File bigger than 4 GB in a FAT patiton

[Tom]

Yet, when you make the mistakes you do, and people call you down on it, your defense is to use the ones who defends you by copying and pasting quotes from them to your advantage. But, you NEVER admit when you make a mistake, and that is where you don't walk the MILE!

I will back SteveN here to an extent, that you do tend to follow how much you can post, rather than make quality replies, by your simple read and react responses. You are being very simplistic and extremely presumptuous, if you think most cannot tell you make many of your replies based on reading and reacting to the subject lines, as opposed to actually reading the posts. I know you won't reply, but I still feel you are the worst MVP here, and you only got it, because you hung around so long, that someone finally just gave in.

I've seen many deserving MVPs here get there titles in much less time than you, because of the accuracy of their replies, and their knowledge base, and not out of some sycophantic method you obviate here and have in the years you've been attempting to help here. Of course, like Ed Thompson, I will probably get flamed by MVPs, because they defend their own, and not out of really being correct.

To summarize this off-topic thread:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve, you do have sort of a point, but the way you're going at
it only makes YOU look more like the problem. Offensive attacks
are seldom positive events. You've forgotten the "walk a mile
..." principle, I think.

Regards,

Pop

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Carey gave a straight answer to a simple question, there's nothing wrong
with that. No further information was requested. Sometimes that's all the
info the poster is looking for. A post like that would have incurred a
similar answer from most people, including myself.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have used the MVP's Home Sites a lot, in particular Kelly's and would have
been stuck without them.

I have been working with PC's for nearly 20 years but I do not know even 5%
of what I would like to.

Theses guys/gals still do a great job and deserve what I believe to be
"Constructive Criticism", not told where to go or how to.

Keep up the good work people because I am sure there are large numbers of
users out who would agree with me.

Cheers

Bud

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't know what crawled up SteveN's lower tract, but his reply to the OP was
no more or less helpful than Carey's.
With over 1000 posts in this newsgroup alone, fielding even a fraction of
the redundant posts often requires the use of boilerplate replies.
What makes a post with Boilerplate/Cup & Paste info less helpfull if it
fixes the problem than one typed in real time with essentially the same info
to each and every one of the thousands of posts?
My answer is none that I can see.
Plus the fact that most of the posts from the web based format [CDO] rarely
even reach the OP. Sometimes you want to put out a feeler to see if any
time NEEDS to be spent helping a user on a one to one basis for a question
that has been answered a thousand times already.

Carey's occasional posting of information due to misunderstanding the
posters often impossible to understand post is miniscule compared to the
posts where he hits the mark.

Now if SteveN complained that after the OP replied the initial info was of
no help and they were ignored, treated rudely or given bad information in
subsequent posts, I would respect SteveN's beef, but with his above posts,
he deserves no respect or creditability.
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't always agree with Carey, but he gave the right answer, and he gave
the right length answer. As he has pointed out, he had been following this
user from another post, so he knew that no further information was needed.

If Carey, or anyone else for that matter, gives a bum answer, I have no
problem with correcting it. Either I will reply directly to Carey if the
information is dead wrong or harmful, or post in addition to him if I feel
there is a better way or alternate answer. I would expect the same treatment
if I give a bum answer.

Often times, a short answer is all I will post if the questioner has not
provided much information. Sometimes the underlying problem is obvious, but
just as often it is not. Without sufficient details, it's just a guessing
game. This time Carey had the details, and a short answer was all that was
needed.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

My mistake is to take time to reply to a totally irrelevant thread
such as this. I would much rather pursue helping others who
have a sincere desire to get the most from their Windows XP
eXPerience. Some folks, such as yourself, offer very little support
assistance to those in need of help. Instead, you would rather
troll the newsgroups and completely abuse the helpful intent of the
newsgroup. I would encourage you to read and follow the
"Rules of Conduct" before posting anything in the future:

Rules of Conduct:

Appropriate Language: The purpose of our communities is to exchange technical
information and expertise about Microsoft products. Please avoid personal attacks,
slurs, and profanity in your interactions.

