FP will NOT open my web!

G

Guest

Brian~ I would definately be a happy camper if I was you!!

I'm tired of this. That shortcut made absolutely no sense to me at all
since I am not computer intelligent that way. When I load FP it doesn't ask
me for a password or a user name, it automatically starts loading when I
click on FP, so I'm kind of stuck as I get the hourglass immediately and
can't do a thing.

We've cleaned up the computer quite a bit and that didn't seem to solve the
problem either. And I don't know anyone else that uses FP that I could see
if my web opened from their computer. Probably, as I can (well could until I
checked the automatically open last web button) open any other web in FP,
just not my web that is on the internet, the only one I want to work on of
course!!

Jennifer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

At this point here is what I would do:

Contact your host.
Have them restore a backup of your live site.
Once that is done...try:
Open IE
Browse to your site.
Then click on the button: Edit | Frontpage on the top tool bar
This will prompt you for un/pw to open the site live.
If it opens (it should Open in FP)
Then choose
File | Publish
Then Publish All to a NEW location on your HD, like:
C:\My Documents\My Webs\JENNIFER2

This will bring down the backup website to your local harddrive, to a new webname (JENNIFER2...can be any NEW name you want)
 
G

Guest

Thanks Rob~ That totally makes sense to me and I will contact my host right
away.

Jennifer
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Jennifer,

Try this...

Open in any html document in your IE browser on your HD, then click File Menu | Edit with FP, then
as some as you see the page in FP, immediately go to Tools | Option and disable open last web
automatically.

If that doesn't work, send me an email directly.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WebMaster Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
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Guest

Somehow I got FP to disable "open last web..", but I'm not sure how. I think
between me and my host deleting things on the FTP and on the server, it said
there was nothing there to load so it wouldn't. This way I was able to
disable the open last web option. But now FP will still not open. When I
click on file/open/... it just hangs there. Doesn't say it's loading or
anything. It will still open up anything else in FP, just not my site. Last
time someone had asked for my site, but it wasn't being displayed because of
an error. I have that fixed so if it helps the URL is
http://www.momonabudget.com .

Thanks,
Jennifer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

Welp you are sorta-almost there.

1- The web site STILL DOES NOT have FP extensions installed.
2- You cannot open an FP website "live" without FP extensions installed.

IF you had FP extensions installed you would open the live web by:
Open FP
File | OPEN WEB/SITE
http://blahblah blah

If you want to work via FTP you will need to learn how & what to transfer via FTP and you will not be able to use the features we went over previously.

To open your web on your machine...review the previous posts - you must OPEN WEB not just "OPEN".

Make sure you are choosing OPEN WEB then browse to Web's name...try not to Open My Webs...if I remember your web is named MyWeb so it has to be My Webs/My Web that you try to open. You really should rename your web to something else.

Also...blue & green text is almost impossible to read on black bg. And, there is a ton of bravenet.com code on your page...have no idea what it's for.
 
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Stefan B Rusynko

Its probably because your pages use external links to other servers
(which may take forever to open - if al all) as in
<img src="http://www.marketingtips.com/images/emailebook.gif" border="0" width="124" height="174">
or
<img src="http://assets.bravenet.com/cp/guestbook.gif" border="0" title="Free Guestbook from Bravenet.com" alt="Free Guestbook from
Bravenet.com" followed by a lot of "garbage"

Try turning your internet connection on (open IE to a web page), and then opening your local site in FP
or turning off your internet connection , and then opening your local site in FP

Or open the file in note pad and delete all the bravenet code and any external links




