HIBERNATING/CMOS

[Guest]

HI, ONGOING PROBLEM WITH HIBERNATION STANDBY. ROCK AND DB OFFERED USEFUL
SUGGESTIONS.

WHEN I PULL THE AC POWER AND THE BATTERY (RESET CMOS) THE HIBERNATION
FUNCTION APPEARS TO WORK.

CAN I RESET THE CMOS/BIOS TO DEFAULT WITHOUT PULLING THE BATTERY? THIS SEEMS
TO BE THE ONLY STEP THAT WORKS. ANY LINKS FOR MORE DETAILED INFO OR ADVICE
WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

I HAVE ELIMINATED AS MANY BACKGROUND PROGRAMS AS I CAN.

THE PROBLEM WAS AT :21 AND :51 PAST THE HOUR THE PC WOULD BE AWAKENED FROM
SLEEP AND 5 MINUTES LATER RETURN TO SLEEP.

I HAVE BYPASSED THE POWER MANAEGEMENT WINDOW AND SETTING THE HIBERNATING
MODE MANUALLY. IT IS WORKING (3 HOURS) STILL EVALUATING TO SEE IF IT WORKS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Please do not start a new thread on an existing discussion
topic, and fix your CapsLock key. It's stuck.

 

[Rock]

HI, ONGOING PROBLEM WITH HIBERNATION STANDBY. ROCK AND DB OFFERED USEFUL
SUGGESTIONS.

WHEN I PULL THE AC POWER AND THE BATTERY (RESET CMOS) THE HIBERNATION
FUNCTION APPEARS TO WORK.

CAN I RESET THE CMOS/BIOS TO DEFAULT WITHOUT PULLING THE BATTERY? THIS
SEEMS
TO BE THE ONLY STEP THAT WORKS. ANY LINKS FOR MORE DETAILED INFO OR ADVICE
WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

I HAVE ELIMINATED AS MANY BACKGROUND PROGRAMS AS I CAN.

THE PROBLEM WAS AT :21 AND :51 PAST THE HOUR THE PC WOULD BE AWAKENED FROM
SLEEP AND 5 MINUTES LATER RETURN TO SLEEP.

I HAVE BYPASSED THE POWER MANAEGEMENT WINDOW AND SETTING THE HIBERNATING
MODE MANUALLY. IT IS WORKING (3 HOURS) STILL EVALUATING TO SEE IF IT
WORKS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Ouch, your post is way to hard to read in all caps. I caught the first
sentence though. I suggest you post to the original thread.

 

[Rock]

HI, ONGOING PROBLEM WITH HIBERNATION STANDBY. ROCK AND DB OFFERED USEFUL
SUGGESTIONS.

WHEN I PULL THE AC POWER AND THE BATTERY (RESET CMOS) THE HIBERNATION
FUNCTION APPEARS TO WORK.

CAN I RESET THE CMOS/BIOS TO DEFAULT WITHOUT PULLING THE BATTERY? THIS
SEEMS
TO BE THE ONLY STEP THAT WORKS. ANY LINKS FOR MORE DETAILED INFO OR ADVICE
WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

I HAVE ELIMINATED AS MANY BACKGROUND PROGRAMS AS I CAN.

THE PROBLEM WAS AT :21 AND :51 PAST THE HOUR THE PC WOULD BE AWAKENED FROM
SLEEP AND 5 MINUTES LATER RETURN TO SLEEP.

I HAVE BYPASSED THE POWER MANAEGEMENT WINDOW AND SETTING THE HIBERNATING
MODE MANUALLY. IT IS WORKING (3 HOURS) STILL EVALUATING TO SEE IF IT
WORKS.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Additional to find your original post, search for it using Google Groups
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[Guest]

Thanks Rock, Sorry about the caps. I will repost. You read my mind. My next
question was how do I find the original thread.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for being polite. My caps key was not stuck. I'll fix it and repost in
original thread.

 

[Guest]

Hi Rock,

I have posted in the original thread using th reply function. It was
Hibernate/standby problem posted on 1/24/07. This is a copy of the new
question without caps. Thanks for your guidance.

Hi, still having ongoing problems with hibernation/standby. Rock and DB
offered useful suggestions.

To fix this I have disconnected any wire to the PC. Opened the unit pulled
the battery…waited 30 minutes. Reinstalled battery and booted up. This
appears to work. The first time worked for 36 hours. This reset has been
working for 3 hours.
My question is until I find what is causing the problem (The problem is at
:21 and :51 past the hour the PC is awakened by some command. 5 minutes later
the PC returns to the sleep state and the cycle repeats) is there a command
to rest the CMOS or bios in which I do not have to unseat the battery and
then reseat? Any advice or links would be appreciated.

Other steps I have taken
1. Eliminate as many background programs as I can.
2. Defrag, check disk, delete cookies, temp files and remove any unwanted
programs.
3. I have bypassed the power management window and have reset the Microsoft
keyboard sleep button to manually start hibernate. As I said this has been
working for 4 hours (fingers crossed).

 

[Guest]

Hi Rock, Could you please forward this to db. I do not know how. Thank you!
--
Hi DB,

I want to thank you for your assistance in solving my Hibernation problem
and giving so generously of your time. I have reviewed the problem and
associated fix it steps and have came up with the following analysis. I may
not be correct, but I am submitting it to you for review and if needed
corrections. Perhaps it can help someone else in the future. I am also trying
System Mechanic 7. All I can say is WOW!

Problem review: System set to hibernate. System did go into sleep state. At
:21 and :51 past the hour the system would awaken. 5 minutes later the system
would return to the sleep state and the cycle would repeat.