Microsoft Newsgroup Rules of Conduct
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx#XSLTsection124121120120

How to Make a Good Newsgroup Post
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

Yet, when you make the mistakes you do, and people call you down on it, your defense is to use the ones who defends you by copying
and pasting quotes from them to your advantage. But, you NEVER admit when you make a mistake, and that is where you don't walk the
MILE!

I will back SteveN here to an extent, that you do tend to follow how much you can post, rather than make quality replies, by your
simple read and react responses. You are being very simplistic and extremely presumptuous, if you think most cannot tell you make
many of your replies based on reading and reacting to the subject lines, as opposed to actually reading the posts. I know you won't
reply, but I still feel you are the worst MVP here, and you only got it, because you hung around so long, that someone finally just
gave in.

I've seen many deserving MVPs here get there titles in much less time than you, because of the accuracy of their replies, and their
knowledge base, and not out of some sycophantic method you obviate here and have in the years you've been attempting to help here.
Of course, like Ed Thompson, I will probably get flamed by MVPs, because they defend their own, and not out of really being correct.

 

[Steve N.]

In

Carey Frisch [ID10T] wrote:

No, it is a limitation of the FAT32 file system.

You might as well ask the OP if the computer will fit through the
nearest open window so he can toss it out.

snipped the accompanying BS

Steve

Sorry Steve - your attitude would preclude you from being anything more than
the moronic ass that you are.

I know what my attitude and my intentions were even if you can't
perceive them. My underlying protest concerning Carey's reply habits
stands, even though I admit I was a bit over the edge about it. His
record speaks for itself, and in this case once again Carey was clearly
mistaken as evidenced by the OP's reply to my answer to his original
question (which I have quoted in this thread a couple of times).

Will Carey ever admit to being wrong? Only time will tell, but I doubt
it. Earlier in this thread I pointed out his error in assumptions and
just like many times in the past when someone points out his errors, he
doesn't even bother to acknowledge it. He gets called on his mistakes
repeatedly by many people and never cops to them. Therefore I and
several others are left to surmise that he lacks a sense of
responsibility that one would hope to be associated with MVP status.

Carey assumed he knew what the OP was talking about and he was wrong. I
just happened to catch him at it early in the thread.

Steve

 

[Tom]

Where did I make a personal attack (I only made what is observation of you)? Being sycophantic isn't an attack, nor is it namecalling. You don't want me to show the forum here what you *thought* sycophant meant at one time do you (they would LOL)? while you post a link on how to make a good posy, maybe you should get a grasp on making relevant replies, and learning porper grammar and implrove your vocabulary, to avoid your embarrassing moments!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Steves's comment: "His record speaks for itself...."

Carey's comment: "Thank you for acknowleding my record!"

Microsoft MVP (Most Valuable Professional) Program Focus:

"The MVP Program is focused on relationships to and with customers via
online and offline communities. The program celebrates our best, most
active customers who have demonstrated a technical passion and willingness
to share their expertise with others."

"Microsoft's Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are recognized, credible,
and accessible individuals with expertise in one or more Microsoft products
who actively participate in online and offline communities to share their knowledge
and expertise with other Microsoft customers. Customers want an enriched pool of
knowledge and real-life experience to tap for advice and feedback. MVPs are helping
to satisfy this need by independently enabling customers in both online and offline
technical communities. Customer feedback is vital to product development and R&D.
The MVPs represent an important part of this feedback loop by providing another link
for Microsoft to listen to the customer."

"The Most Valuable Professional Program is the way that Microsoft formally acknowledges
the accomplishments of these individuals for their contributions to community. It is focused
on fostering a vibrant global community where Microsoft and customers learn about each other t
hrough valued ongoing relationships. The key strategies the program employs are:


-- Recognize and engage with MVPs worldwide-Identify, enable, and empower community
influencers through a consistent quality customer relationship with Microsoft that spans product
groups, services, and field organizations.

-- Improve customer connection and satisfaction-Recognize more customers for their efforts and
improve the quality of the experience on their turf and in their language.

