folders forget settings

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C. M. Grosskinsky

I use different settings when viewing folders, and on tools | folder options | view, I have checked "remember each folder's view settings."

Unfortunately, windows xp forgets my settings and reverts to some default I don't like. How can I make windows remember?

Thanks,

Clem.
 
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Lars Holm Thomsen

I use different settings when viewing folders, and on tools | folder options | view, I have checked "remember each folder's view settings."

Unfortunately, windows xp forgets my settings and reverts to some default I don't like. How can I make windows remember?

Forgot the source, but:

Sometimes you'll customize a folder (view, position, or the folder's display options) and upon restarting the changes haven't been saved.
Or, the settings work for few days and then XP forgets it?

This is due to that fact that Windows XP remembers the settings for 400 folders, by default. As and when you customize more folders (and
sub-folders), the 400 mark is reached easily and the old settings are lost, just like a System Restore point. Microsoft has introduced a
tweak (through TweakUI Powertoy), using which the 400 limit can be bypassed. Though TweakUI is a great tool, this particular function of
TweakUI does not work as it alters a different registry key. Windows XP allows a maximum of 8000 (default being 400). To prevent Windows XP
forgetting the folder folder customization, increase the limit to 5000 or till 8000, with no performance issues. From what I've heard, the
developers tested it with 10000 and for some reason made 8000 as the highest limit, which is more than sufficient.

Set the "BagMRU Size" (key) to 5000 (value as decimal) (or upto 8000) in the following registry keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam

NOTE: Always backup the registry before editing it.

Click "Decimal" and type the 'BagMRU Size' value (5000)

For more information, please see Microsoft Knowledgebase article Q813711 Titled:
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect


Workaround:

If you don't want to increase the folder cache value or want to know a temporary workaround.

Open a folder. Click Tools, Folder Options, View and click "Reset All Folders". (This resets all the folder view settings). Close the
folder. Open and customize the folder again. Click View > Apply to All Folders. Please remember, XP will tend to forget the settings once
the 400 mark is reached.


Hope it works!

Lars
 
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Kaylene aka Taurarian

Just to add, if you don't want to do the manual edit, then go to this site
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line #2 - Increase Folder View Size Limit to 8000

Instructions on how to use the files are at the top of the page.

Lars Holm Thomsen said:
Forgot the source, but:

Sometimes you'll customize a folder (view, position, or the folder's display
options) and upon restarting the changes haven't been saved.
Or, the settings work for few days and then XP forgets it?

This is due to that fact that Windows XP remembers the settings for 400
folders, by default. As and when you customize more folders (and
sub-folders), the 400 mark is reached easily and the old settings are lost,
just like a System Restore point. Microsoft has introduced a
tweak (through TweakUI Powertoy), using which the 400 limit can be bypassed.
Though TweakUI is a great tool, this particular function of
TweakUI does not work as it alters a different registry key. Windows XP allows
a maximum of 8000 (default being 400). To prevent Windows XP
forgetting the folder folder customization, increase the limit to 5000 or till
8000, with no performance issues. From what I've heard, the
developers tested it with 10000 and for some reason made 8000 as the highest
limit, which is more than sufficient.
Set the "BagMRU Size" (key) to 5000 (value as decimal) (or upto 8000) in the following registry keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam

NOTE: Always backup the registry before editing it.

Click "Decimal" and type the 'BagMRU Size' value (5000)

For more information, please see Microsoft Knowledgebase article Q813711 Titled:
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or incorrect


Workaround:

If you don't want to increase the folder cache value or want to know a temporary workaround.

Open a folder. Click Tools, Folder Options, View and click "Reset All
Folders". (This resets all the folder view settings). Close the
folder. Open and customize the folder again. Click View > Apply to All
Folders. Please remember, XP will tend to forget the settings once
 
V

*Vanguard*

Lars Holm Thomsen said in
Forgot the source, but:

Sometimes you'll customize a folder (view, position, or the folder's
display options) and upon restarting the changes haven't been saved.
Or, the settings work for few days and then XP forgets it?

This is due to that fact that Windows XP remembers the settings for
400 folders, by default. As and when you customize more folders (and
sub-folders), the 400 mark is reached easily and the old settings are
lost, just like a System Restore point. Microsoft has introduced a
tweak (through TweakUI Powertoy), using which the 400 limit can be
bypassed. Though TweakUI is a great tool, this particular function of
TweakUI does not work as it alters a different registry key. Windows
XP allows a maximum of 8000 (default being 400). To prevent Windows
XP forgetting the folder folder customization, increase the limit to
5000 or till 8000, with no performance issues. From what I've heard,
the developers tested it with 10000 and for some reason made 8000 as
the highest limit, which is more than sufficient.

Set the "BagMRU Size" (key) to 5000 (value as decimal) (or upto 8000)
in the following registry keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam

NOTE: Always backup the registry before editing it.

Click "Decimal" and type the 'BagMRU Size' value (5000)

For more information, please see Microsoft Knowledgebase article
Q813711 Titled:
Your view settings or customizations for a folder are lost or
incorrect


Workaround:

If you don't want to increase the folder cache value or want to know
a temporary workaround.

Open a folder. Click Tools, Folder Options, View and click "Reset All
Folders". (This resets all the folder view settings). Close the
folder. Open and customize the folder again. Click View > Apply to
All Folders. Please remember, XP will tend to forget the settings
once the 400 mark is reached.


Hope it works!

Lars

Actually TweakUI will add the value name to the correct registry keys
but it uses the wrong value name. It adds a value name "Bag MRU Size"
instead of "BagMRU Size".

Since I have 6,160 folders on C: and 1,322 folders on D:, for a total of
7,482 folders. So 8,000 would be enough for now. Is 8,000 really the
maximum that can be specified for BagMRU Size? While Microsoft's KB
article 813711 shows an example of upping this restriction to 5,000, it
really doesn't state a maximum value, and you or whomever you are
quoting seems to think 8,000 is the limit yet mention is made that
10,000 has been tested.

Why does Kelly's .reg file solution to this actually delete the entire
ShellNoRoam\Bags and ShellNoRoam\BagsMRU subkeys? Does the user really
have to get rid of all existing customizations that got recorded in the
registry in order to change the maximum number that can be retained?
 
D

David Candy

She's clearing corruption from the keys. It's corruption not size that is why people ask. And there are other keys that get corrupt too, specifically shellstate. Also Streams hold the default (for all objects), type default (eg the default for file folders, for control panels (even though there is only one it has a type default), My Computer, etc) and settings for removable and network drives.

Also things are stored by the path accessed, Desktop\My Comp\My Documents is different settings to Desktop\My Documents which is different to C:\D&S\User\My Documents.
 
C

C. M. Grosskinsky

Lars,

I looked up the KB article and followed the instructions, so far it's working -- thanks!

Clem.
 

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