Hard drive 180GB but only shows 137GB

G

Guest

I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive to my XP system but I need to enable the system to recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads at 137GB (article 303013

I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as described at URL: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];303013 .

So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB limit. Just for fun, I went into Regedit to track down HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters\ so I could maybe change the EnableBigLba value to 1 as described on the article page. I couldn't do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing doesn't exist in the first place

The only other instructions are for an "unattended installation with the Microsoft System Preparation tool." Not only do I have no idea what that is, but I don't believe it applies to me anyhow

The instructions stop there and give no further clue as to how to enable the system to see the entire drive

Any help out there would be deeply appreciated. Thanks!
 
J

Jerry

You need to turn the FAT48 or 48LBA support. Don't ask me where it is.

bjdzyak said:
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive to my XP system
but I need to enable the system to recognize the 180 GB. Currently the
capacity only reads at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB limit. Just for fun, I
went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters\ so I
could maybe change the EnableBigLba value to 1 as described on the article
page. I couldn't do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing doesn't exist in the
first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended installation with the
Microsoft System Preparation tool." Not only do I have no idea what that
is, but I don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as to how to enable
the system to see the entire drive.
 
G

Guest

-----Original Message-----
I had to use Partition Magic to fix this problem.

-Kent


.

So what you're saying is that somehow I have to create 2
partitions on the 180GB drive so that neither exceeds the
137GB limit?

The Microsoft article implies that all that has to be
done is to "reset" the registry to accept the larger
drive and somehow POOF! it would happen. I feel like I
missed a memo somewhere.
 
D

DL

The reg entry 'EnableBigLba' is only applicable to pre WinXP SP1, according
to the KB article,
Though it then shows the unattended installation as adding the reg.key if it
is missing. Thus there would appear to be a discrepancy in the KB article
Does yr bios see the disk as 180gb? if not you need to update yr bios
Have you examined the disk in Management Consol?
Is yr WinXP updated?
David

Jerry said:
You need to turn the FAT48 or 48LBA support. Don't ask me where it is.

bjdzyak said:
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive to my XP system
but I need to enable the system to recognize the 180 GB. Currently the
capacity only reads at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB limit. Just for fun,
I
went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters\ so I
could maybe change the EnableBigLba value to 1 as described on the article
page. I couldn't do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing doesn't exist in the
first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended installation with the
Microsoft System Preparation tool." Not only do I have no idea what that
is, but I don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as to how to enable
the system to see the entire drive.
Any help out there would be deeply appreciated. Thanks!
 
K

KN

Install the SP1 to bipass the 137GB barrier. My 160GB
drive was in the same situation before I install SP1.

KN

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive
to my XP system but I need to enable the system to
recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads
at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as
described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;
[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB
limit. Just for fun, I went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi
\Parameters\ so I could maybe change the EnableBigLba
value to 1 as described on the article page. I couldn't
do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing
doesn't exist in the first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended
installation with the Microsoft System Preparation
tool." Not only do I have no idea what that is, but I
don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as
to how to enable the system to see the entire drive.
 
G

Guest

Thank you for that, but I am completely up to date on
every update possible. XP Home Edition SP1 and my
ATAPI.sys is the correct version. There be something I
haven't updated, but the Microsoft articles don't
indicate anything else.

Are you saying that as soon as you installed SP1 the
problem just went away? If that's the case, then I
should be seeing my full drive capacity at this
point...but I'm not.

I'm at a loss.

-----Original Message-----

Install the SP1 to bipass the 137GB barrier. My 160GB
drive was in the same situation before I install SP1.

KN

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive
to my XP system but I need to enable the system to
recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads
at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as
described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;
[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB
limit. Just for fun, I went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atap i
\Parameters\ so I could maybe change the EnableBigLba
value to 1 as described on the article page. I couldn't
do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing
doesn't exist in the first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended
installation with the Microsoft System Preparation
tool." Not only do I have no idea what that is, but I
don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as
to how to enable the system to see the entire drive.
Any help out there would be deeply appreciated. Thanks!
.
.
 
G

Guest

-----Original Message-----

Does yr bios see the disk as 180gb? if not you need to update yr bios
Have you examined the disk in Management Consol?
Is yr WinXP updated?
David

David,

I'm checking the BIOS to see if it sees 180GB as soon as
I finish this reply.