-- Drive program excellence-Professionalize services, customer offerings, and worldwide roles
and responsibilities to become more predictable and accountable to both internal and external
Microsoft community customers.

The MVP Program, in existence for over ten years, is represented by approximately 2,500 MVPs
in 87 countries."

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

| I know what my attitude and my intentions were even if you can't
| perceive them. My underlying protest concerning Carey's reply habits
| stands, even though I admit I was a bit over the edge about it. His
| record speaks for itself, and in this case once again Carey was clearly
| mistaken as evidenced by the OP's reply to my answer to his original
| question (which I have quoted in this thread a couple of times).
|
| Will Carey ever admit to being wrong? Only time will tell, but I doubt
| it. Earlier in this thread I pointed out his error in assumptions and
| just like many times in the past when someone points out his errors, he
| doesn't even bother to acknowledge it. He gets called on his mistakes
| repeatedly by many people and never cops to them. Therefore I and
| several others are left to surmise that he lacks a sense of
| responsibility that one would hope to be associated with MVP status.
|
| Carey assumed he knew what the OP was talking about and he was wrong. I
| just happened to catch him at it early in the thread.
|
| Steve

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Tom's "embarrassing moment":

"...while you post a link on how to make a good posy, maybe you
should get a grasp on making relevant replies, and learning porper
grammar and implrove your vocabulary, to avoid your embarrassing
moments!"

Reply:

Quite humorous....your misspelling! How could anyone
take your comments seriously?

-- "good posy" (sic)
-- "porper grammer" (sic)
-- "implrove your vocabulary" (sic)

LOL!

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

Where did I make a personal attack (I only made what is observation of you)? Being sycophantic isn't an attack, nor is it
namecalling. You don't want me to show the forum here what you *thought* sycophant meant at one time do you (they would LOL)? while
you post a link on how to make a good posy, maybe you should get a grasp on making relevant replies, and learning porper grammar and
implrove your vocabulary, to avoid your embarrassing moments!

 

[GRL]

Thank you again, Steve. Actually, Norton Ghost 2003, the one I have, is able
to manage a NTFS fs. So, my problem is solved, using your suggestion to
convert the fs.
Regards.
Giovanni

 

[Ron Bogart]

In

In

Carey Frisch [ID10T] wrote:


No, it is a limitation of the FAT32 file system.


You might as well ask the OP if the computer will fit through the
nearest open window so he can toss it out.

snipped the accompanying BS

Steve

Sorry Steve - your attitude would preclude you from being anything
more than the moronic ass that you are.

I know what my attitude and my intentions were even if you can't
perceive them. My underlying protest concerning Carey's reply habits
stands, even though I admit I was a bit over the edge about it. His
record speaks for itself, and in this case once again Carey was
clearly mistaken as evidenced by the OP's reply to my answer to his
original question (which I have quoted in this thread a couple of
times).
Will Carey ever admit to being wrong? Only time will tell, but I doubt
it. Earlier in this thread I pointed out his error in assumptions and
just like many times in the past when someone points out his errors,
he doesn't even bother to acknowledge it. He gets called on his
mistakes repeatedly by many people and never cops to them. Therefore
I and several others are left to surmise that he lacks a sense of
responsibility that one would hope to be associated with MVP status.

Carey assumed he knew what the OP was talking about and he was wrong.
I just happened to catch him at it early in the thread.

Steve

While you may know what your intentions were, your actions are preventing
your goal from being achieved. Your personal attacks do nothing but draw
attention to yourself and not to the issue. If you feel Carey's answer is
incorrect, then feel free to offer what you feel is better or more precise
advice in it's stead.
My reply to you was based not only on the outwardly abusive way you chose to
make your point made, but by the statement "Maybe if I repost this a hundred
times I'll get to be an MVP, too!" The award does apply to the amount of
posts made, but also by the accuracy and helpfulness of the posts.
I would ask that if you feel Carey is not doing his job, then prove it so by
providing better advice in a consistent and continual basis.
Thanks for listening - I will go back to my participation in other threads
as I feel this one died near the third post in it.

 

[Steve N.]

