Fresh Install, won't boot off HDD

[Guest]

Howdy

Cliff Notes: Win2k Install goes fine off the CD or HDD, then when it reboots it hangs..

I have a 20gig HDD that I wiped clean and formatted to FAT32. I copied my Win2k CD to the HDD to make the install go faster and so I have the files for later. (also tried installing from CD itself with no change in the results

I booted off a Win98 boot disk and ran the Winnt.exe file from the i386 folder

It went through the initial part of the Win2k setup and copied a bunch of files and such

Then I got to the part where I take out the disk and boot off the HDD into Windows for the intial setup

Problem is that when it boots up, it checks the BIOS and then just stops. It won't even read the HDD at all. I've tried different ribbon cables, changing the jumpers on the HDD, etc and it just stops during the boot. I'm stumped

Specs
Soyo MB with the latest BIOS
Samsung 20gig Driv
P3 733 Chi

Anyone have any suggestion

EDIT
I *can* boot off the floppy and see the contents of the drive. After doing the initial part of the install when I go to the C drive and run a "dir", I see
$LDR
$WIN_NT$.~BT (folder
$WIN_NT$.~LS (folder
NTDETECT.CO
NTLD
TXTSETUP.SI
and then the WIN2000 folder I put the install files into and a Drivers folder I have the motherboard drivers in
THere's also a hidden BOOT.INI file..

Am I just missing some files or something? I've tried different settings in the BIOS for boot order and for the HDD setup, pulled out all the cards (modem, sounds, etc). It's bsically like it's not recognizing the HDD even though Bios detects it and I *can* see it if I boot off a floppy

Help. :

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Howdy,

Cliff Notes: Win2k Install goes fine off the CD or HDD, then when it reboots it hangs...


I have a 20gig HDD that I wiped clean and formatted to FAT32. I copied my

Win2k CD to the HDD to make the install go faster and so I have the files
for later. (also tried installing from CD itself with no change in the
results)

I booted off a Win98 boot disk and ran the Winnt.exe file from the i386 folder.

It went through the initial part of the Win2k setup and copied a bunch of files and such.

Then I got to the part where I take out the disk and boot off the HDD into Windows for the intial setup.

Problem is that when it boots up, it checks the BIOS and then just stops.

It won't even read the HDD at all. I've tried different ribbon cables,
changing the jumpers on the HDD, etc and it just stops during the boot. I'm
stumped.

Specs:
Soyo MB with the latest BIOS.
Samsung 20gig Drive
P3 733 Chip

Anyone have any suggestions

EDIT:
I *can* boot off the floppy and see the contents of the drive. After doing

the initial part of the install when I go to the C drive and run a "dir", I
see:

$LDR$
$WIN_NT$.~BT (folder)
$WIN_NT$.~LS (folder)
NTDETECT.COM
NTLDR
TXTSETUP.SIF
and then the WIN2000 folder I put the install files into and a Drivers

folder I have the motherboard drivers in.

THere's also a hidden BOOT.INI file...

Am I just missing some files or something? I've tried different settings

in the BIOS for boot order and for the HDD setup, pulled out all the cards
(modem, sounds, etc). It's bsically like it's not recognizing the HDD even
though Bios detects it and I *can* see it if I boot off a floppy.

Help.

You may have to press F5 or F7 during the first part of the installation
phase, to force a different HAL or to run setup without ACPI. I would start
with F7. See here for details:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;237556

 

[Guest]

I found this snipet on the page you linked to

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The optimum method to change from an ACPI HAL to a Standard HAL is to re-install Windows 2000 as an upgrade:
Start Windows 2000 Setup as an upgrade
To automatically disable ACPI support and allow Windows 2000 to detect automatically or manually change and install the correct (Standard HAL) computer type that your computer supports, use either of the following methods

To Auto detect the computer type

Press F7 when Setup generates the following informational message:
Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver.

NOTE: You do not receive a visual indicator that auto detection is taking place when you press F7; proceed normally with setup until it is completed

To Manually Select your computer type

Press F5, and then manually choose the correct Standard computer type by using the following list
i386 source File Computer Type
*hal.dll Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible
*halapic.dll MPS Uniprocessor PC
*halapic.dll MPS Multiprocessor PC
*hal.dll Standard PC
*halborg.dll SGI mp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll be happy to try this but..

I have my Win2k CD but I can't boot from it for whatever reason. So all I can do to boot is use a WIn98 floppy disk. (Or maybe I can make WIn2k special boot disks from a different Win2k machine that actually works?
Anyway, the instructions say to "Start Windows 2000 Setup as an upgrade". How do I do this exactly since WIn2k never actually installed itself to begin with? It only installed the first part that basically just copies the files from the CD, it never got far enough to actually start installing Windows itself..

Just not sure where to start..

Thanks.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

I found this snipet on the page you linked to:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The optimum method to change from an ACPI HAL to a Standard HAL is to

re-install Windows 2000 as an upgrade:

Start Windows 2000 Setup as an upgrade.
To automatically disable ACPI support and allow Windows 2000 to detect

automatically or manually change and install the correct (Standard HAL)
computer type that your computer supports, use either of the following
methods:

To Auto detect the computer type:

Press F7 when Setup generates the following informational message:
Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver.

