First Vista Printer USB or Local?

[MS]

Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[John E]

Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor
addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first
printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria


I have a USB printer as my only printer under Vista Home Premium. No
problem.

John.

 

[Malke]

Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor
addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
first printer?

Certainly you can connect a printer locally (which means directly
attached to the computer) with a USB cable. Certainly you can have only
the single printer. Of course you must have the correct drivers for any
printer. Did you go to Lexmark's tech support site and get drivers for
your printer? Is your model supported in Vista?


Malke

 

[John Barnes]

Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and finish the install.
Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

Certainly it *does*.

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but
not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the
software part of the installation?

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

No.


Is there a workaround?

No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done
this successfully.

 

[Maria MS]

First I read the manual ;-))
It said: hook up keybooard, mouse, speakers, Printer on USB, Monitor and start your new machine.

It did that and the machine performs excellently.
The printer is recognized correctly by name in Device Manager but does not show up in Printermenu.
It makes dingdong sound when dis/connected.
All I see in Printers are Microsoft Office Writer? MS XPS Document Writer? One Note?
Using Add Printer does not work as nowhere I find my Lexmark to attach.

How to proceed?

Maria

 

[Maria MS]

The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other devices.
It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print for that reason.

How to proceed?

Maria




"John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and finish the install.
Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[xfile]

Hi,

Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.

Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?

http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:285:0:0

If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
said to be discountinued.

These are models compatible with Vista:

http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_1019285789_0_en,00.html

Sorry and good luck.


The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other
devices.
It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
for that reason.

How to proceed?

Maria




"John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and
finish the install.
Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor
addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[John Barnes]

If it is in other devices you haven't installed the driver correctly. Uninstall any attempt you made at installing the driver (add/remove programs). Re-check the manual for USB instructions. I have had 4 Lexmark's (thought not one at present) and you have to run the install program without the USB printer connected, connecting it when requested during the driver install portion.
If you don't want to do it the easy way, you can go into control panel /printers/add a printer and do it from there (manually)
The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other devices.
It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print for that reason.

How to proceed?

Maria




"John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and finish the install.
Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[MS]

Thank you,

Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23.

How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series) Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup??

In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a compatible driver, or not?

Curious
Maria

--


"xfile" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht | Hi,
|
| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.
|
| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?
|
| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:285:0:0
|
| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
| said to be discountinued.
|
| These are models compatible with Vista:
|
| http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_1019285789_0_en,00.html
|
| Sorry and good luck.
|
|
| | The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other
| devices.
| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
| for that reason.
|
| How to proceed?
|
| Maria
|
|
|
|
| "John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and
| finish the install.
| | Hi,
|
| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
| printer?
|
| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor
| addressable under Printers.
|
| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
| first printer?
|
| Is there a workaround?
|
| Curious,
| Maria
|
|

 

[John Barnes]

It would appear that you need to either get someone to help you set up your
current printer or buy one with Vista drivers (and make sure it has the X86
or X64 drivers that match your os {X86, I hope})

Thank you,

Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23.

How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series)
Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup??

In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a
compatible driver, or not?

Curious
Maria

--


"xfile" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| Hi,
|
| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.
|
| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?
|
| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:285:0:0
|
| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
| said to be discountinued.
|
| These are models compatible with Vista:
|
|
http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_1019285789_0_en,00.html
|
| Sorry and good luck.
|
|
| | The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under
Other
| devices.
| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
| for that reason.
|
| How to proceed?
|
| Maria
|
|
|
|
| "John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up
and
| finish the install.
| | Hi,
|
| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
| printer?
|
| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible
nor
| addressable under Printers.
|
| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
| first printer?
|
| Is there a workaround?
|
| Curious,
| Maria
|
|

 

[xfile]

I feel the pain but that happened to my HP 2610 as well until HP came out
Vista driver for it (but still required a few tweaks).

Rant: 12 years after the introduction of Plug and Play, we still can't make
simple things like this as smoothly as possible. Software still blames
hardware, and vice versa, and we are still living in DOS era as far as for
the plug & play concept goes.

Sorry but you have little alternatives other than following John Barnes's
advise.

Good luck.


Thank you,

Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23.

How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series)
Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup??

In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a
compatible driver, or not?

Curious
Maria

--


"xfile" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| Hi,
|
| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.
|
| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?
|
| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:285:0:0
|
| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
| said to be discountinued.
|
| These are models compatible with Vista:
|
|
http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_1019285789_0_en,00.html
|
| Sorry and good luck.
|
|
| | The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under
Other
| devices.
| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
| for that reason.
|
| How to proceed?
|
| Maria
|
|
|
|
| "John Barnes" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
| | Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up
and
| finish the install.
| | Hi,
|
| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
| printer?
|
| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible
nor
| addressable under Printers.
|
| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
| first printer?
|
| Is there a workaround?
|
| Curious,
| Maria
|
|

 

[Maria MS]

Just discovered Vista's Troubleshooting Centre Problems/Solutions etc.
Very helpful feature; I will look there next time ;-))

It reports 'having recognized a Lexmark Z23 etc. printer, though cannot find a suitable driver.'
Probleem met handtekening

Naam van probleemgebeurtenis: PnPDriverNotFound

Architectuur: x86

Hardware-id: USBPRINT\LexmarkLexmark_Z23-Z7FE8

Versie van besturingssysteem: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3

Landinstelling-id: 1043

Cute!
So Vista 'reads' the device properties, shows them in Device manager and made me assume it therefore had to have the driver too. Wrong.

xfile posted that unfortunately there is no Vista compatible Z23 driver available...
I will do some testing and probably hook up another printer.

Thanks all for your contributions.
Learning every day...
Maria


"MS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

 

[Guest]

Certainly it *does*.





Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the
software part of the installation?




No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done
this successfully.

Ken,
I'm an IT Professional of 20 years and have done everything right by the
manual but can't get Vista to recognize my printer, so I would venture to say
that thousands or millions of people are also experiencing problems. Remember
the little bug that killed USBs when upgrading from XP to XP professional?
I'm only glad that Microsoft acknowledges it's bugs more esily than you do!

 

[Richard Urban]

If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on every
web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?

You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As said IT
professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the printer
software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - reading the
help file this time.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Charlie Tame]

If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on
every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?

You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As
said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the
printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again -
reading the help file this time.

More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption
that any problems with Vista are the user's fault.

There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer,
the incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release
MOST users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix
what's broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't).

 

[Richard Urban]

Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
about printer support.

So, why don't you keep it on topic.

If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can not
install a printer - OH WELL!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[John Barnes]

Hear, hear.

Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
about printer support.

So, why don't you keep it on topic.

If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can
not install a printer - OH WELL!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Charlie Tame]

Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
about printer support.

So, why don't you keep it on topic.

If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can
not install a printer - OH WELL!

The topic WAS printers, the bit above here is called the "Subject"

 

[Guest]

Thanks for stepping in Charlie but there's obviously no help for some people!
There are a bunch of hotfixes for various non-existant USB problems at this
URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;936003
I haven't had time to try them but they probably won't hurt.

If anyone has useful suggestions beyond the normal troubleshooting (I've
uninstalled everything including the USB ports themselves, tried different
cables, etc.) I'd love to know. I have a 'Vista certified' Canon i860 and an
Acer Aspire 5610-4648 with Vista Home Premium and all the latest updates. It
sees the device when I connect the printer and loads the drivers but does not
create any printer instance that I can actually print to. I can manually add
a printer and change the port to USB but that doesn't do anything.