To summarize this off-topic thread:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve, you do have sort of a point, but the way you're going at
it only makes YOU look more like the problem. Offensive attacks
are seldom positive events. You've forgotten the "walk a mile
..." principle, I think.

Regards,

Pop

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Carey gave a straight answer to a simple question, there's nothing wrong
with that. No further information was requested. Sometimes that's all the
info the poster is looking for. A post like that would have incurred a
similar answer from most people, including myself.

Summarize? Off-topic? In who's opinion? Yours? If you're going to
"summarize" then do so fairly.

Do you honestly believe you can hide behind that MVP title, quote one
out of context reply of another MVP and feel justified in your defense
at the expense of truth and accuracy? If so, I pity you. You obviously
can't admit you're wrong even when caught red-handed. What kind of an
MVP does that?

This a lame attempt at self-justification at best, and is absolutely
meaningless to anyone who can follow this thread and actually THINK
LOGICALLY about it.

Did you even bother to read to OP's reply to my response. He wasn't
talking about WinME at all, as it turns out he was talking about an
external FAT32 formatted drive connected to a WinXP NTFS system - or did
you happen to conveniently miss that bit of salient information? I
couldn't help but notice the conspicuous lack of a reply from you in
that section of this thread when confronted with this:

Thank you Steve. My question is related to the use of an external IOMEGA
drive (80 GB) FAT32 partitioned. I use this drive to store files -and I'd
like to write files bigger than 4 GB on it- and to backup my system
(WinXPSP1 NTFS) HD partition with Norton Ghost. I knew the limit of FAT32
and the possibility to convert it in a NTFS fs, but I don't want to do it
because in that case Norton Ghost is unable to run (to write the backup on
that drive). I hoped to find some way to bypass this limit. That's all.
Giovanni

However, you prematurely assumed this:

Because in an earlier post, in a different newsgroup,
the same OP asked:

"I'm trying to send a 20GB win media file to another PC running ME".

Windows ME cannot run on a NTFS file system.

-- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User

Face it Carey, you've been caught with your pants down once again.
Copy-paste-copy-paste all you want to, you refuse to address the issue,
which may I remind you, is that you were WRONG about in the first and
second places and what you initially replied was not helpful in the
least. You assumed you knew what the OP was talking about based upon
some completely unrelated post by the same person in a different
newsgroup about an entirely different issue, and you gave a one shot,
over-simplified "No" answer without offering any additional advice about
the possibility of converting FAT32 drive to NTFS (which I did offer,
BTW), nor asking for additional details concerning the OP's specific
situation.

Thank you for once again confirming many of our suspicions; you are
inattentive and repeatedly supply information either incomplete,
inaccurate, or based upon mistaken assumptions, often all at the same time.

FWIW, a simple, "Sorry folks, I was mistaken." would've sufficed. An
honorable person can admit when they are wrong. Hell, if I can do that
then ANYONE can! Apparently your pride overrules your honesty and you
consider yourself far above that sort of thing. If that is truly the
case then I pity you for having such arrogance, I sincerely do.

FWIW, I apologoze for being over the edge with you in the first place,
but come on, Carey, you were wrong and you NEVER admit it when you're
wrong. Other MVPs admit it when they are wrong. What makes you so special?

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

My mistake is to take time to reply to a totally irrelevant thread
such as this.

Since when is accuracy, truth and honesy irrelevant? You sound like a
cornered politician.

I would much rather pursue helping others who
have a sincere desire to get the most from their Windows XP
eXPerience.

Too bad you fail at that so often. Has it ever occurred to you that
maybe all these folks complaining about you might actually heve a reason
to do so? Do you live in a bubble or in you're own little world of
"Carey's always right"?

Some folks, such as yourself, offer very little support
assistance to those in need of help. Instead, you would rather
troll the newsgroups and completely abuse the helpful intent of the
newsgroup.

The helpful intent of the newsgroup is not in question, however YOUR
helpful intent is.

I would encourage you to read and follow the
"Rules of Conduct" before posting anything in the future:

Rules of Conduct:

Appropriate Language: The purpose of our communities is to exchange technical
information and expertise about Microsoft products. Please avoid personal attacks,
slurs, and profanity in your interactions.