NOTE: You do not receive a visual indicator that auto detection is taking

place when you press F7; proceed normally with setup until it is completed.

To Manually Select your computer type:

Press F5, and then manually choose the correct Standard computer type by using the following list:
i386 source File Computer Type
*hal.dll Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible
*halapic.dll MPS Uniprocessor PC
*halapic.dll MPS Multiprocessor PC
*hal.dll Standard PC
*halborg.dll SGI mp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll be happy to try this but...

I have my Win2k CD but I can't boot from it for whatever reason. So all I

can do to boot is use a WIn98 floppy disk. (Or maybe I can make WIn2k
special boot disks from a different Win2k machine that actually works?)

Anyway, the instructions say to "Start Windows 2000 Setup as an upgrade".

How do I do this exactly since WIn2k never actually installed itself to
begin with? It only installed the first part that basically just copies the
files from the CD, it never got far enough to actually start installing
Windows itself...

Just not sure where to start...

Thanks.

You can press F5, F6 or F7 for a new installation. I've tried it.

You can boot your machine with a Win98 boot disk, then start the
installation process with the command \i386\winnt (as you found out
yourself). This will only work if you have an existing FAT32 partition on
your hard disk. You can convert it to NTFS later on.

It would be much nicer for you to boot off your CD. Consult your
motherboard/BIOS manual on how to do this, or visit the web page of your
motherboard manufacturer. These days all PCs are capable of booting off the
CD.

 

[Dan Seur]

To create the 4 setup diskettes, have 4 empty diskettes ready, and on
any machine that can read the W2k CD navigate to
[CD:]\i386\BOOTDISK
and run
makebt32.exe if you're on a 32-bit OS, or
makeboot.exe if you're on a 16-bit OS.
The results are identical. Diskette 1 will boot and start the normal
install process, which will prompt you for the other diskettes and the
CD as you go along.

 

[Dan Seur]

Gosh, is toting a CD so very tough? Here, hold my hand.

 

[Guest]

No but if it's on a PC, then I can make the disks at work and save me a few minutes when I get home..

But don't worry, I found a rogue Win2k CD at work so I made them anyway....

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Well I have to try this when I get home from work so let me make sure I have this right...

1) Boot off my disk as I normally do (worry about the CD later if this doesn't work)
2) Go to the i386 folder and run the WinNT.exe file
3) First prompt asks me where the install files are located (D:\i386)
4) Once I hit <Enter> it starts copying all the files and just goe suntil it's done.
5) As soon as step 4 is done, it gives me the screen saying to remove any

Where in there do I press F7 (or 5 or 6) to make it do it's thing?

Here is the instruction, copied right out of the link I gave you:

"To Auto detect the computer type:"
"Press F7 when Setup generates the following informational message: "
Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver.

 

[Colon Terminus]

You say you "wiped clean" your hard disk. Are you certain you have an Active
partition? Does Fdisk show a partition as "Active"?

Howdy,

Cliff Notes: Win2k Install goes fine off the CD or HDD, then when it reboots it hangs...


I have a 20gig HDD that I wiped clean and formatted to FAT32. I copied my

Win2k CD to the HDD to make the install go faster and so I have the files
for later. (also tried installing from CD itself with no change in the
results)

I booted off a Win98 boot disk and ran the Winnt.exe file from the i386 folder.

It went through the initial part of the Win2k setup and copied a bunch of files and such.

Then I got to the part where I take out the disk and boot off the HDD into Windows for the intial setup.

Problem is that when it boots up, it checks the BIOS and then just stops.

It won't even read the HDD at all. I've tried different ribbon cables,
changing the jumpers on the HDD, etc and it just stops during the boot. I'm
stumped.

Specs:
Soyo MB with the latest BIOS.
Samsung 20gig Drive
P3 733 Chip

Anyone have any suggestions

EDIT:
I *can* boot off the floppy and see the contents of the drive. After doing

the initial part of the install when I go to the C drive and run a "dir", I
see:

$LDR$
$WIN_NT$.~BT (folder)
$WIN_NT$.~LS (folder)
NTDETECT.COM
NTLDR
TXTSETUP.SIF
and then the WIN2000 folder I put the install files into and a Drivers

folder I have the motherboard drivers in.

THere's also a hidden BOOT.INI file...

Am I just missing some files or something? I've tried different settings

in the BIOS for boot order and for the HDD setup, pulled out all the cards
(modem, sounds, etc). It's bsically like it's not recognizing the HDD even
though Bios detects it and I *can* see it if I boot off a floppy.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

I saw that, but I don't recall seeing that message when I've done the

install multiple times so far. Unless I have to sit there and watch it
copying everything untilthat pops up so I can hit F7 real quick...? I'm not
sure when that message is supposed to appear.

But I'll try booting off the Win2k boot disks I made today and maybe that will help too.

Thanks for the help so far!

When you start the installation process, the message "Press F6 if you need
to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver" always appears almost at the
start, without fail. This is when you must press F7. You will see no
confirmation on the screen.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the help. I made the 4 Win 2k boot disks and used those to do the booting up and then I did get the prompt I was looking for. Hit F7 and it rent the rest of the way without any problems

Thanks for the help