Event ID 5782 every 2 hours

[MIcrosoft]

Hi, recentley had to reinstall Win2kAS on a new hard drive, and I am
getting event id 5782 every 2 hours, and nothing I have tried seems to solve
the issue. Here is how things are setup:

1 Win2kAS as PDC, with Exchange 2000, SQL 2000. DNS Service is not
installed. I have followed all knowledge base articles about disabling
Dynamic DNS registrations. I am using an IP adress given by ISP and am
using my domain name registrars DNS servers. I have one of those DNS servers
listed in the DNS tab of TCP/IP and the other two DNS servers are my ISP's.
None of these DNS servers support Dynamic registration, so I have disabled
this. But if it is supposed to be disabled why am I still getting this
message, and why does the error say there are no local DNS servers? I never
had this problem with my first installation.

Any thoughts of how I can fix this?

Thank You

Paul

 

[PaulG]

Sorry, don't know how MIcrosoft ended up in the from...

 

[Kevin D. Goodknecht [MVP]]

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Hi, recentley had to reinstall Win2kAS on a new hard drive, and I am
getting event id 5782 every 2 hours, and nothing I have tried seems
to solve the issue. Here is how things are setup:

1 Win2kAS as PDC, with Exchange 2000, SQL 2000. DNS Service is not
installed. I have followed all knowledge base articles about
disabling Dynamic DNS registrations. I am using an IP adress given
by ISP and am using my domain name registrars DNS servers. I have one
of those DNS servers listed in the DNS tab of TCP/IP and the other
two DNS servers are my ISP's. None of these DNS servers support
Dynamic registration, so I have disabled this. But if it is supposed
to be disabled why am I still getting this message, and why does the
error say there are no local DNS servers? I never had this problem
with my first installation.

Any thoughts of how I can fix this?

Thank You

Paul

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5782&eventno=481&source=NETLOGON&phase=1

 

[PaulG]

Thank you very much for the helpful link. I will post back what I find
works.

Regards,

PaulG

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Hi, recentley had to reinstall Win2kAS on a new hard drive, and I am
getting event id 5782 every 2 hours, and nothing I have tried seems
to solve the issue. Here is how things are setup:

1 Win2kAS as PDC, with Exchange 2000, SQL 2000. DNS Service is not
installed. I have followed all knowledge base articles about
disabling Dynamic DNS registrations. I am using an IP adress given
by ISP and am using my domain name registrars DNS servers. I have one
of those DNS servers listed in the DNS tab of TCP/IP and the other
two DNS servers are my ISP's. None of these DNS servers support
Dynamic registration, so I have disabled this. But if it is supposed
to be disabled why am I still getting this message, and why does the
error say there are no local DNS servers? I never had this problem
with my first installation.

Any thoughts of how I can fix this?

Thank You

Paul

Not sure how you got the first one running properly, since you used your
ISP's and registrar's DNS servers for this installation. Basically you
CANNOT use a foreign DNS server with an AD installation. AD requires it;s
own internal private DNS so the Netlogon service can register it's SRV
records that are required for domain communication. Without these records,
all sorts of problems are guaranteed to occur. This article is a good start
to understand AD's fundamental requirements:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=291382

Also, read this post from a couple of weeks ago that I posted for someone
with similar errors that are due to the same reason:


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---- Original Message -----
From: Ace Fekay [MVP]
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: error 5774


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Anyone know why I am getting error 5774 in system log
saying DNS does not exist. I checked eventid.net but does
not have exact error DNS does not exist?? Any help would
be appreciated-thx

Normally (99.9% of the time) it's caused by your machines NOT using the
internal DNS server in their IP properties, and *possibly* listing your
ISP's. AD *requires* DNS, since it stores all it'd data in there. AD always
'asks" DNS, where is this or where is that in my domain. If the ISP is
listed, then all sorts of problems *will* occur. Guaranteed to occur.

Recommendations:
1. Use only your internal DNS. This applies to all machines, DCs and
clients.

2. Set updates on the zone properties to at least "Yes".

3. Insure that your AD domain name is NOT a single label name ("domain.com"
instead of just "domain") or numerous other problems will arise due to this.