Let's get this straight, so...

"Some folks, such as yourself, offer very little support assistance to
those in need of help. Instead, you would rather troll the newsgroups
and completely abuse the helpful intent of the newsgroup."

.... doesn't amount to a personal attack or a slur?

Oh, and what about that...

"technical information and expertise about Microsoft products"

Wouldn't informing someone of the possible option to covert a FAT32
partition to NTFS to overcome the 4GB file size limitaion(which was the
original issue, might I remind you) that you mistakenly negelected to
mention in the first place in this thread qualify?

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

Thank you again, Steve. Actually, Norton Ghost 2003, the one I have, is able
to manage a NTFS fs. So, my problem is solved, using your suggestion to
convert the fs.
Regards.
Giovanni

I am glad my suggestion solved your dillemna.

Happy computing!

Steve

 

[Tom]

None of the criteria you posted remotely applies to you!

 

[Steve N.]

To summarize this off-topic thread:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Steve, you do have sort of a point, but the way you're going at
it only makes YOU look more like the problem. Offensive attacks
are seldom positive events. You've forgotten the "walk a mile
..." principle, I think.

Regards,

Pop

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Carey gave a straight answer to a simple question, there's nothing wrong
with that. No further information was requested. Sometimes that's all the
info the poster is looking for. A post like that would have incurred a
similar answer from most people, including myself.

Here's the REAL summary:

I am glad my suggestion solved your dillemna.

Happy computing!

Steve

`Nuff said.

Steve

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Yes Steve, you are correct. In this instance, my original
reply to the OP was not as thorough as it should have been.
Honestly, your answer was the better one! My sincere
apologies for not offering a more thorough reply.

Now, can we just move on and help some folks who
really need some help? The OP has solved his issue,
thanks to your outstanding ability to offer a solution
that I should have offered in the first place!

And personally, thank you for some of the advice
that will indeed help with my postings in the future!

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
|
| > My mistake is to take time to reply to a totally irrelevant thread
| > such as this.
|
| Since when is accuracy, truth and honesy irrelevant? You sound like a
| cornered politician.
|
| > I would much rather pursue helping others who
| > have a sincere desire to get the most from their Windows XP
| > eXPerience.
|
| Too bad you fail at that so often. Has it ever occurred to you that
| maybe all these folks complaining about you might actually heve a reason
| to do so? Do you live in a bubble or in you're own little world of
| "Carey's always right"?
|
| > Some folks, such as yourself, offer very little support
| > assistance to those in need of help. Instead, you would rather
| > troll the newsgroups and completely abuse the helpful intent of the
| > newsgroup.
|
| The helpful intent of the newsgroup is not in question, however YOUR
| helpful intent is.
|
| > I would encourage you to read and follow the
| > "Rules of Conduct" before posting anything in the future:
| >
| > Rules of Conduct:
| >
| > Appropriate Language: The purpose of our communities is to exchange technical
| > information and expertise about Microsoft products. Please avoid personal attacks,
| > slurs, and profanity in your interactions.
|
| Let's get this straight, so...
|
| "Some folks, such as yourself, offer very little support assistance to
| those in need of help. Instead, you would rather troll the newsgroups
| and completely abuse the helpful intent of the newsgroup."
|
| ... doesn't amount to a personal attack or a slur?
|
| Oh, and what about that...
|
| "technical information and expertise about Microsoft products"
|
| Wouldn't informing someone of the possible option to covert a FAT32
| partition to NTFS to overcome the 4GB file size limitaion(which was the
| original issue, might I remind you) that you mistakenly negelected to
| mention in the first place in this thread qualify?
|
| Steve
|

 

[Tom]

LOL, we have a "spelling lame", back pedal defense as usual! Want me to post your reply to what you though "sycophant" meant, without you ever looking up the definition? I can point an array of poor grammar by you. While an occasional misspelling happens from time to time, your poor grammar happens quite often.

You call me on being taken seriously for ONE misspelled word, while you feel you should be taken seriously for your poor grammar, as well as your inability to admit mistakes and read posts for their actual content and queries!