Fix it steps that are working:

1. Reboot then hit the appropriate F key to enter the bios settings. Remove
battery and all connections. Reinstall battery. Reboot and then hit the
appropriate F key to enter the bios settings. Making sure to reset the clock
(otherwise your programs will tell you have not had any updates in 1181 days,
etc). In the boot tab disable any LAN wake up commands. Save the settings and
continue boot up.
2. Check your internet connections looking in the LAN properties and
disabling any wake up commands unless you think you will need this.
3. In the power settings set the monitor to turn off at whatever you want.
Do not enable turn off hard disks. Check the hibernation tab and make sure
the hibernation option is checked. Apply changes.
4. For my preferences I set the sleep key on my keyboard to the hibernating
function. I prefer manual setting at this time. I may set the hibernating
function to a timed automatic setting in the future.
5. Note: the first time I did this the function it worked for 30 hours. The
reason this happened was a friend of mine was using the computer, downloading
graphics, and it froze up. They were not able to exit the program or restart.
Instead they cut the power and started the PC up again. I believe this action
caused the system to restore to a previous point before the fix it options
thus causing the hibernation problem to start again. I am not a software
engineer and this is only calculated guessing on my part.

The fix is still working! Thanks for your help and I hope this info helps
you help others.

Barbara ann



Redhead

 

[John Butler]

Hi BarbaraAnn

In my experience if you must use Windows Hibernate - rather prone to
troubles - make sure that all wake-ups in the bios are turned off.
What bios do you have? MyAward bios (very recent in Asus crosshair dual
mother board) has a shutdown\restart option which does the same thing as
hibernate in Windows but without the software problems. What shut
down\restart options do you have in your bios?
John

 

[Rock]

I don't have contact with him. If he comes in here he'll probably see it.
I'm glad you got the problem resolved.

 

[Guest]

Hi John,

I love System Mechanic. Great suggestion! The only other wake up in bios I
saw was a power failure. It is set to stay off. I do not at this time have
back up power. However, I will check the bios in greater detail to make
sure. Thanks for everything.

One other question if you please. I am considering doubling my memory from
512mb to 1024mb. Will I notice a difference or should I add a gig? My max
memeory capacity is 2gb on a intel 4 3ghz motherboard.

Barbara ann

 

[Rock]

Hi John,

I love System Mechanic. Great suggestion! The only other wake up in bios I
saw was a power failure. It is set to stay off. I do not at this time have
back up power. However, I will check the bios in greater detail to make
sure. Thanks for everything.

One other question if you please. I am considering doubling my memory from
512mb to 1024mb. Will I notice a difference or should I add a gig? My max
memeory capacity is 2gb on a intel 4 3ghz motherboard.

I'm not sure what all utilities come with System Mechanic but be leery of
running a registry cleaner. Unless you are knowledgeable about the
registry, and just use the cleaner to advise you on what to delete, and you
know the possible repercussions from deleting a particular item from the
registry, don't use it, and certainly not in any automatic mode. Registry
cleaners cause more problems than they fix, sometimes the problems don't
show up right away either.

As to adding more memory, it depends on what applications you run whether
more will make a difference. If the page file is being used heavily now,
then more memory will help. If not then it's wasted. See this article by
the late Alex Nichol, MVP on Virtual Memory in XP and setting the page file.
In it is a link to a utility by MVP Bill James (and a version of that from
MVP Doug Knox), which will allow you to monitor page file usage. Run that
to get an idea of how much the page file is used, and then decide if more
memory is needed.

If you are considering moving to Vista, then I would suggest increasing
memory to 1GB or more.

Virtual Memory in Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

 

[John Butler]

Barbara ann
Setting the power failure wake-up to off is best for most people, it means
that if there is apower failure the PC does not autorestart and you know
what has happened.

With Windows XP (and eventually Vista) 2 GB RAM would be apporpriate for
your System.

Syystem Mechanic is very powerful so make sure you enable its backup
features before running it. I have had severe problems with its junk file
cleaner and have disabled that.

A simpler Registry Cleaner that you can safely use daily is JUV power Tools.
It was a free amateur product but last year was bought by Mace Software.
http://www.macecraft.com/

John

Hi John,

I love System Mechanic. Great suggestion! The only other wake up in bios I
saw was a power failure. It is set to stay off. I do not at this time have
back up power. However, I will check the bios in greater detail to make
sure. Thanks for everything.

One other question if you please. I am considering doubling my memory from
512mb to 1024mb. Will I notice a difference or should I add a gig? My max
memeory capacity is 2gb on a intel 4 3ghz motherboard.

Barbara ann

 

[Rock]

Barbara ann
Setting the power failure wake-up to off is best for most people, it means
that if there is apower failure the PC does not autorestart and you know
what has happened.

With Windows XP (and eventually Vista) 2 GB RAM would be apporpriate for
your System.

Syystem Mechanic is very powerful so make sure you enable its backup
features before running it. I have had severe problems with its junk file
cleaner and have disabled that.

A simpler Registry Cleaner that you can safely use daily is JUV power
Tools. It was a free amateur product but last year was bought by Mace
Software.
http://www.macecraft.com/

John

What exactly constitutes a safe registry cleaner? The only safe one is one
that is not used. On the issue of RAM if the OP is going to stay with XP,
there is almost no reason to believe the system would benefit by 2GB of it.
The way to tell is by monitoring the page file use, as I indicated in my
last post. With Vista, yes it likes more memory. It runs fine on 1GB, so
again it depends on what the user does with the system to decide if 2GB is
worth the cost. It's not a one size fits all deal.

 

[George]

I don't have contact with him. If he comes in here he'll probably see it.
I'm glad you got the problem resolved.

Damn Rock, I was hoping to have to scroll through 50 pages of data to read
your repsonse You dissapoint me...

George