From Athon to Intel with new P4C800. Please help...

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mart131

I'm up-grading from an athlon 1800 xp on an MSI K7 MASTER motherboard to a
Intel 3.0ghz on a Asus P4C800 motherboard. My question is, do I need to
reformat my hard drive and do a clean os install due to the fact that I have
amd chipset drivers on my os or will the os change everything that needs to
be changed when it detects the new processor and motherboard from asus?
Really appreciate the help.
 
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Tim

Hi,

You have 2 main options:

1. A repair install will fix up your system for the new mobo, or
2. A full new install.

2. is preferable as you will reformat and ditch everything buggy along with
spyware & a HD reformat is always good.
1. Works! Contrary to some peoples experiences, a repair install is the
thing to do.

If you are going to do a repair, don't boot the new computer with the old HD
until you have done the repair - this will cause all sorts of boot problems
and lead you to think repairs can't work. The mobo devices are all in
different places this is why.

If you are going to do a repair:
(optional) check system stability using memtest86 first wihout the HD
present,
bung in the hd when happy with memory stability
check bios to boot off cd
boot off cd and proceed as though you were going to do a new install.
The installer will detect the existing windows installation and ask if you
want to do a repair.

Make user you have RAID / SCSI device drivers on hand for F6 if needed.

HTH
- Tim
 
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Roy Coorne

mart131 said:
I'm up-grading from an athlon 1800 xp on an MSI K7 MASTER motherboard to a
Intel 3.0ghz on a Asus P4C800 motherboard. My question is, do I need to
reformat my hard drive and do a clean os install due to the fact that I have
amd chipset drivers on my os or will the os change everything that needs to
be changed when it detects the new processor and motherboard from asus?
Really appreciate the help.
I did such a transfer: from an Athlon XP 2400+ on MSI K7N2-L system to
a Pentium 4 2.4C on an Asus P4P800 Deluxe system.

I did this via repair install - see Tim's posting - but before
switching the HDD, I deinstalled in the Control Panel all motherboard
related software (incl. driver for on-board sound and on-board LAN)
and, to be on the safe side, the video card driver.

(Be aware that after the repair install you have to re-install all
WinXP hotfixes and probably do a repair of MS Office, if present on
your system.)

Roy
 
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DaveW

Whenever you change motherboards in a system you HAVE to reformat the
harddrive and do a clean install of XP to avoid nasty ongoing Registry
errors.
 
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Tim

rubbish
DaveW said:
Whenever you change motherboards in a system you HAVE to reformat the
harddrive and do a clean install of XP to avoid nasty ongoing Registry
errors.
 
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Philip Callan

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Tim wrote:

| rubbish

Well, he's half right, not because of the chipset change, Windows XP and
its 'Repair' function are fairly tolerant of major hardware changes. It
will boot, and it will run.

*BUT* because any major editing of the registry undermines the general
stability of windows in general, and can leave dead branches etc, which
WILL cause registry errors, which when uncheked are cumulative, and can
cause serious performance issues.

Generally when switching something as major as the motherboard, and the
proliferation of chipsets and drivers required for each, it *IS* best to
do a re-installation, as this will give you the CLEANEST possible
windows installation, and in the long run, far better performance.

Philip
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Tim

Phillip, read my post above where I state clearly that a new install is the
most desirable method.
Then write a program that can create a 'dead branch' in the registry - you
will find that you can't.

For a system that is otherwise clean, the user has been judicious about what
they install & what they don't, that does not have a history of virus or
spyware or any other type of malware, a repair install is fine. If you
purchase an MSI (any) board a year ago, installed a suite, had AV, never had
a virus, never installed a download etc. had stability, then there is
absolutely nothing wrong with a repair. If you run your system in such a
manner that virus and spyware are frequently found, and / or you install
software willy nilly, have general system instability problems, occasional
system crashes etc. then a new install should be regarded as mandatory as
well as a training course in computers.

My own preference is a clean install, but as everyone knows the economics of
time (of the customer) often dictate that the most expedient path is
sometimes the choice. I frequently state that people should always know how
to rebuild their systems from scratch (backups bla bla bla as well) so that
they do not get themselves in the situation where they cannot recover from a
disk failure or rebuild at the drop of a hat.

The reality is that most people: do not have a clue how to correctly run a
computer, put up with low quality / flakey systems, install software at
whim, open any email message, do not run AV software correctly, wouldn't
know what a firewall is, so really do need a new install.

The comments made by DaveW are plainly incorrect - particularly in the
context of my original statements.

- Tim
 
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Mart131

Thanks everybody that replied to my post. I took your advice Tim and just
did a clean install. I'm happy to say that I'm up and running again with the
new motherboard and the switch back to the Intel cpu went great. The only
problem I had was I kept getting a message about no hard drive being
detected by the promise controller .( Fasstrac something error) I finally
disabled it in the BIOS since I'm still running an ultra DMA100 seagate hard
drive and dont know very much about the sata or RAID stuff. Its been a few
years since I built my last system and I wanted to make sure I saved my self
from going to crazy. Thats why I asked the original question. Thanks again
everyone for your help.
 

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