Ever heard of running an Athlon processor w/o a heatsink and fan?

[Bob Kruse]

My future son-in-law brought me over a bunch of computer parts and
asked me to put together a working system so they can have a second
computer in their apartment for internet access. One of the items he
brought was an Athlon processor. A 2000 or 2500, I'd have to go look
but it doesn't matter for this story. Anyway, he didn't have a
heatsink or fan so I figured I'd just buy one for him. Later, we were
talking and I decided to ask him if there was a heatsink he forgot to
bring over or if I needed to get one. He told me his current system
uses an Athlon 1800 and runs at 90 degrees with NO HEATSINK AND FAN.
I didn't think you could do that with today's processors but he claims
this thing runs all day with no problems. In addition, he bought this
computer from "some guy" who lost the side of the case because he
never used it so it would get more air. What?? So this computer
allegedly runs with the case open and the processor sitting out there
by itself.

Without having to drive over to his place to see for myself, is this
even possible? Have any of you ever risked running a modern processor
without the heatsink/fan? What happened?

Bob

 

[spodosaurus]

My future son-in-law brought me over a bunch of computer parts and
asked me to put together a working system so they can have a second
computer in their apartment for internet access. One of the items he
brought was an Athlon processor. A 2000 or 2500, I'd have to go look
but it doesn't matter for this story. Anyway, he didn't have a
heatsink or fan so I figured I'd just buy one for him. Later, we were
talking and I decided to ask him if there was a heatsink he forgot to
bring over or if I needed to get one. He told me his current system
uses an Athlon 1800 and runs at 90 degrees with NO HEATSINK AND FAN.

That's ****tarded.

I didn't think you could do that with today's processors but he claims
this thing runs all day with no problems.

He's killing that CPU, assuming he's not bullshitting.

In addition, he bought this
computer from "some guy" who lost the side of the case because he
never used it so it would get more air. What?? So this computer
allegedly runs with the case open and the processor sitting out there
by itself.

Without having to drive over to his place to see for myself, is this
even possible? Have any of you ever risked running a modern processor
without the heatsink/fan?
No

What happened?

On a modern motherboard the system would repeatedly reboot.

Bob

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[Tom Lake]

Without having to drive over to his place to see for myself, is this
even possible? Have any of you ever risked running a modern processor
without the heatsink/fan? What happened?

The Intel P4 will run without a heatsink or fan but slows itself down to
cool off.
If a heatsink is installed while it's running, it will speed up again.

Tom Lake

 

[David Maynard]

My future son-in-law brought me over a bunch of computer parts and
asked me to put together a working system so they can have a second
computer in their apartment for internet access. One of the items he
brought was an Athlon processor. A 2000 or 2500, I'd have to go look
but it doesn't matter for this story. Anyway, he didn't have a
heatsink or fan so I figured I'd just buy one for him. Later, we were
talking and I decided to ask him if there was a heatsink he forgot to
bring over or if I needed to get one. He told me his current system
uses an Athlon 1800 and runs at 90 degrees with NO HEATSINK AND FAN.

I suspect he doesn't know, or there's some other point of confusion,
because an XP 1800 will last a proverbial 7 seconds, give or take the blink
of an eye or two, without a heatsink.

I didn't think you could do that with today's processors but he claims
this thing runs all day with no problems. In addition, he bought this
computer from "some guy" who lost the side of the case because he
never used it so it would get more air. What?? So this computer
allegedly runs with the case open and the processor sitting out there
by itself.

Without having to drive over to his place to see for myself, is this
even possible? Have any of you ever risked running a modern processor
without the heatsink/fan? What happened?

Never tried it. But then I'm the conservative type who never jumped off a
1,000 foot cliff to see if it really hurt when you hit bottom either.

 

[spodosaurus]

I suspect he doesn't know, or there's some other point of confusion,
because an XP 1800 will last a proverbial 7 seconds, give or take the
blink of an eye or two, without a heatsink.



Never tried it. But then I'm the conservative type who never jumped off
a 1,000 foot cliff to see if it really hurt when you hit bottom either.

I think the speed at which your brain becomes loose jelly is faster than
the speed of nerve condution given the velocity at impact. So, there's
really no need to jump off that cliff: the perception of tissue damage
won't even reach the brain until after the brain is no longer really a
brain anymore, in the living and functional sense. It takes a bit longer
for pain perception as well, by which time the pain perception centres
will likely have leaked out of the new fissures in your cranium and
started making interesting patterns on the rocks.

Happy new year!

Ari


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spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

 

[David Maynard]

I think the speed at which your brain becomes loose jelly is faster than
the speed of nerve condution given the velocity at impact. So, there's
really no need to jump off that cliff: the perception of tissue damage
won't even reach the brain until after the brain is no longer really a
brain anymore, in the living and functional sense. It takes a bit longer
for pain perception as well, by which time the pain perception centres
will likely have leaked out of the new fissures in your cranium and
started making interesting patterns on the rocks.

Sounds logical.

I'm still not going to try it.

 

[Conor]

My future son-in-law brought me over a bunch of computer parts and
asked me to put together a working system so they can have a second
computer in their apartment for internet access. One of the items he
brought was an Athlon processor. A 2000 or 2500, I'd have to go look
but it doesn't matter for this story. Anyway, he didn't have a
heatsink or fan so I figured I'd just buy one for him. Later, we were
talking and I decided to ask him if there was a heatsink he forgot to
bring over or if I needed to get one. He told me his current system
uses an Athlon 1800 and runs at 90 degrees with NO HEATSINK AND FAN.
I didn't think you could do that with today's processors but he claims
this thing runs all day with no problems. In addition, he bought this
computer from "some guy" who lost the side of the case because he
never used it so it would get more air. What?? So this computer
allegedly runs with the case open and the processor sitting out there
by itself.

90C is WAY over AMDs spec.

He may have a motherboard that throttles the CPU speed.

It may fire up Windows and run a browser but it'll die the moment it's
asked to do some work.


--
Conor

I'm so grateful to the USA for their contribution to the war on terror.
After all, if they hadn't funded the IRA for 30 years, we wouldn't know
what terror was.

 

[David Maynard]

90C is WAY over AMDs spec.

90C is the maximum specified die temp for an 1800+, which makes him citing
that number sound like someone reading a spec sheet rather than what's
actually going on.

 

[Simian Dyson]

My future son-in-law brought me over a bunch of computer parts and
asked me to put together a working system so they can have a second
computer in their apartment for internet access. One of the items he
brought was an Athlon processor. A 2000 or 2500, I'd have to go look
but it doesn't matter for this story. Anyway, he didn't have a
heatsink or fan so I figured I'd just buy one for him. Later, we were
talking and I decided to ask him if there was a heatsink he forgot to
bring over or if I needed to get one. He told me his current system
uses an Athlon 1800 and runs at 90 degrees with NO HEATSINK AND FAN.
I didn't think you could do that with today's processors but he claims
this thing runs all day with no problems. In addition, he bought this
computer from "some guy" who lost the side of the case because he
never used it so it would get more air. What?? So this computer
allegedly runs with the case open and the processor sitting out there
by itself.

Without having to drive over to his place to see for myself, is this
even possible? Have any of you ever risked running a modern processor
without the heatsink/fan? What happened?

Bob

Since every proc I've ever bought usually cost me more than I could afford
to spend, I never fired one up without a HSF. In fact, most mobos won't let
you boot without detecting the fan, unless you stupidly disable this setting
in BIOS. No, bad idea, unless you have an unlimited budget and like the
smell of burnt silicon.

 

[geoff]

I can also run my car on 1 quart of oil but why do it?

-g