Hard Drive to Hard Drive Transfer...

H

hidekelip

Hello All...

I was wondering, how can you transfer ALL of your data from one hard drive
(which is installed on you pc, and is the master drive) to a new, bigger,
drive? The thing is that i wish to buy a bigger hard drive for my pc, but i
want to just, i dont know, transfer all of the data without losing anything,
so that all my programs, and shortcuts, etc. wont be jacked up......... is
there any type of software/hardware i need...?
 
A

Andrew E.

Actually thats fairly easy to do in xp.Simply set the new hd as slave to
current
C: on the same IDE cable.Once in xp,format the new hd (run,type:diskmgmt.msc)
perform a standard format,once thru,exit msc,go to run,type:
XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r In the DOS window,agree to all.D: being the new
hd,but if asigned diffrent letter,then use that letter instead.Once
completed,old
C: is now on new hd & is bootable,reset the IDE configuration & jumper pins,
place old C: wherever,you might format & use for storage & place the
page-file
 
J

Jerry

Harddrive manufacturers provide software with the drives that will make the
process of setting up the drive and copying everything very easy. You should
get a CD with the drive that has a diagnostic program, setup, transfer, etc
program on it. If not, go to the appropriate web site and download the
latest.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

In addition to the other comments, very good programs like Acronis True
Image exist to do just what you want to do and can transfer a perfect copy
that will be bootable in place of the old drive.
 
A

Anteaus

Yes, the important point here is that you cannot transfer the RUNNING
operating system this way. This must be done by booting from an alternative
OS. Options are DOS utilities such as Acronis (often the simplest method) or
WinPE, BartPE, Linux bootable CDs.. or hooking both disks to to another WinXP
machine.


--> In addition to the other comments, very good programs like Acronis True
 
S

SonomaAirporter

That's not entirely correct. Using CasparXP running under WindowsXP, you
canclone your master drive to a slave of same or larger size. I do this
several times a week as part of my backup regimen. Check it out at
http://www.fssdev.com/.
 
D

db ´¯`·.. >

that's interesting and odd.

it seems to me that if you
cloned the system from
a smaller disk and restored
the clone to another disk
different in size, windows
should not be functional
for a couple of reasons.

at the very least, the windows
cd would be required to
reconfigure the o.s. to the
new hardware.

further, the methodology
you suggest as being successful
is also a method of pirating,
unless it was one of those
genuine multi licensed version.
 
A

Anna

db ´¯`·.. > said:
that's interesting and odd.

it seems to me that if you cloned the system from
a smaller disk and restored the clone to another disk
different in size, windows should not be functional
for a couple of reasons.

at the very least, the windows cd would be required to
reconfigure the o.s. to the new hardware.

further, the methodology you suggest as being successful
is also a method of pirating, unless it was one of those
genuine multi licensed version.


db:
"Sonoma..." is correct. There's absolutely no problem with using a
disk-to-disk cloning program such as Acronis True Image or the Casper
programs (as well as many other disk cloning programs) where the "source"
and "destination" drives are of different capacity. All that matters is that
the recipient of the clone, i.e., the "destination" HDD be of sufficient
capacity to receive the contents of the "source" HDD, i.e., the drive being
cloned.

There is no "pirating" inherently involved in disk-to-disk cloning.
Obviously its most common purposes are to establish & maintain a
comprehensive backup program as well as transferring the contents of one HDD
to another HDD. It has nothing to do with "pirating" merely because of that.

Note to "Sonoma...". We have never been thrilled with the Casper XP program
for a variety of reasons. However, we have found their Casper 4 program a
much superior disk-cloning program. As you probably know there's a trial
version available at the site you've indicated. I suggest you give it a try.
It's "incremental clone" feature is extroardinary. I'm sure you'll be taken
with it.
Anna
 
D

db ´¯`·.. >

so,

what would prevent
persons from de-cloning
the o.s. onto many hd's
and selling them off to
the public on the cheap?
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hello All...

I was wondering, how can you transfer ALL of your data from one hard drive
(which is installed on you pc, and is the master drive) to a new, bigger,
drive? The thing is that i wish to buy a bigger hard drive for my pc, but i
want to just, i dont know, transfer all of the data without losing anything,
so that all my programs, and shortcuts, etc. wont be jacked up......... is
there any type of software/hardware i need...?



You need disk cloning software to do this. Usually a new drive comes
with software to do this, or if yours doesn't, you can usually
download it from the manufacturer's site.

If you want to buy a product like this (very useful for backups), I
recommend the excellent Acronis True Image.

Beware the incorrect advice to do this using Diskcopy.
 
P

Patrick Keenan

hidekelip said:
Hello All...

I was wondering, how can you transfer ALL of your data from one hard drive
(which is installed on you pc, and is the master drive) to a new, bigger,
drive? The thing is that i wish to buy a bigger hard drive for my pc, but
i
want to just, i dont know, transfer all of the data without losing
anything,
so that all my programs, and shortcuts, etc. wont be jacked up......... is
there any type of software/hardware i need...?