| Somehow I got FP to disable "open last web..", but I'm not sure how. I think
| between me and my host deleting things on the FTP and on the server, it said
| there was nothing there to load so it wouldn't. This way I was able to
| disable the open last web option. But now FP will still not open. When I
| click on file/open/... it just hangs there. Doesn't say it's loading or
| anything. It will still open up anything else in FP, just not my site. Last
| time someone had asked for my site, but it wasn't being displayed because of
| an error. I have that fixed so if it helps the URL is
| http://www.momonabudget.com .
|
| Thanks,
| Jennifer
|
|
| "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
|
| > Jennifer,
| >
| > Try this...
| >
| > Open in any html document in your IE browser on your HD, then click File Menu | Edit with FP, then
| > as some as you see the page in FP, immediately go to Tools | Option and disable open last web
| > automatically.
| >
| > If that doesn't work, send me an email directly.
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > WebMaster Resources(tm)
| >
| > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | > > Brian~ I would definately be a happy camper if I was you!!
| > >
| > > I'm tired of this. That shortcut made absolutely no sense to me at all
| > > since I am not computer intelligent that way. When I load FP it doesn't ask
| > > me for a password or a user name, it automatically starts loading when I
| > > click on FP, so I'm kind of stuck as I get the hourglass immediately and
| > > can't do a thing.
| > >
| > > We've cleaned up the computer quite a bit and that didn't seem to solve the
| > > problem either. And I don't know anyone else that uses FP that I could see
| > > if my web opened from their computer. Probably, as I can (well could until I
| > > checked the automatically open last web button) open any other web in FP,
| > > just not my web that is on the internet, the only one I want to work on of
| > > course!!
| > >
| > > Jennifer
| > >
| > > "Ronx" wrote:
| > >
| > >> You may be able to open your local site directly from a command line
| > >> or by using a shortcut.
| > >>
| > >> See www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/shortcut.htm
| > >> which shows examples of shortcut properties for a disc based web and
| > >> server based web for FP2003. Change the program path and website
| > >> details for your own situation.
| > >> The target can be typed into the Run box (Start->Run) to save building
| > >> the shortcut.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Ron Symonds
| > >> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Thanks for the note Brian! I feel better knowing that I'm not going
| > >> > crazy!!
| > >> > Mine problem started last week Monday already. At this point, I
| > >> > don't know
| > >> > what the hell is going on anymore. Everyone I ask always assumes it
| > >> > has to
| > >> > do with uploading my website to the internet, but I can't even open
| > >> > my
| > >> > website! I'm still waiting for an email from my web server to see
| > >> > what they
| > >> > can do if anything. I don't know how else to access my website so
| > >> > that I can
| > >> > edit my pages and then upload it.
| > >> >
| > >> > Thanks, and if I ever find a solution I will let you know!
| > >> >
| > >> > Jennifer
| > >> >
| > >> > "Brian G" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> Thomas- I'm not certain that it was caused by the security update,
| > >> >> but it
| > >> >> happened to have started at that time. Not sure if it was a
| > >> >> coincidence at
| > >> >> this point, because a second computer on the same router had an
| > >> >> update and
| > >> >> still worked fine for a few days. But if all else fails, I'll make
| > >> >> that
| > >> >> call. I am on my computer at work and I can connect to my web site
| > >> >> just fine
| > >> >> with FP from here.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Unfortunately after today, I'll be out of town for about 4 days, so
| > >> >> I"ll
| > >> >> have to get back on this issue when I return. Or maybe I'll get
| > >> >> lucky and
| > >> >> someone else will seek out this area and give us the solution in
| > >> >> the meantime.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> BTW, I noticed Jennifer was having problems with a local server.
| > >> >> Mine is
| > >> >> with a remote server - but it sounds almost identical.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >> >>
| > >> >> > If you believe that your issue is cause by the a security update:
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > Technical support is available from Microsoft Product Support
| > >> >> > Services at 1-866-PC SAFETY (1-866-727-2338). There is no
| > >> >> > charge for support calls associated with security updates.
| > >> >> > --
| > >> >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> >> > WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> >> > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> >> > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> >> > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> >> > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > | > >> >> > > Jennifer. You're not alone! I have run into this same problem
| > >> >> > > lately and
| > >> >> > > have not been able to find the answer. It started happening
| > >> >> > > to me this past
| > >> >> > > Friday morning after my computer had a windows auto update and
| > >> >> > > my computer
| > >> >> > > was rebooted automatically. Since that time my name and
| > >> >> > > password comes up to
| > >> >> > > connect and after I send it out, it just collects information
| > >> >> > > until my
| > >> >> > > computer runs out of memory. I have a second computer and it
| > >> >> > > was working
| > >> >> > > fine for several days and now it's starting to do the same
| > >> >> > > thing. I've tried
| > >> >> > > reinstalling and restore and nothing seems to help. I just
| > >> >> > > read about trying
| > >> >> > > to change my options so it doesn't open the last web page and
| > >> >> > > I'm hoping it
| > >> >> > > will work.
| > >> >> > >
