File sorting issue, XP loss of function that was found in Win98

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Guest

Here's a thought - CHANGE!!!!!! Get off your stubborn mule and adapt to a different ( maybe better, maybe worse) way of doing things. Its people like you that keep the wheels of motion locked up. I've read posts and replys about......nothing.

Lace up and move on with life.
 
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Shawna

It sure would be great to get some support on this
matter. I wish I knew how to troubleshoot this.

Surely I am not the only one who goes searching for recent
files many many times a day.

We have many view settings but in all those settings we've
lost the most useful setting.

I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
it's by poor design.

Kelly, You indicated that you would look into it. Did you
find anything?

WINDOWS XP FILE SORTING PROBLEM

Much appreciated,
Shawna
 
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Shawna

If you can make WinXP put it's most recent files next to
the folders as in my SCREEN SHOT #1, please send me your
screen shot.
If you can't, doesn't that suck?

http://321.0catch.com/Screenshots.htm

I'm hoping to create a group of people who are interested
in seeing this problem resolved. I do not have the
technical skills to resolve it.
My hope is that some how, some way we will find somebody
who can resolve it.
If nothing else, Sheer numbers may impress MS to see that
it gets resolved.

I have never done this before so any ideas would be
appreciated.
Surely there is a suggestion box email address for MS.

It's not IQ, it's "I will".

Shawna
(e-mail address removed)
 
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Shawna

Give it up, Shawna.

Forgive my ignorance please Kelly,
Are you saying that this is the end of the line and that
there is no hope to resolve this problem?
If this were a very important problem for you, would
you "give it up" at this point?
Do you have a suggestion of what I may do to resolve this
aside from "giving it up"?
This is not just a passing interest for me.
Thanks in advance,
Shawna
 
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Steve Shattuck

Shawna said:
If you can make WinXP put it's most recent files next to
the folders as in my SCREEN SHOT #1, please send me your
screen shot.
If you can't, doesn't that suck?

http://321.0catch.com/Screenshots.htm

Be aware that this SCUMBAG has setup this web page to install a backdoor on your computer if you access this URL. This has NOTHING to do with a suggested change to explorer. In fact the length of the page is to keep you there long enough for the script to install the backdoor silently. Hope everyone that went to this site has a GOOD firewall or your systems are now infected.
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Why not simply select Explorer's Details view, and sort by date?
Seems straight-forward enough to me. Anyway, most people already know
where they save their files, so they don't usually have to search for
them.

Bruce Chambers

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having both at once. -- RAH
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

If you want an OS like Win98, why don't you use Win98? Can't even
imagine why you'd think the two operating systems would. or should, be
the same.

Bruce Chambers

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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Right you are, Steve. Thank for the heads-up. But why didn't you
snip the URL to reduce its propagation?

Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


If you can make WinXP put it's most recent files next to
the folders as in my SCREEN SHOT #1, please send me your
screen shot.
If you can't, doesn't that suck?

Be aware that this SCUMBAG has setup this web page to install a
backdoor on your computer if you access this URL. This has NOTHING to
do with a suggested change to explorer. In fact the length of the
page is to keep you there long enough for the script to install the
backdoor silently. Hope everyone that went to this site has a GOOD
firewall or your systems are now infected.
 
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Shawna

Argggh again,
NO NO NO, I am not loading back door anything, If anything
IS loading, it's coming from 0catch.com.
I use a popup blocker, I only get an ad at the top added
in.
They give free web space but they put there own ads on
your page.
That is at:
http://321.0catch.com/Screenshots.htm

I also have an alternate site that has no such ads but I
have limited access to it so I can't keep it updated.
It's at
http://www.scn.org/~bb523/Screenshots.htm

The page is long because I have documented a lot of my
attempt at getting this problem resolved.
Most people misunderstand what I am looking for so I put
up some pictures to explain the problem.

If you can direct me to a free, easy to use website, I
would use it instead.
Shawna


-----Original Message-----


Be aware that this SCUMBAG has setup this web page to
install a backdoor on your computer if you access this
URL. This has NOTHING to do with a suggested change to
explorer. In fact the length of the page is to keep you
there long enough for the script to install the backdoor
silently. Hope everyone that went to this site has a GOOD
firewall or your systems are now infected.
 
