A different 5782 issue?

[Steve H]

Howdy,
I seem to have a different problem from the 5782 errors
posted below and I haven't found anything in the KB. DNS
appears to be working throughout the network (Small
Business Server 2000, WinXPPro clients), but we
periodically get the following error:
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5782
Date: 8/7/2003
Time: 3:21:14 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SERVERONE
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS
records failed with the following error:
No DNS servers configured for local system.
Data:
0000: 7c 26 00 00 |&..

Am I missing something obvious? Any suggestions would be
gratefully received.
Thanks,
Steve

My ipconfig shows:
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVERONE
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : SignAge.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : SignAge.local
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-
BE-DE
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : EtherFast
10/100 Managed Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-27-
1A-53
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 141.151.0.68
199.45.45.14

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Howdy,
I seem to have a different problem from the 5782 errors
posted below and I haven't found anything in the KB. DNS
appears to be working throughout the network (Small
Business Server 2000, WinXPPro clients), but we
periodically get the following error:
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5782
Date: 8/7/2003
Time: 3:21:14 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SERVERONE
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS
records failed with the following error:
No DNS servers configured for local system.
Data:
0000: 7c 26 00 00 |&..

Am I missing something obvious? Any suggestions would be
gratefully received.
Thanks,
Steve

My ipconfig shows:
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVERONE
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : SignAge.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : SignAge.local
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-
BE-DE
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : EtherFast
10/100 Managed Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-27-
1A-53
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 141.151.0.68
199.45.45.14

Hi Steve,

Well, for starters, it's recommended to not use your ISP's DNS in your
properties. So it would be good to remove these two:
141.151.0.68
199.45.45.14
And just use 192.168.1.1.

On your zone properties, ensure that dynamic updates are set to at least
YES.

Which interface is the AD internal network and which one is the external
adapter?
Since this is a mutli homed machine, I was going to make some suggestions to
clean it up a bit, but need to know which adapter is which.

I would then suggest to use a forwarder to your ISP's. That's done in DNS
properties, Forwarders tab. TYpe those two addresses in there.

More info:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5782




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Regards,
Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

 

[Michael Johnston [MSFT]]

As Ace has pointed out, you should only point to your self for DNS. Configure forwarders in DNS to your ISP. I also see that both NICs have default gateways.
Only the external NIC should have a default gateway. Also to note is that the default gateway on the internal adapter is pointing to an off subnet address which
is technically incorrect anyway. Routes must always point at a gateway that is on the same subnet as the adapter the route binds to.

Thank you,
Mike Johnston
Microsoft Network Support

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[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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As Ace has pointed out, you should only point to your self for DNS.
Configure forwarders in DNS to your ISP. I also see that both NICs
have default gateways. Only the external NIC should have a default
gateway. Also to note is that the default gateway on the internal
adapter is pointing to an off subnet address which is technically
incorrect anyway. Routes must always point at a gateway that is on
the same subnet as the adapter the route binds to.

Thank you,
Mike Johnston
Microsoft Network Support

Yes, you can only have one default gateway on a multi-homed machine. You'll
have to find out what the default gateway should be from your ISP and enter
that only in your external NIC properties.

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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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-----Original Message-----
Hi Steve,
Well, for starters, it's recommended to not use your
ISP's DNS in your
properties. So it would be good to remove these two:
141.151.0.68
199.45.45.14
And just use 192.168.1.1.

On your zone properties, ensure that dynamic updates are
set to at least
YES.

Which interface is the AD internal network and which one
is the external
adapter?
Since this is a mutli homed machine, I was going to make
some suggestions to
clean it up a bit, but need to know which adapter is
which.

I would then suggest to use a forwarder to your ISP's.
That's done in DNS
properties, Forwarders tab. TYpe those two addresses in
there.

More info:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5782

Mike replied:

As Ace has pointed out, you should only point to your
self for DNS. Configure forwarders in DNS to your ISP.
I also see that both NICs have default gateways.
Only the external NIC should have a default gateway.
Also to note is that the default gateway on the internal
adapter is pointing to an off subnet address which
is technically incorrect anyway. Routes must always
point at a gateway that is on the same subnet as the
adapter the route binds to.

Thank you,
Mike Johnston
Microsoft Network Support

--
And Ace amplified:
Yes, you can only have one default gateway on a multi-
homed machine. You'll
have to find out what the default gateway should be from
your ISP and enter
that only in your external NIC properties.

Continuing:
Thank you for your replies.
Per Ace, I removed my ISP's DNS servers from my network
setup and added them to the forwarders tab. I then
changed allow dynamic updates (for signage.local)
from 'Only secure updates' to 'Yes'.
Per Mike, I removed the default gateway setting from my
internal NIC (the Intel Pro at 192.168.1.1).
On one point I am confused by your replies. I have
assumed that my external NIC (the EtherFast at
192.168.0.2) gateway setting should point to the LAN
address of my router(192.168.0.1), while the router's
gateway should point to my ISP. I have left it this way
until I hear otherwise.
As you mentioned, this is a multi-homed machine, for ISA
purposes. It seemed like a good idea at the time.:-|
All these things are to the good. My IP config now reads:

Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVERONE
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : SignAge.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : SignAge.local
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
PRO/1000 MT Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-BE-
DE
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : EtherFast
10/100 Managed Network Ada
pter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-27-1A-
53
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 196.0.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Netdiag shows:
DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Failed
[WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not
registered correctly on DNS se
rver '192.168.1.1'. Please wait for 30 minutes for DNS
server replication.
[FATAL] No DNS servers have the DNS records for this
DC registered.

The 5782 errors still exist. Any further suggestions
would be welcome.
Thanks again.
Steve

HI Steve,

The gateway setups look good now. Keep in mind, the gateway always point to
the outside world, never pointing internally, kind of like follow the road
to the ISP. To point internally (such as having additional subnets, we use
Static Routes, but doesn;t apply to your scenario.

What SP level is this machine?

Do the SRV records exist in the signage.local zone?
241515 - How to Verify the Creation of SRV Records for a Domain Controller:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;241515

If they do not exist, try this:

Delete these two files (they get re-created anyway):
system32\config\netlogon.dns
syste,32\config\netlogon.dnb

Then:
ipconfig /registerdns
net stop netlogon
net start netlogon

Let us know if any Event log errors occur after performing these steps.

Also, since a dual home machine, like to clean up some of the extra non-used
or not needed services, in DNS properties, Interface tab, set it to listen
to just the internal interface.
Then in the external NIC properties, uncheck the boxes for (disabling) File
and Print Services, and MS Client Service.
Then while still in the external NIC properties, in IP properties, Advanced,
WINS tab, disable NetBIOS, then go back to the DNS tab, and uncheck register
this connection. It may still register the connection since it's a DNS
server sitting on a DC, but let's not worry about it for now.

See if these steps help,

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory