For the MVP's and Microsoft guys and anybody else About 7

[Kaja]

Sorry to post in XP but did not think there was a Windows 7 group yet.

I have heard so many things about the upcoming release of Windows 7 on Oct
22nd from Microsoft and others.

The way I understand it Windows Photo Gallery and Windows Live Photo
Gallery, which I love are excluded in 7. You have to buy an "ultimate
upgrade", so correct me if I am wrong, I am a novice. A redesigned taskbar
does not do too much for me.

Now according to Microsoft, 7 Will make make my computer "more responsive"
and what if I have little space on the hard drive, is not that a factor? Will
it cut down on processes and if I use the same computer and do no, the
increase in performance or responsiseveness as MS says? I don't plan to add
any additional RAM or a faster or better CPU chip, how is this possible? So
many are on a limited budget and are the compatibilty issues fully resolved?
I would love any feedback so I can learn.

Thanks
Kaja

 

[Peter Foldes]

Kaja

Microsoft has established an excellent special web-based Windows 7 Beta Forum you
can access here:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

Please repost your inquiry in the "Windows 7 Installation, Setup, and Deployment"
forum:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproinstall/threads/

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

What Peter said.

You'll be able to install Windows Live Photo Gallery and any other Windows
Live Essentials crapware you want at no-charge.

 

[Daave]

Now according to Microsoft, 7 Will make make my computer "more
responsive"

More responsive than if it had XP or more responsive than if it had XP?

 

[peter]

Someone already gave you the address of W7 groups.
Like every other operating system W7 has some minimum requirements
We don’t know if your system even comes close to those requirements since
you
did not post your system specs.I can only tell you that I am running XP on
one HD
and W7 on another with an Intel Core2Duo 2.6 processsor and 2 GB of Ram.
I play a few Games,Record some music and Movies.lots of Office spreadsheets
and Word work
as well as the usual Internet stuff.

The W7 OS starts quicker and performs slightly faster in most if not all
applications that
I run. It does use less resources than XP as my free memory is slightly
higher.
I also run another System with Vista and between the 2 I prefer W7...
The amount of free space on a HD affects every OS...if you feel its getting
"tight"
you either need to clean up some space or buy a larger HD...
I assume they have achieved this by cleaning up their codeing, improving
their drivers
and creating better cooperation between CPU and OS.

peter

 

[Daave]

More responsive than if it had XP or more responsive than if it had
XP?

Oops! Try *this*:

More responsive than if it had XP or more responsive than if it had
Vista? LOL

 

[BillW50]

In peter typed on Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:31:04 -0600:

Someone already gave you the address of W7 groups. Like every other
operating system W7 has some minimum requirements We don't know if
your system even comes close to those requirements since you did not
post your system specs.I can only tell you that I am running XP on one
HD and W7 on another with an Intel Core2Duo 2.6 processsor and 2 GB of
Ram. I play a few Games, Record some music and Movies.lots of Office
spreadsheets and Word work as well as the usual Internet stuff.

The W7 OS starts quicker and performs slightly faster in most if not
all applications that I run. It does use less resources than XP as my
free memory is slightly higher. I also run another System with Vista
and between the 2 I prefer W7... The amount of free space on a HD
affects every OS...if you feel its getting "tight" you either need to
clean up some space or buy a larger HD... I assume they have achieved
this by cleaning up their codeing, improving their drivers and
creating better cooperation between CPU and OS.

peter

I have the opposite experience. As I have Windows 7 on one EeePC with a
Celeron 900 and a Gateway MX6124 with a Celeron 1.5GHz. Both have 2GB of
RAM. And doing nothing, the CPU never drops below 20% usage. And
everything I run is very much slower than the same machine running XP
Home or Pro (which XP shows 0% usage if I am doing nothing). And XP runs
100% of the software I want to run while Windows 7 only runs about 90%.
So I am not sure what Microsoft is pulling, but I for one don't like it.

 

[Kaja]

Thank you for your reply. The tough economy hit everyone I think.
Pocketbooks are tight. I know that I really do not matter to a huge
corporation like Microsoft or to yourself. I am just one consumer, and as a
consumer I have choices when I buy and I spend money and tell others of my
experience, so I do matter.

Now my question was to MS and you being an MVP are somehow affiliated with
Microsoft. So I think the bottom line is money. Microsoft spends a huge
amount on advertising to knock off Google, and I am sure spent money creating
and developing the new OS Windows 7.

I am sure Microsoft wants the consumer to buy Windows 7, preferrably on Oct
22nd when it comes out for what I understand is around a price tag of $119
never mind if I use XP Or Vista. Microsoft wants the same thing they want the
consumers money. So if they want this, then they need to convince the
consumer to spend the money. They need to convince us that 7 is better.

So I ask, and from a Microsoft affiliate and I get a curt answer and I ask
about two programs that are Windows programs, Microsoft programs and you say
they are "crapware". You put down your own company. Myself I will save my
money for something else than buying an upgrade to 7. If Microsoft is
displeased they should try harder to woo potential consumers.
Best Regards,
Kaja

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Now my question was to MS and you being an MVP are somehow affiliated with

Microsoft...

No one from Microsoft monitors this newsgroup. We're all of us volunteers,
Kaja.

You put down your own company.

MVPs neither work for nor represent Microsoft
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/aboutmvp
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

MVPs tend to be the most critical (pro & con) of all Microsoft customers,

...So I think the bottom line is money.