But anyway, I will post your embarrassing moment, when you improperly accused me of "Improper English", when you should have meant wrong terminology, in which case was neither on my part; it was yours for not using dictionary, and saying "improper English" (which is AKA as bad grammar, not bad vocabulary) for using a word you didn't understand!

Here's your goof for all to see, and will you admit a mistake here?
http://tinyurl.com/6sdor

Quite humorous, your grammar, and lack of terminology, as well as your inability to properly read posts and reply, while you feel you should be taken seriously as an MVP!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Well then darn it....guess I should return my MVP credentials
to Steve Ballmer and let him know you said so.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

 

[Tom]

And to think, all you had to do was be man enough in the beginning of this thread to do what you just did. But honestly, do you think your sincerity now is to be taken seriously, when you couldn't admit it the first, second, third or fourth time?

 

[Steve N.]

Steves's comment: "His record speaks for itself...."

Carey's comment: "Thank you for acknowleding my record!"

That's not YOUR record. That is a goal you are supposed to try to live
up to. In your mind do you really equate yourself to such a lofty
position as described below? If so, then you truly ARE delusional,
because your posting record here, in THIS newsgroup, sure says something
different, and in case you haven't noticed I'm not the only one saying
so, either.

Too bad you can't seem to quite hit the mark here, but keep trying. I
have actually seen you do the job right a time or three and I've even
said so in your defense in the past, so I know you can do it.

Too bad you also continuously skirt the issues brought before you and
can never admit when you have been wrong. That, above all, troubles me
the most.

Look, Carey, I'm not really trying to attack you personally, but
dog-gone it, you have got some really bad habits and I and others have
tried in various ways to point them out to you. Are you really so dense
and/or egotistical to summarily dismiss such criticisms without
considering that some of them may actually have valid points that you
might be able to learn something from and (heaven forbid!) actually
IMPROVE your performance here? Come on! Nobody can possibly be that
arrogantly egotistical to believe they are as perfect as you apparently
believe yourself to be. No one is above reproach, not even you.

I dare you to be honest.

Steve

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You're quite right Tom, back on 8-14-2002 I did not really
know what the definition of a "sycophant" was. I still don't
know! And FYI, I was not an MVP at that time either.

You also state: "I can point an array of poor grammar by you".

My reply: Really no sense in doing so as it cannot be corrected.

Also you said: "while you feel you should be taken seriously as an MVP!"

My reply: I have never requested anyone to take me seriously, but if my
posts help folks resolve their issues, they can make that determination.
Same could be said for those posts that don't help at all. Since I have
never personally experienced 99.99% of the problems I read about in
these newsgroups, I think I've become a pretty good "troubleshooter".

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

LOL, we have a "spelling lame", back pedal defense as usual! Want me to post your reply to what you though "sycophant" meant,
without you ever looking up the definition? I can point an array of poor grammar by you. While an occasional misspelling happens
from time to time, your poor grammar happens quite often.

You call me on being taken seriously for ONE misspelled word, while you feel you should be taken seriously for your poor grammar, as
well as your inability to admit mistakes and read posts for their actual content and queries!

But anyway, I will post your embarrassing moment, when you improperly accused me of "Improper English", when you should have meant
wrong terminology, in which case was neither on my part; it was yours for not using dictionary, and saying "improper English" (which
is AKA as bad grammar, not bad vocabulary) for using a word you didn't understand!

Here's your goof for all to see, and will you admit a mistake here?
http://tinyurl.com/6sdor

Quite humorous, your grammar, and lack of terminology, as well as your inability to properly read posts and reply, while you feel
you should be taken seriously as an MVP!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Steve wrote:

"Look, Carey, I'm not really trying to attack you personally, but
dog-gone it, you have got some really bad habits and I and others have
tried in various ways to point them out to you. Are you really so dense
and/or egotistical to summarily dismiss such criticisms without
considering that some of them may actually have valid points that you
might be able to learn something from and (heaven forbid!) actually
IMPROVE your performance here? Come on! Nobody can possibly be that
arrogantly egotistical to believe they are as perfect as you apparently
believe yourself to be. No one is above reproach, not even you.