4. Then at a cmd prompt on the DC:
ipconfig /registerdns
net stop netlogon
net start netlogon

5. To achieve efficient internet name resolution, configure a forwarder on
your DNS. If the option is grayed out, delete the Root zone. This articl
shows how to configure a forwarder and delete the root zone:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=300202


If the above steps are true or you've followed them, and you're still having
problems, then we'll need to see an ipconfig /all from your DC. Also if you
can also please tell us what your AD DNS Domain name should be (exact
spelling). This will help in diagnosis. It may come down to other issues.
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[PaulG]

Thank You.

I did make a change to DNSUpdates in the registry and now I get 5781 errors
instead of 5782. I guess my course of action should be to install the DNS
service and point it to itself? Then how would I use my ISP's DNS to lookup
websites when accessing sites or sending mail through exchange?

I am not sure how I got it all working on the first installation, but
everything worked perfectley for more then a year, until I lost my HD...

Thanks,

Paul


"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Thank You.

I did make a change to DNSUpdates in the registry and now I get 5781
errors instead of 5782. I guess my course of action should be to
install the DNS service and point it to itself? Then how would I use
my ISP's DNS to lookup websites when accessing sites or sending mail
through exchange?

I am not sure how I got it all working on the first installation, but
everything worked perfectley for more then a year, until I lost my
HD...

Thanks,

Paul

Ok, let's do this. Back out that reg change. Use ONLY your internal DNS. Do
not use the ISP or any other external server, ok? This goes for ALL internal
machines (DCs and clients). This is the absolute rule for AD and DNS.

Then to get efficient Internet resolution, use a forwarder. You can use
4.2.2.2 as a forwarder. Been using it for years without problems. If the
checkbox option to forward is grayed out, delete the Root zone. If not sure
how to do this, this article will show you these two steps:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=300202

I would do this for ALL your clients. AD requires this for functionality,
otherwise, as you've already seen, all sorts of errors will occur. If the
ISP tells you that you must use their DNS, then that's apparently telling me
that they do NOT understand Active Directory.

Let us know how you make out.

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[PaulG]

Ok, thanks for the info. I think I am starting to understand this. The DNS
service is net installed on this server, so that is the first problem. The
ISP isn't telling me I need to use their DNS, that's just what I have been
using, as they supply the IP address. My Router get's the IP address and
the DNS addresses from my ISP. I simply use a router to forward HTTP, SMTP,
and POP3 to the server.

Ok So I am going to install DNS service from the add/remove programs. After
I do this, do I need to reinstall any Windows service packs?

Thanks,

Paul


"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Ok, thanks for the info. I think I am starting to understand this.
The DNS service is net installed on this server, so that is the first
problem. The ISP isn't telling me I need to use their DNS, that's
just what I have been using, as they supply the IP address. My
Router get's the IP address and the DNS addresses from my ISP. I
simply use a router to forward HTTP, SMTP, and POP3 to the server.

Ok So I am going to install DNS service from the add/remove programs.
After I do this, do I need to reinstall any Windows service packs?

Thanks,

Paul

Yes, if you don't uise an SP-integrated i386 source, then you'll need to
reinstall the SP and re-run Windows Update as well.

If you use the router for DHCP, I would suggest to either use Window's DHCP
service and not the router's, since you have more control. If not, make sure
to go in there and remove the ISP DNS address from the DHCP Scope.



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[PaulG]

OK. I added the DNS server service, and removed all the DNS servers from
the DNS tab in TCP/IP. I then configured the DNS server. When I do a
ipconfig /all the only DNS that shows up is the local machine 127.0.0.1. I
can surf the net just fine, and it finds the correct ip addresses from the
hosts. I guess this means my DNS server is working. I undid all the
registry changes I maid and reboot the computer. The darn thing is still
giving me Event ID 5781 every 2 hours. First it was 5782 now it is 5781.
It is still saying no DNS servers. Something has to be misconfigured or
broken. I knew I should have taken a MSCE course instead of a Database
course. ;-)

Thank you for all your help. I would be fumbling for months without this
thread...