| > >> >> > > BTW, I've been using the same program and web site for several
| > >> >> > > years and
| > >> >> > > this is the first time I've had this problem. So the problem
| > >> >> > > might not be
| > >> >> > > your host. I'll check back in this area in case there are more
| > >> >> > > suggestions
| > >> >> > > on how to get past this!
| > >> >> > >
| > >> >> > > "Jennifer" wrote:
| > >> >> > >
| > >> >> > >> Thanks! Awesome, I'll try that! They never directly answer
| > >> >> > >> my questions,
| > >> >> > >> just go at them in a round about way. I'll see what I can do!
| > >> >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> Thanks,
| > >> >> > >> Jennifer
| > >> >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >> >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > Jennifer,
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > FP is set to open you live site, since that was the last
| > >> >> > >> > site open at the time.
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > You have indicated that you host moved or did something with
| > >> >> > >> > your web site, this is where the
| > >> >> > >> > 403
| > >> >> > >> > error is coming from. So the issue is to see if you can get
| > >> >> > >> > your host to restore your site to
| > >> >> > >> > it
| > >> >> > >> > original location/ip address.
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > --
| > >> >> > >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> > >> > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> >> > >> > WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> >> > >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> > >> > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> >> > >> > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> >> > >> > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> >> > >> > http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> >> > >> > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> >> > >> > security update, then there is usually no charge for the
| > >> >> > >> > call.
| > >> >> > >> > ==============================================
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > message
| > >> >> > >> > | > >> >> > >> > > We went through the whole computer and cleaned it up stuff
| > >> >> > >> > > including all the
| > >> >> > >> > > temp files and the .web files. And I can't uncheck open
| > >> >> > >> > > last web because it
| > >> >> > >> > > starts loading as soon as it's opened and it hangs there
| > >> >> > >> > > and never loads so I
| > >> >> > >> > > can't get to anything else. And the 403 forbidden error
| > >> >> > >> > > is because it's not
| > >> >> > >> > > finding my homepage. That's because I can't load my web
| > >> >> > >> > > in FP to publish it.
| > >> >> > >> > > See why I have a major problem?!!
| > >> >> > >> > >
| > >> >> > >> > > Any other ideas, PLEASE!
| > >> >> > >> > >
| > >> >> > >> > > Thanks,
| > >> >> > >> > > Jennifer
| > >> >> > >> > >
| > >> >> > >> > >
| > >> >> > >> > > "Ronx" wrote:
| > >> >> > >> > >
| > >> >> > >> > >> If you are opening your local web on your own hard disc,
| > >> >> > >> > >> your host has
| > >> >> > >> > >> absolutely no control or influence over this.
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >> Have you tried some cleanup?
| > >> >> > >> > >> With FrontPage closed, Find and delete all *.web cache
| > >> >> > >> > >> files, normally
| > >> >> > >> > >> located at
| > >> >> > >> > >> %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > >> >> > >> > >> Paste this into the Windows Explorer address bar.
| > >> >> > >> > >> Delete all files at this location, FP will recreate them
| > >> >> > >> > >> as and when
| > >> >> > >> > >> required.
| > >> >> > >> > >> Also delete all FP temp files:
| > >> >> > >> > >> In FP2003 located at:
| > >> >> > >> > >> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
| > >> >> > >> > >> Files\FrontPageTempDir
| > >> >> > >> > >> Other versions:
| > >> >> > >> > >> C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >> Also empty your Internet Explorer temporary files.
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >> --
| > >> >> > >> > >> Ron Symonds
| > >> >> > >> > >> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > >> >> > >> > >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >> message
| > >> >> > >> > >> | > >> >> > >> > >> > I'm trying to open my web on my local server through My
| > >> >> > >> > >> > Documents
| > >> >> > >> > >> > like I
| > >> >> > >> > >> > usually do. I open FP then I click: File/Open/MyWebs
| > >> >> > >> > >> > etc and click
| > >> >> > >> > >> > on my
| > >> >> > >> > >> > folder then a file to open and on the bottom left side
| > >> >> > >> > >> > of the
| > >> >> > >> > >> > screen, just
| > >> >> > >> > >> > about Start it says "LoadingC:/MyDocuments...." etc and
| > >> >> > >> > >> > it continues
| > >> >> > >> > >> > to
| > >> >> > >> > >> > "load" never opening anything up. It's been going on
| > >> >> > >> > >> > for over a
| > >> >> > >> > >> > week now.
| > >> >> > >> > >> > My server insists that it's nothing on their end, as
| > >> >> > >> > >> > they have no
| > >> >> > >> > >> > problems
| > >> >> > >> > >> > opening my site. I've uninstalled and reinstalled FP
| > >> >> > >> > >> > and that still
| > >> >> > >> > >> > hasn't
| > >> >> > >> > >> > done anything. I don't know if it's trying to open a
| > >> >> > >> > >> > large file and
| > >> >> > >> > >> > it's
| > >> >> > >> > >> > getting "stuck" or what, but I don't know of any other
| > >> >> > >> > >> > way to edit a
| > >> >> > >> > >> > file to
| > >> >> > >> > >> > make it smaller so that FP will open it, IF THAT'S what
| > >> >> > >> > >> > the problem
| > >> >> > >> > >> > is.
| > >> >> > >> > >> > Please help me! This has been going on over a week now
| > >> >> > >> > >> > and I can't
| > >> >> > >> > >> > get my
| > >> >> > >> > >> > website republished.
| > >> >> > >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> > >> > Thanks,
| > >> >> > >> > >> > Jennifer
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> > >>
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> > >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

