D7285M1J is set properly, this is probably caused by
a
firewall, or whatever was causing the "couple of .dll error messages" when
running network setup. Anyway, if the network on D7285M1J is a problem,
you'll
have to rerun the wizard. And note what the errors are.

WRT the firewall, you have a wired LAN, so everything on the LAN (ie
D7285M1J
and Peter) is protected by Agnes, which is running a NAT router (ICS). So
except for not being protected from Agnes and Peter, if you un install the
firewall on D7285M1J, it's still safe for the time being.

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Hi Chuck,

Here I am again ! I'm using Outpost Agnitum Pro firewall. I've stopped the
firewall on my machine and have re-run the wizard and have re-enabled file
and printer sharing. No joy. 1) The new laptop can still see all the my
network places and can happily browse everyone's documents 2) The XP Pro
desktop, and host (Agnes) can see only the new Dell in the workgroup but can
see and browse the old laptop (Peter) in my network places and 3) the old
laptop can see and browse everyone. I've just ran cdiag.cmd on the old
laptop and all pings work. No error messages. There were no errors when I
ran the network wizard. The browser service is still disabled on the new
laptop. Should I enable it. ? Should I run the fixes you suggested in your
earlier posts ?

The answer is probably staring me in the face. What to do, a system restore
and start from scratch ?

Cheers

Pete

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck,

Here I am again ! I'm using Outpost Agnitum Pro firewall. I've stopped the
firewall on my machine and have re-run the wizard and have re-enabled file
and printer sharing. No joy. 1) The new laptop can still see all the my
network places and can happily browse everyone's documents 2) The XP Pro
desktop, and host (Agnes) can see only the new Dell in the workgroup but can
see and browse the old laptop (Peter) in my network places and 3) the old
laptop can see and browse everyone. I've just ran cdiag.cmd on the old
laptop and all pings work. No error messages. There were no errors when I
ran the network wizard. The browser service is still disabled on the new
laptop. Should I enable it. ? Should I run the fixes you suggested in your
earlier posts ?

The answer is probably staring me in the face. What to do, a system restore
and start from scratch ?

Cheers

Pete

Pete,

What happens if you create a shortcut in MNP to "\\D7285M1J\New Dell"?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308416/