Of course it is: Like all for-profit corporations, Microsoft's first
responsibility is to its shareholders, not its customers.

I am sure Microsoft wants the consumer to buy Windows 7

See previous answer. WinXP SP3 entered Extended Support on 12 April 2009.
Most WinXP SP3 users will continue to receive critial security updates
through 12 April 2014 but that's all. I suspect most WinXP users will stick
with the OS for many more years, especially given the recent and ongoing
economic meltdown.

...If Microsoft is
displeased they should try harder to woo potential consumers.

Couldn't agree with you more. Unfortunately, most potential customers these
days aren't very discrimating consumers IMHO and tend to be enticed by
flashy adverts.

 

[Peter Foldes]

And now the story comes out. You feel better now

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

<Sheesh> An MVP gets little more than a pat on the back and I don't know any
that are die-hard MS advocates. We are /only/ here to help the users, and
feel the same frustrations.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

 

[Mint]

<Sheesh> An MVP gets little more than a pat on the back and I don't know any
that are die-hard MS advocates. We are /only/ here to help the users, and
feel the same frustrations.
--

              Bruce Hagen
            MS-MVP  [Mail]
          Imperial Beach, CA

I wouldn't take it personal.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

If someone doesn't like Win 7, they simply don't have to buy it.
They do have choices.

A lot of people spend a lot of time looking for the negative things in
life.

Have a good week,
Andy

 

[ANONYMOUS]

What else were you expecting? Were you expecting somebody to say what a
wonderful work you are doing even if it is of no help to majority of MS
customers?

Well, if you think you are not getting the respect you deserve then
clearly you know what you can do. Right?

 

[Bruce Hagen]

From the OP:

<QP>
Now my question was to MS and you being an MVP are somehow affiliated with
Microsoft.

And:

So I ask, and from a Microsoft affiliate and I get a curt answer and I ask
about two programs that are Windows programs, Microsoft programs and you say
they are "crapware". You put down your own company.
</QP>

I /never/ expect anything from the posters.

I am not affiliated with MS in any sense that I am an advocate for them.

I did not make the statement, but some MS programs are, IMO, crapware.

I, (we), are not putting down our own company. It isn't /our/ company, and
(we), are here to help the user, not Microsoft.

Bite me!
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

 

[Kelly]

Hi Bruce,

You misspelled Bite. According to MS, it should be spelled Byte.

Carry on. )

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

From the OP:

<QP>
Now my question was to MS and you being an MVP are somehow affiliated with
Microsoft.

And:

So I ask, and from a Microsoft affiliate and I get a curt answer and I ask
about two programs that are Windows programs, Microsoft programs and you
say they are "crapware". You put down your own company.
</QP>

I /never/ expect anything from the posters.

I am not affiliated with MS in any sense that I am an advocate for them.

I did not make the statement, but some MS programs are, IMO, crapware.

I, (we), are not putting down our own company. It isn't /our/ company, and
(we), are here to help the user, not Microsoft.

Bite me!
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

What else were you expecting? Were you expecting somebody to say what a
wonderful work you are doing even if it is of no help to majority of MS
customers?

Well, if you think you are not getting the respect you deserve then
clearly you know what you can do. Right?

 

[BillW50]

In
Mint typed on Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:50:49 -0700 (PDT):

If someone doesn't like Win 7, they simply don't have to buy it.
They do have choices.

Well Andy... I was tricked. As Microsoft had a deal that you could buy
Windows 7 upgrade versions for half price if you preorder before July
11th. So I bought some not really knowing much about it. Now I know much
about it and have regrets. <sigh>

Also after October, buying a new computer you will be getting Windows 7
most likely. So unless you buy a Linux or a Mac machine, we will have
little choice, eh?

 

[M]

In
Mint typed on Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:50:49 -0700 (PDT):

Well Andy... I was tricked. As Microsoft had a deal that you could buy
Windows 7 upgrade versions for half price if you preorder before July
11th. So I bought some not really knowing much about it. Now I know much
about it and have regrets. <sigh>

Also after October, buying a new computer you will be getting Windows 7
most likely. So unless you buy a Linux or a Mac machine, we will have
little choice, eh?

Format the hard drive drive. Install what you want. I just bought a
computer with NO operating system. I put Linux on it.

M

 

[BillW50]

In M typed on Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:13:20 +0200:

Format the hard drive drive. Install what you want. I just bought a
computer with NO operating system. I put Linux on it.

M

So if I want Windows XP, where do I find the drivers for newer hardware
when the manufactures don't bother creating any for XP?

Linux? Been there, done that. Completely useless to me. Can't even
multitask or play media very well. And it only has one hundredth the
applications that Windows does. And anybody who likes Linux is a
masochist IMHO. As why would they want to torture themselves like that?

 

[Bob I]

In M typed on Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:13:20 +0200:



So if I want Windows XP, where do I find the drivers for newer hardware
when the manufactures don't bother creating any for XP?

Linux? Been there, done that. Completely useless to me. Can't even
multitask or play media very well. And it only has one hundredth the
applications that Windows does. And anybody who likes Linux is a
masochist IMHO. As why would they want to torture themselves like that?

If the hardware manufacturer doesn't support the operating system you
wish to use, don't buy that particular hardware.

 

[BillW50]

In Bob I typed on Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:39:00 -0500:

If the hardware manufacturer doesn't support the operating system you
wish to use, don't buy that particular hardware.

And which manufactures supplies drivers for XP on their computers that
they are selling now Bob?