The FP server extensions are installed. You must have looked between my host
deactivating them and me reactivating them and inbetween LONG emails with
them.
I tried to open the live site by File/OpenWeb/then picked my site and it
said "loading...." and never opened the site still. And I did rename my web
to Jennifer (don't ask why I had named it that....). And I'd like to delete
some things and edit some fonts and colors, but I CAN'T! (the bg color should
be a brownish color, not black). I have a few Bravenet things on there
because I have had problems from the beginning with my FP extensions not
loading up guestbooks and forms correctly, so to forget all the hassle I just
used theirs.
I tried both of Stefan's ideas and neither worked so I'm going to try to
load them in Notepad, if icna figure that out and try to delete some of the
"crap". That's what I get for playing around a bit!

Thanks,
Jennifer
 
G

Guest

I can't get notepad to open anything. I may be doing it wrong since I've
never used notepad before. But when I tried to open my web pages, it only
gave me certain files to choose from and none of them were my actual pages.
Any ideas??

Jennifer
 
G

Guest

OK I went to my actual website on the internet, clicked on File and then I
clicked on Edit with Frontpages. That opened up my page, but only half of
it. It would not load my shared borders. Now I don't want to save what I
edit because I'm afraid it will save it without the borders. Do you know why
it would open up without the borders on it? Is that maybe where my problem
is? What should I do to get the borders to show up? This is so strange!

Jennifer
 
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Ronx

As far as I can tell, the site still has no FrontPage extensions.
A page will always open in FrontPage without shared borders showing if
you have not opened the site in FrontPage. When you use the "Edit
with FrontPage" button in IE, you should get a logon dialogue, which
results in the site being opened. If the logon does not appear it is
a sign that the extensions are not installed, or not working.
Additional test (for installation) is the presence of
http://www.momonabudget.com/_vti_inf.html

If the file and folder list does appear when opening a page this way,
then close the page, and use Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks. Then try
opening the page.
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

As of 3 minutes ago...I still don't see extensions installed on the URL you provided.

You're right about bg color it's very dark brown.

Also you have some Java (not javascript) now running on the page...I think it's Let's Get Started box. Java buttons will only be seen if your viewer has JVM installed on their computer. Otherwise it will be seen as a blank gray box. In other words don't use Hover buttons.

Also, since you are on a linux server you need to eliminate spaces from your file names (they will appear as %20) you can use and underscore instead. You should also stick to lowercase in file names as well.
 
G

Guest

I've contacted my server again about my extensions and am still waiting for a
response. I have had problems with my extensions through them from the
beginning.
The login definately did not appear when I clicked on "edit with frontpage".
Where should I choose Tools->Recalculate hyperlinks? In Frontpages? I
tried in FP when I had one page open (since it would only show me the option
when I had a page open) and it just hung on. Should I be trying it this way
or a different way?

Jennifer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

You won't get to Recalculate Hyperlinks on your online web, because of the lack of FP extensions. You can run them on your local copy but it's not gonna help right now...not until you get FP extensions installed on the server.
 

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