I dare you to be honest."

My reply:

Indeed, many of the criticisms of my contributions to the Microsoft newsgroups
do not fall on deaf ears. I sometimes get a bit cranky, edgy, defensive, etc., put then
I reflect back and do my best to make adjustments. And believe it or not, it was
some of the harshest and/or sarcastic criticisms that made me take note! I am also
a Taurus, and as a stubborn "bull", I'm a bit slow to readjust. Apparently, I was
nominated twice for an MVP award a few years ago, but never got it. I made
some significant adjustments and finally earned the award, but it took a lot
of determined effort. Now that I have earned the award, it is incumbent upon me
to become even more proficient and accurate with my posts, and to reflect a positive
attitude toward Microsoft and Microsoft products (although I'm not at all pressured
to do so). So, there you have it.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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"Steve N." wrote:

| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
|
| > Steves's comment: "His record speaks for itself...."
| >
| > Carey's comment: "Thank you for acknowleding my record!"
|
| That's not YOUR record. That is a goal you are supposed to try to live
| up to. In your mind do you really equate yourself to such a lofty
| position as described below? If so, then you truly ARE delusional,
| because your posting record here, in THIS newsgroup, sure says something
| different, and in case you haven't noticed I'm not the only one saying
| so, either.
|
| Too bad you can't seem to quite hit the mark here, but keep trying. I
| have actually seen you do the job right a time or three and I've even
| said so in your defense in the past, so I know you can do it.
|
| Too bad you also continuously skirt the issues brought before you and
| can never admit when you have been wrong. That, above all, troubles me
| the most.
|
| Look, Carey, I'm not really trying to attack you personally, but
| dog-gone it, you have got some really bad habits and I and others have
| tried in various ways to point them out to you. Are you really so dense
| and/or egotistical to summarily dismiss such criticisms without
| considering that some of them may actually have valid points that you
| might be able to learn something from and (heaven forbid!) actually
| IMPROVE your performance here? Come on! Nobody can possibly be that
| arrogantly egotistical to believe they are as perfect as you apparently
| believe yourself to be. No one is above reproach, not even you.
|
| I dare you to be honest.
|
| Steve
|
|
| >
| > Microsoft MVP (Most Valuable Professional) Program Focus:
| >
| > "The MVP Program is focused on relationships to and with customers via
| > online and offline communities. The program celebrates our best, most
| > active customers who have demonstrated a technical passion and willingness
| > to share their expertise with others."
| >
| > "Microsoft's Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are recognized, credible,
| > and accessible individuals with expertise in one or more Microsoft products
| > who actively participate in online and offline communities to share their knowledge
| > and expertise with other Microsoft customers. Customers want an enriched pool of
| > knowledge and real-life experience to tap for advice and feedback. MVPs are helping
| > to satisfy this need by independently enabling customers in both online and offline
| > technical communities. Customer feedback is vital to product development and R&D.
| > The MVPs represent an important part of this feedback loop by providing another link
| > for Microsoft to listen to the customer."
| >
| > "The Most Valuable Professional Program is the way that Microsoft formally acknowledges
| > the accomplishments of these individuals for their contributions to community. It is focused
| > on fostering a vibrant global community where Microsoft and customers learn about each other t
| > hrough valued ongoing relationships. The key strategies the program employs are:
| >
| >
| > -- Recognize and engage with MVPs worldwide-Identify, enable, and empower community
| > influencers through a consistent quality customer relationship with Microsoft that spans product
| > groups, services, and field organizations.
| >
| > -- Improve customer connection and satisfaction-Recognize more customers for their efforts and
| > improve the quality of the experience on their turf and in their language.
| >
| > -- Drive program excellence-Professionalize services, customer offerings, and worldwide roles
| > and responsibilities to become more predictable and accountable to both internal and external
| > Microsoft community customers.
| >
| > The MVP Program, in existence for over ten years, is represented by approximately 2,500 MVPs
| > in 87 countries."
| >
|