It's easy to do with disk cloning software, and you can get the Acronis True
Image demo versions free; most drive manufacturers produce this kind of
thing, though if you buy a bare drive you have to download it, and it's
pretty much as big as TrueImage.

You can not, by the way, perform this task with xcopy. It will not produce
a bootable hard disk.

HTH
-pk
 
B

Bill in Co.

You need disk cloning software to do this. Usually a new drive comes
with software to do this, or if yours doesn't, you can usually
download it from the manufacturer's site.

If you want to buy a product like this (very useful for backups), I
recommend the excellent Acronis True Image.

or perhaps Casper? What's your take on the comparison (if you care to
share), Ken? (I haven't used Casper, but Anna is always plugging it :)
 
P

PD43

Bill in Co. said:
or perhaps Casper? What's your take on the comparison (if you care to
share), Ken? (I haven't used Casper, but Anna is always plugging it :)

Anna is the ONLY one who has promoted this product here. Many others,
including myself, are happy and well satisfied with Acronis.

Google this group for both.

You will see that Acronis comes out on top every time.
 
A

Anna

Bill in Co. said:
or perhaps Casper? What's your take on the comparison (if you care to
share), Ken? (I haven't used Casper, but Anna is always plugging it
:)


Bill:
Since we've had a considerable "exchange" of posts re disk-cloning &
disk-imaging software and you're obviously aware of my penchant for the
Casper 4 program as compared with other disk-cloning programs (such as the
Acronis True Image one) based on the detailed reasons I've given, may I
respectfully suggest that you simply download and install the 30-day trial
version of that program available at
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/ and just try it out?

Aside from the "Trial Limitations" mentioned on that site, you should be
able to judge whether that program might even better serve your needs than
the ATI program as a routine comprehensive backup program, especially
considering its "SmartClone" technology which, as you know, I've been
"plugging" all along.
Anna
 
B

Bill in Co.

Anna said:
Bill:
Since we've had a considerable "exchange" of posts re disk-cloning &
disk-imaging software and you're obviously aware of my penchant for the
Casper 4 program as compared with other disk-cloning programs (such as the
Acronis True Image one) based on the detailed reasons I've given, may I
respectfully suggest that you simply download and install the 30-day trial
version of that program available at
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/ and just try it out?

Aside from the "Trial Limitations" mentioned on that site, you should be
able to judge whether that program might even better serve your needs
than
the ATI program as a routine comprehensive backup program, especially
considering its "SmartClone" technology which, as you know, I've been
"plugging" all along.
Anna

I'll take a look at it, Anna. Thanks.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

or perhaps Casper? What's your take on the comparison (if you care to
share), Ken? (I haven't used Casper, but Anna is always plugging it :)


I would share if I had an opinion, but I don't. I've never used
Caspar, and don't know anything about it.
 
A

Anna

PD43 said:
Anna is the ONLY one who has promoted this product here. Many others,
including myself, are happy and well satisfied with Acronis.

Google this group for both.

You will see that Acronis comes out on top every time.


I really hate to engage in this sort of fatuous nonsense but I won't let
this pass without a comment...

I have been "promoting" the Casper 4 disk-cloning program because I believe
it to be a superior disk-cloning program for the reasons I've detailed in a
number of my posts re this subject.

I have consistently stated that the Acronis True Image program is, by &
large a fine program and may be suitable for many users particularly because
of its disk-imaging capability (which is absent from the Casper 4 program.).
But as a disk-cloning program, I believe Casper 4 is a superior program
hands-down.

But after all is said & done, the bottom line is this...

Try it. Once more - try it. Don't rely on my recommendation or any one
else's. Try it.

A 30-day trial version of the Casper 4 program (somewhat crippled) is
available at...
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/

So try it. Capiche?
Anna
 
B

Bill in Co.

Anna said:
I really hate to engage in this sort of fatuous nonsense but I won't let
this pass without a comment...

I have been "promoting" the Casper 4 disk-cloning program because I
believe
it to be a superior disk-cloning program for the reasons I've detailed in
a
number of my posts re this subject.

I have consistently stated that the Acronis True Image program is, by &
large a fine program and may be suitable for many users particularly
because
of its disk-imaging capability (which is absent from the Casper 4
program.).
But as a disk-cloning program, I believe Casper 4 is a superior program
hands-down.

But after all is said & done, the bottom line is this...

Try it. Once more - try it. Don't rely on my recommendation or any one
else's. Try it.

A 30-day trial version of the Casper 4 program (somewhat crippled) is
available at...
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/trial/

So try it. Capiche?
Anna

No, he won't, because, for one thing, undoubtedly this was too long of a
response for his limited attention span. But, C'est La Vie.
 
P

PA20Pilot

Hi,

........what would prevent persons from de-cloning the o.s. onto many
hd's and selling them off to the public on the cheap?

Nothing. On second thought, prison comes to mind.

Most every hard drive maker offers disk cloning programs for free to
help in transfering your old drives contents to your new.

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