Firefox alternative?

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Harvey said:
I assume this is due not only to IE-specific code, but also to the
expanding use of XML -- but I could be wrong on that.
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Sounds nice this XML, though I have not read one page of my HTML4.01
Manual (PDF). Why care about XML.
My Favourites are HTML >=4 and CSS, 1 or 2 ... who cares, and this is
more than fullfilled with K-Meleon.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: Those Text-Rendering options from K-meleon etc., should be in the
next IE Version.
 
I assume this is due not only to IE-specific code, but also
to the expanding use of XML -- but I could be wrong on that.
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Sounds nice this XML, though I have not read one page of my
HTML4.01 Manual (PDF). Why care about XML.
My Favourites are HTML >=4 and CSS, 1 or 2 ... who cares, and
this is more than fullfilled with K-Meleon.[/QUOTE]

I've no idea about the coding stuff; sorry. All I know is that
I'm hitting more sites these days that my default KM doesn't work
on[1], and that I have to fire up FF or Opera to get them to work.
The number of such sites used to be negligible, but the it's been
increasing.

Sadly, reading the K-M forum (as I do fairly regularly), the core
project's not really being spearheaded by anyone these days, and
has fragmented into a number of versions.

I fear for the future of K-M, and have -- reluctantly -- begun to
consider what my other options will be over the next, say, year or
so.

Alas.

[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with the
Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to *exactly* how
I want it. Although they're supposed to be the dog's bollocks,
I've never really got into exploring Hao Jiang's various K-M
builds.
 
Sounds nice this XML, though I have not read one page of my
HTML4.01 Manual (PDF). Why care about XML.
My Favourites are HTML >=4 and CSS, 1 or 2 ... who cares, and
this is more than fullfilled with K-Meleon.
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I've no idea about the coding stuff; sorry. All I know is that
I'm hitting more sites these days that my default KM doesn't work
on[1], and that I have to fire up FF or Opera to get them to work.
The number of such sites used to be negligible, but the it's been
increasing.

Sadly, reading the K-M forum (as I do fairly regularly), the core
project's not really being spearheaded by anyone these days, and
has fragmented into a number of versions.[/QUOTE]

A problem that has been much discussed on the forum and several folks
are taking steps to assure the continuation of KM.
I fear for the future of K-M, and have -- reluctantly -- begun to
consider what my other options will be over the next, say, year or
so.

Alas.

[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with the
Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to *exactly* how
I want it. Although they're supposed to be the dog's bollocks,
I've never really got into exploring Hao Jiang's various K-M
builds.
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Fred's are better, imo. His 1.7.12plus2 is the best KM I've found.
Smooth, quick, and as always, ultra-configurable.
 
On 01 Dec 2005, Mike Andrade wrote
news:[email protected]:
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re: K-M builds
[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with
the Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to
*exactly* how I want it. Although they're supposed to be the
dog's bollocks, I've never really got into exploring Hao
Jiang's various K-M builds.
Click to expand...
Fred's are better, imo. His 1.7.12plus2 is the best KM I've
found. Smooth, quick, and as always, ultra-configurable.
Click to expand...

I saw those, but I can't for the life of me get them to download
from the rapidshare site.

After I click on "Free" at the bottom of the first page, it changes
to another page that notes that I've requested the file; says how
many times it's been downloaded; and does zilch apart from
offering me links to rapidshare's premium account service.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? (Or, re-worded: "How the hell do I
download Fred's latest K-M build from rapidshare's *incredibly
annoying* site?")
 
On 01 Dec 2005, Mike Andrade wrote
news:[email protected]:
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re: K-M builds
[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with
the Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to
*exactly* how I want it. Although they're supposed to be the
dog's bollocks, I've never really got into exploring Hao
Jiang's various K-M builds.
Click to expand...
Fred's are better, imo. His 1.7.12plus2 is the best KM I've
found. Smooth, quick, and as always, ultra-configurable.
Click to expand...

I saw those, but I can't for the life of me get them to download
from the rapidshare site.

After I click on "Free" at the bottom of the first page, it changes
to another page that notes that I've requested the file; says how
many times it's been downloaded; and does zilch apart from
offering me links to rapidshare's premium account service.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? (Or, re-worded: "How the hell do I
download Fred's latest K-M build from rapidshare's *incredibly
annoying* site?")
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For anyone wanting a direct download of KM version:
K-Meleon0.9-original-updated-1.7.12-plus4.exe (latest).

Please feel free to download direct from my site/server:
http://encoderx.co.uk/id.php?K-Meleon0.9-original-updated-1.7.12-plus4.exe

Hope this helps
 
On 01 Dec 2005, Mike Andrade wrote
news:[email protected]:
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re: K-M builds
[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with
the Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to
*exactly* how I want it. Although they're supposed to be the
dog's bollocks, I've never really got into exploring Hao
Jiang's various K-M builds.
Click to expand...
Fred's are better, imo. His 1.7.12plus2 is the best KM I've
found. Smooth, quick, and as always, ultra-configurable.
Click to expand...

I saw those, but I can't for the life of me get them to download
from the rapidshare site.