Paul

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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OK. I added the DNS server service, and removed all the DNS servers
from the DNS tab in TCP/IP. I then configured the DNS server. When
I do a ipconfig /all the only DNS that shows up is the local machine
127.0.0.1. I can surf the net just fine, and it finds the correct ip
addresses from the hosts. I guess this means my DNS server is
working. I undid all the registry changes I maid and reboot the
computer. The darn thing is still giving me Event ID 5781 every 2
hours. First it was 5782 now it is 5781. It is still saying no DNS
servers. Something has to be misconfigured or broken. I knew I
should have taken a MSCE course instead of a Database course. ;-)

Thank you for all your help. I would be fumbling for months without
this thread...

Paul

Change the loopback address (127.0.0.10 to your actual IP address.

Create a reverse zone for your IP range.

Make sure dynamic updates are set to at least YES.

Make sure DNS is set to listen on the NIC address (DNS properties, interface
tab).

Does this machine have mutliple NICs?

Is your domain name a single label name?


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[PaulG]

Hi, here are my answers...

Change the loopback address (127.0.0.10 to your actual IP address.

Do I do this by putting my IP into the DNS tab? Or do I edit the LM hosts
file? Sorry, I have never done this...

Create a reverse zone for your IP range.

OK - does it matter what, option? I chose the first option, Active
Directory integrated.

Make sure dynamic updates are set to at least YES.

They are on in the registry and in the TCP/IP tab.

Make sure DNS is set to listen on the NIC address (DNS properties, interface
tab).

It is set to listen on ALL IP's, of wich I only have one, and it is listed.

Does this machine have mutliple NICs?
No


Is your domain name a single label name?

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what this means. It is registered as
a .com. the server name is a single word, as is the domain name.


Thank You,

Paul

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Hi, here are my answers...



Do I do this by putting my IP into the DNS tab? Or do I edit the LM
hosts file? Sorry, I have never done this...

IP Propertis. Leave the LMHOSTS and HOSTS files alone.

OK - does it matter what, option? I chose the first option, Active
Directory integrated.

Sure, if you like and if the option is available. That's mostly the
recommended zone type, depending on a given scenario.

They are on in the registry and in the TCP/IP tab.

No, I mean Rt-click your zone name, properties, set to allow dynamic updates
into the zone.

It is set to listen on ALL IP's, of wich I only have one, and it is
listed.


Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what this means. It is
registered as a .com. the server name is a single word, as is the
domain name.

The domain name of AD and your zone in DNS MUST be in the form of
"domain.com" and not just "domain". Other issues if it's a single label
name. DNS is a hierachal tree. A single label name does not follow the tree
format.

Thank You,

Paul

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[PaulG]

Change the loopback address (127.0.0.10 to your actual IP address.

IP Propertis. Leave the LMHOSTS and HOSTS files alone.

OK- Done...



They were set to Only Secure Updates, is this ok? I changed them to Yes
anyway...

The domain name of AD and your zone in DNS MUST be in the form of
"domain.com" and not just "domain". Other issues if it's a single label
name. DNS is a hierachal tree. A single label name does not follow the tree
format.

OK the AD name is set to xyz.com . When I look in the DNS it shows the
server, and is names xyzserver, which is the pre2000 domain name. Should
this be xyz.com too? If so how do I change this, I see no option. My
forward lookup zones has one called dns.xyz.com, while me reverse lookup
zone has an entry called 192.x.x.x Subnet. Is this correct?

Thank You, I am finally starting to undertand this stuff, which makes me
happy. I never had to fool with any of this stuff on the last installation,
which I think must have been a fluke...

Regards,

Paul

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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OK- Done...




They were set to Only Secure Updates, is this ok? I changed them to
Yes anyway...


OK the AD name is set to xyz.com . When I look in the DNS it shows
the server, and is names xyzserver, which is the pre2000 domain name.
Should this be xyz.com too? If so how do I change this, I see no
option. My forward lookup zones has one called dns.xyz.com, while me
reverse lookup zone has an entry called 192.x.x.x Subnet. Is this
correct?

Thank You, I am finally starting to undertand this stuff, which
makes me happy. I never had to fool with any of this stuff on the
last installation, which I think must have been a fluke...

Regards,

Paul

There's alot to it Paul!

In the console, it;s ok to see just the server's name in there. Don;t worry
about that. Sounds like you're off to a good start..



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