Generation loss with DV?

[Tony Morgan]

How did you manage that? Do you know of any hack to pursuade Movie
Maker to use Panasonic codec?

Try using Google. It's also on PapaJohn's website. As I said, it's well
documented.

 

[Rehan]

Why is that?????? I mean, if it's a known bug is there an official fix? What
does M$ say about that?

MS are aware of it. I dont know what their policy is about resolving it.
Papajohn has done extensive study of this bug and has sent his
observations to MS.

Btw, is it every 27th frame or only THE 27th frame in each clip?

It is approximately 27th in each clip. I say approximately as the number
of the frame that gets lost is not persistent after the first clip.
See papajohns site:
http://www.eicsoftware.com/PapaJohn/MM2/MM2-Issues-Video.html

 

[Rehan]

Try using Google. It's also on PapaJohn's website. As I said, it's well
documented.

Please point me to it as I cannot locate it on Papjohn's website.
neither can I locate anywhere else about the subject of using
non-microsoft dv codec with movie maker. In your reply please post a few
links!

Hope you are not just making it up ?

 

[Tony Morgan]

Please point me to it as I cannot locate it on Papjohn's website.
neither can I locate anywhere else about the subject of using
non-microsoft dv codec with movie maker. In your reply please post a
few links!

Hope you are not just making it up ?

No I am not. The real laugh is that you profess to write plug-ins for
MM... LOL. Worse, you seem too clueless to use Google.

Here's a link that will help even you to download and install the
Panasonic codec.

http://users.tpg.com.au/mtam/guide_wmm2.htm

Also, since you seem to have so much difficulty finding things, here's a
PapaJohn webpage that gives a whole bunch of information (including how
to register/unregister codecs).

http://www.eicsoftware.com/PapaJohn/MM2/MM2.html

There's a huge amount of information on MM related things on PapaJohn's
website - if you take the trouble to look for it.

 

[Rehan]

Tony Morgan wrote:
....

No I am not. The real laugh is that you profess to write plug-ins for
MM... LOL. Worse, you seem too clueless to use Google.

Here's a link that will help even you to download and install the
Panasonic codec.

http://users.tpg.com.au/mtam/guide_wmm2.htm

Tony, this web page only shows you how to convert a DV AVI file produced
by Movie Maker from type 1 to type 2. This can be done either using
VirtualDub or by using a freely available converter.

This process will not fix the dropped frames that are dropped by Movie
Maker prior to any conversion.

Please read the information carefully you post about. Although I can
understand how the (vague) wording used on the webpage might mislead
people who have not tried the procedure themselves. But this is very
irresponsive of you to boast with such authority about things you have
not actually tried!

Also, since you seem to have so much difficulty finding things, here's a
PapaJohn webpage that gives a whole bunch of information (including how
to register/unregister codecs).

http://www.eicsoftware.com/PapaJohn/MM2/MM2.html

There's a huge amount of information on MM related things on PapaJohn's
website - if you take the trouble to look for it.

I am fully aware of Papjohn's website and its content. But you claimed
that his website contains information about using Panasonic DV codec to
replace broken Microsoft DV codec within Movie Maker. I challenged you
to justify this claim but you have just provided shallow reply pointing
to the main web page. This did not prove anything.

This is my final reply to you unless you come up with something
substantial (rather than slurs and flame war).

For others benefits i will summarise the current knowledge about Movie
Makers DV AVI output:

When rendering to DV AVI, Movie Maker drops one frame for every clip
used in a project. This problem cannot be avoided by installing any
other DV codec.

More information about this issue is mentioned on the following page on
Papajohn's website. Note: No mention of a solution via panasonic codec
as claimed by Tony:

http://www.eicsoftware.com/PapaJohn/MM2/MM2-Issues-Video.html

Best regards.