HELP - salvage operation

G

Guest

Hi

I have recently hit by a virus possibly.
The result is that I cannot get into Windows xp. The
computer shuts out and reboots just before xp loads.

I need to reinstall xp from my revcovery cd but this will
wipe off 2 years of work
[I know - I should have made a back up :-( I did do but
only for some of my work].

Is it possible to back up my removable laptop hard disc to
my desktop which runs on Win 98?

I have tried by using a convertor but the desktop froze
when the laptop drive was connected.

Any idea why?

PLEASE HELP!!
 
J

jmatt

The way I would get the info , would be to take the HD out of the PC .
Slave it to another HD/comp ( no need to bolt it in , just cable it
leave it outside the case ) & copy your stuff onto the other HD .
You may have a choice of jumper settings on the master HD , such a
master with slave .

Now you can get your info


-
jmat
 
M

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

That might be a hardware issue between your the removable laptop hard drive
and the desktop and you might want to try the hardware board for help with
that issue.
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp

That said, if the file system used for XP on the laptop was NTFS as opposed
to FAT32, what you are trying to do will be useless as Windows 98 cannot
read NTFS. This also may be the reason why the desktop locks up as the
laptop's hard drive may be unrecognizable.

A possible work around would be to install XP to a separate partition on the
laptop and copy your files from the old setup to the new but such a move
with only recovery CDs is problematic. The recovery CDs are going to look
for the C drive, you'd have to use third party software such as Partition
Magic to hide that partition and assuming you could get the recovery CDs to
work in this setup, you'd later have to unhide the other partition, try to
make it a different drive letter as you don't want the system trying to boot
from it and then copy the files...it's going to be a mess.

Assuming you could work it out, the files will then deny you access because
of XP's security so you would have to take ownership of the files as
follows:
Note, file ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights. How
you resolve it depends upon which version of XP you are running.



XP-Home



Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple File
Sharing" at system level.

However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode. Reboot, and start
hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for the administrator's
password. This is not your administrator account, rather it is the
machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a
password during setup.

If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press
enter.

Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll to
the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" deselect it
and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let you make a change,
move on to the next step.

Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the Security
tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was logged
on when you were refused permission to access the files. Click apply and
ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the name of
the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership for everything in
the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection:
"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well.

Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files when
you log back on as that user.



XP-Pro



If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to
administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select Folder
Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File Sharing" is not
selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.



If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a user,
right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security tab, click
Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, you
should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects,"
place a check in the box and click apply and ok.

The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files in the
folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an admin account again,
right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and be
sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click add and type the
user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the necessary
permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click apply
and ok.

That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that folder even
in a limited account.




--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Hi

I have recently hit by a virus possibly.
The result is that I cannot get into Windows xp. The
computer shuts out and reboots just before xp loads.

I need to reinstall xp from my revcovery cd but this will
wipe off 2 years of work
[I know - I should have made a back up :-( I did do but
only for some of my work].

Is it possible to back up my removable laptop hard disc to
my desktop which runs on Win 98?

I have tried by using a convertor but the desktop froze
when the laptop drive was connected.

Any idea why?

PLEASE HELP!!
 
G

Guest

Hi Michael

Thanks for your reply. You said

'That said, if the file system used for XP on the laptop
was NTFS as opposed to FAT32, what you are trying to do
will be useless as Windows 98 cannot read NTFS. This also
may be the reason why the desktop locks up as the
laptop's hard drive may be unrecognizable.'

This sounds plausible to me. The solution sounds more
diffcult and I doubt I would be able to pull it off
without help.

What I might do is try to loan a desktop system with xp
preloaded or to use a friends to see if it will read the
laptop hard disc.

MANY THANKS for your time!
 
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

You're welcome.

That's a good idea, just remember what I said about file ownership as you
may have to take ownership of those files in order to access them even on
his system and once you get them copied back to your own setup, you will
likely need to do it again.
 

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