Firewire Network

[sskagent]

I have a 6 to 4 pin IEEE 1394 cable I'm trying to use in connecting a
laptop and a pc both with XP. The connection shows as being
connected(in the system tray) and everything, but in Network places
there is no sign of the other computer.
Any help in troubleshooting?
Thanks

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have a 6 to 4 pin IEEE 1394 cable I'm trying to use in connecting a
laptop and a pc both with XP. The connection shows as being
connected(in the system tray) and everything, but in Network places
there is no sign of the other computer.
Any help in troubleshooting?
Thanks

On each computer:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.

2. Right-click the IEEE 1394 connection.

3. Click Status > Support > Details and note the IP address. If you
haven't assigned an address, it should be 169.254.x.x.

4. Open a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) and ping the other
computer's IEEE 1394 IP address. For example:

ping 169.254.123.101

5. If the ping succeeds (receives four replies), you should be able to
view the other computer's shared disks and folders by typing the other
computer's IEEE 1394 IP address in the Start > Run box preceded by two
backslashes. For example:

\\169.254.123.101
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[Guest]

And if I assigned 192.168.0.x and the ping doesn't work?
I removed File & Printer Sharing and Client for Microsoft Networks... does
this affect the ping query?

 

[George Valkov]

No, it doesn`t block PING. In fact it ties your hands, be removing the
capability of both computers to share files. On the other hand you can still
install and use another way to share files like: FTP, HTTP, or a custom 3rd
party client.
If you want to use File and Printer Sharing however, you must go back to
network properties, install and enable Client for Microsoft Networks and
File and Printer Sharing.

 

[Guest]

Well, that's what I wanna do! I want to use it as a backup station with
apache, ftp and mysql backup software, so I just need a simple TCP/IP
network...

Still, the network connects but doesn't send or receive anything and the
ping time-outs.

Right now I'm looking for a sniffer for FW and so far I have found only a
demo that captures just the first command, which is Reset. I want to know
what the commands are and if the boards comunicate properly or at least to
know that the packets that are send and received at the connection mean
something.

I also tried to donwgrade the 1394 Bus Device Driver and the 1394 OpenHCI
Port Driver to SP1 as suggested by a FW card manufacturer, however it didn't
do me any good!

Sadly, I have one of those crappy DFI's and I don't know if the Southbridge,
FW controller or some other circuit is malfunctioning... so far the PS/2's
are buggy, one USB hub died last week, the southbridge gets extremely hot and
I often experience lockups... tomorrow the new board arrives... I hope this
one will work!

 

[George Valkov]

Well, that's what I wanna do! I want to use it as a backup station with
apache, ftp and mysql backup software, so I just need a simple TCP/IP
network...

I expect that the Apache server is works on a Linux platform. If so, can you
confirm that the Linux box has it's fire-wire interface up, configured as a
network interface and working?
try this command:
ifconfig

Still, the network connects but doesn't send or receive anything and the
ping time-outs.

Sorry, I have no experience with the fire-wire interface so far. I would
recommend you to buy two network adpaters (1 per computer). You can get
100Mbit/s LAN cards for about10$ each. Plus a PC-to-CP (crossed) UTP cable.

Right now I'm looking for a sniffer for FW and so far I have found only a
demo that captures just the first command, which is Reset. I want to know
what the commands are and if the boards comunicate properly or at least to
know that the packets that are send and received at the connection mean
something.

A sniffer, well, I'd recommend you a good and freeware sniffer. I don't know
if it supports fire-wire, but you can try Ethereal. There is also a Linux
version.
http://www.ethereal.com/

I also tried to donwgrade the 1394 Bus Device Driver and the 1394 OpenHCI
Port Driver to SP1 as suggested by a FW card manufacturer, however it
didn't
do me any good!

Sadly, I have one of those crappy DFI's and I don't know if the
Southbridge,
FW controller or some other circuit is malfunctioning... so far the PS/2's
are buggy, one USB hub died last week, the southbridge gets extremely hot
and
I often experience lockups... tomorrow the new board arrives... I hope
this
one will work!

Overheating means in most cases bad cooling conditions, and sometimes
problem (or by design) of the hardware it self. Can you install a radiator
and/or cooler?
By the way, tell me who are DFI, so I never buy from them?

The fan on my ATI AIW-9600XT started making a lot of noise. I can`t afford
being without my PC for a week, so I don`t use the warranty services. I
simply unplugged the power of the fan. Now the copper radiator is hot, but
the system is stable and noise-free.

 

[Guest]

I expect that the Apache server is works on a Linux platform. If so, can you
confirm that the Linux box has it's fire-wire interface up, configured as a
network interface and working?
try this command:
ifconfig

No... the Apache is on Windows. I have little experience with Linux.

Sorry, I have no experience with the fire-wire interface so far. I would
recommend you to buy two network adpaters (1 per computer). You can get
100Mbit/s LAN cards for about10$ each. Plus a PC-to-CP (crossed) UTP cable.

Well, if the FW400 won't work I will buy a regular eth card but I was hoping
to succeed so that in the future I could upgrade to FW800...

A sniffer, well, I'd recommend you a good and freeware sniffer. I don't know
if it supports fire-wire, but you can try Ethereal. There is also a Linux
version.
http://www.ethereal.com/

I tried that one, but it uses WinPcap which doesn't support the firewire
host controller.
I'm looking for something like Bus Houd...
http://www.perisoft.net/bushound/

Overheating means in most cases bad cooling conditions, and sometimes
problem (or by design) of the hardware it self. Can you install a radiator
and/or cooler?
By the way, tell me who are DFI, so I never buy from them?

I have a 120mm intake fan at the bottom front of the case and a 80mm outtake
fan at the back of the case, under the PWS... I also attached 2 thick alu
blades from burned out pws in the heatsink of the southbridge. It's cooler
now but the curious part is that other NF2 mbs don't even have a heatsink
there... take a look at an ABIT NF7 which is one of the best Socket A mbs:
http://www.hothardware.com/reviews/images/lanparty_an7/an7/motherboard.jpg

This is my DFI (http://www.dfi.com.tw/)
ttp://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/asus_a7n8x_versus_dfi_lanparty/images/01.JPG
It comes with a lot of accessories but it's not worth it!
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/dfinfiiultrab/2.html

I'll try to further downgrade the drivers to see if those manufacturers
where right... but I doubt that!

 

[George Valkov]

No... the Apache is on Windows. I have little experience with Linux.



Well, if the FW400 won't work I will buy a regular eth card but I was
hoping
to succeed so that in the future I could upgrade to FW800...



I tried that one, but it uses WinPcap which doesn't support the firewire
host controller.
I'm looking for something like Bus Houd...
http://www.perisoft.net/bushound/

1 I use Windows Server 2003 ent. There's a built-in sniffer in the
Add/Remove Windows components, there is an option to install Nework Monitor
driver and utils.
2 What about Microsoft Netmon 3 Beta2?
Try if you can apply for the beta program and download it.
https://connect.microsoft.com/