After I click on "Free" at the bottom of the first page, it changes
to another page that notes that I've requested the file; says how
many times it's been downloaded; and does zilch apart from
offering me links to rapidshare's premium account service.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? (Or, re-worded: "How the hell do I
download Fred's latest K-M build from rapidshare's *incredibly
annoying* site?")
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If you look closely at that page after clicking on "free," you'll see
all the information you mentioned /as well as/ a timer saying you
have to wait something like 22 seconds and it will count down. After
the wait, it gives you the link to download the file. The wait is
simply to annoy you enough to pay for the premium service. It's not
annoying enough for me :)

If you cannot get it to work, I can email it to you if you
prefer...or post it to the freeware binaries group. Just say the
word.
 
Warning! Don't click on FEDZ link for downloading! Norton reports 4
Trojans! Mcafee as well. [Trojan.ByteVerify & Downloader.Trojan]
 
On 01 Dec 2005, Mike Andrade wrote
On 01 Dec 2005, Mike Andrade wrote
news:[email protected]:
Click to expand...

re: K-M builds
[1]The version I use is the standard release -- 0.9 -- with
the Gecko engine updated to 1.7.12 and the UI tweaked to
*exactly* how I want it. Although they're supposed to be
the dog's bollocks, I've never really got into exploring
Hao Jiang's various K-M builds.

Fred's are better, imo. His 1.7.12plus2 is the best KM I've
found. Smooth, quick, and as always, ultra-configurable.
Click to expand...

I saw those, but I can't for the life of me get them to
download from the rapidshare site.

After I click on "Free" at the bottom of the first page, it
changes to another page that notes that I've requested the
file; says how many times it's been downloaded; and does
zilch apart from offering me links to rapidshare's premium
account service.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? (Or, re-worded: "How the
hell do I download Fred's latest K-M build from rapidshare's
*incredibly annoying* site?")
Click to expand...
If you look closely at that page after clicking on "free,"
you'll see all the information you mentioned /as well as/ a
timer saying you have to wait something like 22 seconds and it
will count down. After the wait, it gives you the link to
download the file. The wait is simply to annoy you enough to
pay for the premium service. It's not annoying enough for me
:)

If you cannot get it to work, I can email it to you if you
prefer...or post it to the freeware binaries group. Just say
the word.
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Thanks, Mike -- it worked this time.

I don't know what was up previously -- I definitely wouldn't have
missed the counter, as that was where I kept staring to see if
there was another button to click. Probably server congestion.>

Got it now, though -- I'll give it a go: I've downloaded the
zipped file for his latest "test" version, which is No. 5.

(Rapidshare's a pretty ugly site, though....)
 
NebuR said:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, where are your manners? Not used to discussion
and disagreement, and a wee bit lonely, I presume. Pehaps you could
form your own club: The Rude Buggers.

NebuR
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Amen. Really pitiful.
 
Warning! Don't click on FEDZ link for downloading! Norton reports 4
Trojans! Mcafee as well. [Trojan.ByteVerify & Downloader.Trojan]
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I have Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal - latest AV updates.

Reports no dangerous objects.

To be safe I downloaded again from my site and scanned - same result -
passed by KAVp.

To be safe I have scanned with online trend micro and McAfee = no problems
with the file!

The downloaded given is the exact copy of the one I downloaded only 6 hours
ago from the original site.

** If anyone else reports this as a Virus can you please post reply here **

Deeply appreciated :)

Hope this helps
 
I am, though, finding that more and more sites are not working with
KM. What usually happens with these is that I click on a link, and
nothing happens -- but it's not an IE-specific thing, as the sites
work in FF and Opera. (XML or something? Dunno.)
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I dunno either, but it might help to update K-Meleon to use the latest
Gecko. Worth a try, I guess, if you haven't already done it.

<http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?id=KmeleonUpdate>
 
Sadly, reading the K-M forum (as I do fairly regularly), the core
project's not really being spearheaded by anyone these days, and
has fragmented into a number of versions.
Click to expand...

Which is the main reason I don't use it. Firefox is scrupulous about
patching bugs. When was the last time K-Meleon was patched?
I fear for the future of K-M, and have -- reluctantly -- begun to
consider what my other options will be over the next, say, year or
so.
Click to expand...

I'm keeping an eye on Seamonkey. At least there is no corporate tie in with
that. It's basically Mozilla 1.8 at this point.
 
elaich said:
Anybody who believes in such a thing as cash with no ties is a
bigger one.
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And this is why you started avoiding Firefox when AOL gave them a
couple million a few years ago? ;)
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote in @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
"Please feel free to download direct from my site/server:
http://encoderx.co.uk/id.php?K-Meleon0.9-original-updated-1.7.12-plus...
"

** If anyone else reports this as a Virus can you please post reply
here **

Avast gave me the same warning earlier today.
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Thanks for reply - appreciated :)

This is getting strange!

I've just scanned again with a further 3 (now 5 in total) on-line anti-
virus sites and not one plus my Kaspersky (updated every 3 hours) reports
this KM build as a virus ...

If anyone in the know is reading - are these false positive reports from:
Norton, McAfee and Avast?

I'll also post to alt.comp.anti-virus.

Thank you
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote in @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Thanks for reply - appreciated :)

This is getting strange!

I've just scanned again with a further 3 (now 5 in total) on-line
anti- virus sites and not one plus my Kaspersky (updated every 3
hours) reports this KM build as a virus ...

If anyone in the know is reading - are these false positive reports
from: Norton, McAfee and Avast?
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First: I never saw my reply come up, my apologies if it does/did turn up
and this is a double post.
AVG (updated) reported nothing.
 
OT: Very nice site. Some of my favorites listed. (Kaufman, oh Kaufman, why
did you stop programming ?)
 
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