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Shawna

Hi Bruce,
I don't think they should be the same. I only think that
the newer OS should not be worse than the old on important
stuff. I take it you have not read the specifics to this
problem.
Regards,
Shawna
 
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Shawna

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion, I'm sorry if my last message
was not complete enough for you to understand what I am
looking for in full.

I wish to see BOTH the folders and the most recent files
at the top of the list as you can with win98, win95,
Norton commander and others but not WinXP

If you manage enough files this would be important to have.
I don't expect you to make my problems yours, but if there
is a way to do it, I would sure like to know how.

Regards,
Shawna
 
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Malke

Shawna said:
Hi Bruce,
I don't think they should be the same. I only think that
the newer OS should not be worse than the old on important
stuff. I take it you have not read the specifics to this
problem.
Regards,
Shawna

Shawna, as Bruce said above: if you want your OS to perform like Win98,
just use Win98. XP doesn't do what you want. End of story. Drop MS a
note on their Wishlist and move on. If you want complete fine-grained
control over your operating system and the shell and don't want Win98,
then try any one of the Linux distros. I can make my folders and files
do anything I want (SUSE 9.0 Pro). The files are also displayed
satisfactorily for me on my XP box, so whatever the way the os works is
OK for me. If it isn't good for you, then don't use XP. Posting over
and over about this issue isn't going to change anything.

Best of luck,

Malke
 
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mrtee

I gave you a solution http://www.v-com.com/product/pd_free_trial.html try it. Also do as Kelly suggested several times.

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Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
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| Hi Bruce,
| I don't think they should be the same. I only think that
| the newer OS should not be worse than the old on important
| stuff. I take it you have not read the specifics to this
| problem.
| Regards,
| Shawna
 
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Kelly

Shawna,

This post of yours has been going on for days now, cross posted to six
groups. You even started a new thread. I have no further suggestions to
offer at this time, other than my previous message and/or to take it up with
MS.
 
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pgriffet

Shawna said:
It sure would be great to get some support on this

I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
it's by poor design.
Then try Total Commander and qui Explorer :D

TC is a great software which does the job of many others and that's
for me really important. I was a Norton Commander user since 1986
and perhaps am I looking for a tool which is in the same spirit.
Since I use it, I've got rid of Winzip, Quickviewplus, TheRename
and other programs, I never use Explorer anymore.
TC uses an ini file and does not clobber your registry.
It performs so many additional functions that you can remove
several megs of other programs that are no longer needed.
TC is available at http://www.ghisler.com ,
shareware with one nag screen at startup but fully functional,
works with all Windows (from 3.1 to XP, all 32-bit but the 3.1 version).
No garbage in the registry.


- Dual pane File-management interface
- Integrated compression/decompressions of ZIP, CAB, ARJ, RAR, ACE archives
- Integrated FTP client
- File/Directory/FTP Comparisons and Synchronization's.
- Support for Network and Parallel-port (laplink) Connections.
- Support for connection to other Files Systems like Linux EXT2 and PocketPC.
- Support for SFV/MD5 CRC-checksums Creation/Validation
- Support for File Encoding/Decoding: MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHEX
- Support for File Comments: descript.ion, files.bbs
- Integrated Multi-rename Tool
- Integrated File Viewer (Lister)
- Multi-language interface
- Additional plugins for more Archive, File systems and Lister support

The last version has tabbed interface, like in MyIE2 or Mozilla, very useful.

Pierre.
 
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Michel

David Candy said:
By this the 98 way is wrong. If a user reverses the sort order then one
would expect the whole list to reverse, not just files.

Folders are not files. When sorting files, the best place for folders is on
top.

Sort order should logically be :
- First
Folders, sorted by name/date/ or what you have selected inthe current view
- Second
Files, sorted by by name/date/ or what you have selected inthe current view

That is the way we all know since 15 years. Why should we change because
someone at MS decided it would be best for all newby (sure he/she was a
newby himself, ignoring a so old tradition) ?

Perhaps most average "john doe" people doesn't see the difference. But most
"power users" noticed it. And regret the classical way. For this kind of
change it should be a setting allowing us to choose.
 

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