What is the "Management Console"?

WinXP is updated as much as I can possibly make it as far
as I know.
 
D

DL

From help, Computer Management, manage disks - this will allow you to
see/identify/format etc disks
I'm not sure of precise sintax since I'm not on my WinXP sys at the moment,
but Help will get you there.
If you formated hd, prior to enabling largelba, or updating bios if req, you
will iether have to reformat or create a new partition to recover slack
David

Thank you for that, but I am completely up to date on
every update possible. XP Home Edition SP1 and my
ATAPI.sys is the correct version. There be something I
haven't updated, but the Microsoft articles don't
indicate anything else.

Are you saying that as soon as you installed SP1 the
problem just went away? If that's the case, then I
should be seeing my full drive capacity at this
point...but I'm not.

I'm at a loss.

-----Original Message-----

Install the SP1 to bipass the 137GB barrier. My 160GB
drive was in the same situation before I install SP1.

KN

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive
to my XP system but I need to enable the system to
recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads
at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as
described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;
[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB
limit. Just for fun, I went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atap i
\Parameters\ so I could maybe change the EnableBigLba
value to 1 as described on the article page. I couldn't
do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing
doesn't exist in the first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended
installation with the Microsoft System Preparation
tool." Not only do I have no idea what that is, but I
don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as
to how to enable the system to see the entire drive.
Any help out there would be deeply appreciated. Thanks!
.
.
 
A

Alex Nichol

bjdzyak said:
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive to my XP system but I need to enable the system to recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads at 137GB (article 303013)

I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as described at URL: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];303013 .

To use '48 bit LBA' addressing (needed to get at more sectors on the
drive than the 128GB binary; 137 billion decimal) that can be addressed
by 28 bits, you need:

A suitable drive - OK

THe OS to have drivers that handle it

A motherboard and BIOS that support it. This is probably the trouble -
only very recent boards have the needed controllers and BIOS. You might
be able to find a BIOS upgrade to do it at the board maker's site:
otherwise you will need a plug in card (eg by Promise) with 48 bit
controllers and BIOS
 
K

Kent_Diego

So what you're saying is that somehow I have to create 2
partitions on the 180GB drive so that neither exceeds the
137GB limit?

The Microsoft article implies that all that has to be
done is to "reset" the registry to accept the larger
drive and somehow POOF! it would happen. I feel like I
missed a memo somewhere.

Use Partition Magic to make one big partition of 180GB.
 
G

Guest

Okay, I found and solved the problem. Well, I found a
workaround anyway. Not really sure why the first thing I
did didn't work.

Anyhow, I have a SOYO Firedragon motherboard with 4 IDE
connections. I had an existing C and D drive into IDE 2
and a 3rd drive plugged into IDE3. After fooling around
trying to get the system to recognize the new drive (and
then figuring out how to format it in WinXP), I arrived
at the situation stated where only a portion of the
drivespace was being recognized.

As something else to try, I flopped my D drive and my new
drive so that the new drive (partially formatted) was now
on the same controller as a SLAVE with C drive. POOF!
In the disk management screen, the new drive showed up
with a portion formatted and okay along with an
unformatted partition. I deleted the partition and
reformatted. All is well!

The other two IDE channels are apparently meant for RAID
setup but I am just using them as a way to plug in extra
drives. For some reason IDE3 and 4 wouldn't recognize
the larger drive but IDE2 does. In any case, it's
working now and I don't have the inclination to go
switching things around to find out the answers. So
thanks to all for your help with this!

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to install a new Hitachi Deskstar harddrive
to my XP system but I need to enable the system to
recognize the 180 GB. Currently the capacity only reads
at 137GB (article 303013)
I have the proper version of the Atapi.sys file as
described at URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;
[LN];303013 .
So now what? My drive still reads at the lower GB
limit. Just for fun, I went into Regedit to track down
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi
\Parameters\ so I could maybe change the EnableBigLba
value to 1 as described on the article page. I couldn't
do this as my system did not show an EnableBigLba name or
icon anywhere. How can I change the value if the thing
doesn't exist in the first place?
The only other instructions are for an "unattended
installation with the Microsoft System Preparation
tool." Not only do I have no idea what that is, but I
don't believe it applies to me anyhow.
The instructions stop there and give no further clue as
to how to enable the system to see the entire drive.
 

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