Even top officials struggled to make vista work!!!

J

jxzk

I guess this is a slap in the face to the blind supporters of vista, who
claim "you have to be smart to install vista", implying that the people who
have problems or just dont like it are not smart. Lets see who laughs last
though!

Even top officials struggled to make vista work!!! See LINK below

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_msftvista28.html

Even some of Microsoft Corp.'s top officials struggled to make Windows Vista
work smoothly when it was released, according to internal e-mails released
Wednesday.


To read the unsealed Microsoft e-mails, see goto.seattlepi.com/r1289
The messages, unsealed in a lawsuit against the company, show that Vista's
early problems with hardware and software compatibility affected more than
just average PC users. The e-mails also illustrate how the company will try
to avoid such issues in the next Windows release.

"We need to be clearer with industry, and we need to decide what we will do
and do that well and 100 percent and not just do a little of everything,"
wrote Steven Sinofsky, the Microsoft executive who took over Windows
engineering after Vista's retail release in January 2007.

The scattershot approach left hardware makers "in a confused state,"
Sinofsky added in the February 2007 e-mail, not long after he assumed the
post. The message is notable in part because Sinofsky has been publicly
quiet about Microsoft's plans for the next version, known by the internal
code name Windows 7.

Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer endorsed Sinofsky's sentiment
succinctly. "Righto," Ballmer replied.

Those and other messages were made public as part of a lawsuit alleging that
Microsoft deceived consumers before Windows Vista's launch by touting PCs as
"Windows Vista Capable" even if they could run only Windows Vista Home
Basic. That bare-bones version lacks many of Windows Vista's signature
features, such as slick graphics.

The lawsuit was granted class-action status last week. The e-mails unsealed
Wednesday, previously disclosed only in snippets, focus in part on an
internal debate over the standards for the "Windows Vista Capable"
designation. But they also expose a broader discussion about the operating
system's compatibility problems.

Microsoft spokesman Jack Evans said in a statement Wednesday: "Throughout
this process, Microsoft employees raised concerns and addressed issues with
the intent to make this program better for our business partners and
valuable for consumers. That's the sort of exchange we want to encourage.
And in the end, we believe we succeeded in achieving both objectives."

One February 2007 exchange started with an e-mail to Ballmer from Microsoft
board member Jon Shirley, who explained that he upgraded one of his
computers to Vista only to find it was experiencing problems working with
two of Microsoft's own MSN applications. Shirley wrote that he wasn't
upgrading his other computer because of a lack of hardware drivers.

Microsoft and PC makers used "Windows Vista Capable" stickers in an attempt
to maintain sales of Windows XP machines during the 2006 holiday shopping
season, after Windows Vista's retail release was delayed to early 2007. The
internal e-mails reveal an extensive debate inside Microsoft over the
hardware specifications needed to qualify.

One message points to chip maker Intel Corp., a key Microsoft partner, to
explain the decision to lower the requirements a piece of hardware needed to
qualify for the "Windows Vista Capable" designation.

"In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make their quarterly
earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards with the 915 graphics
embedded," Microsoft executive John Kalkman wrote in the message, referring
to a class of Intel graphics technology that doesn't work with Windows
Vista's most-advanced graphics technology, known as Aero Glass.

In another message, Microsoft executive Mike Nash wrote that he "personally
got burned by the Intel 915 chipset issue."

"I know that I chose my laptop (a SONY TX770P) because it had the Vista logo
and was pretty disappointed that it not only wouldn't run Glass, but more
importantly wouldn't run Movie Maker," Nash wrote. "I now have a $2,100
e-mail machine."

Other messages make it clear that the lowered requirements for the "Vista
Capable" designation angered computer-maker Hewlett-Packard and retailers.

In a February 2006 e-mail, Robin Leonard, a Microsoft employee, wrote that
Wal-Mart officials were "extremely disappointed in the fact that the
standards were lowered and feel like customer confusion will ensue."

She added later, "Please give this some consideration; it would be a lot
less costly to do the right thing for the customer than to spend dollars on
the back end trying to fix the problem."
 
O

On the Bridge!

People are so angry with vista they have to get back at it...

They had to find a way to smash Vista, but really how could you smash a bad
product just because its crap? You cant.. because all they (MS) would say is
that its your choice to buy it or not...
So starting with this "vista ready" deception is a good fist step in taking
down vista..

After this they will find more stuff to make Microsoft sweat and cry for
ever thinking of releasing
an OS that is Alpha quality. (Alpha means experimental early test version)

Who would really believe that Microsoft could get away with creating such a
POS product and
releasing it to the world (and in the begining making it hard to get XP
too!)?

No Sir, Vista will become Microsofts nightmare and it will carry its bad
reputation for years to come.


--
50 Ways to leave your Vista....

CHORUS:

You just format the drive , Clive
Get a New Mac , Jack
Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Boot from a *nix, Jix
You don't need to discuss much
Install XP, Lee
And get yourself free
 
O

On the Bridge!

It seems that I will make a collection of Frank fake emails..

into the bozo bin you go again where you belong.
You have to get used to the bin as your home.
You cant keep wandering out ya know!

if you're nice Ill throw in free heat and a mattress for you to stay put in
there.



--
What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007..._people_are_really_saying_about_windows_vista

50 Ways to leave your Vista....

CHORUS:

You just format the drive , Clive
Get a New Mac , Jack
Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Boot from a *nix, Jix
You don't need to discuss much
Install XP, Lee
And get yourself free
 
F

Frank

jxzk said:
I guess this is a slap in the face to the blind supporters of vista, who
claim "you have to be smart to install vista", implying that the people who
have problems or just dont like it are not smart. Lets see who laughs last
though!

And you're laughing because...you're one of those who can't get Vista to
run properly? You bought Vista pre-installed and the hardware wasn't up
to snuff?
What?
Tell us all why you are "laughing last".
Frank
 
N

NoStop

jxzk said:
I guess this is a slap in the face to the blind supporters of vista, who
claim "you have to be smart to install vista", implying that the people
who have problems or just dont like it are not smart. Lets see who laughs
last though!

Even top officials struggled to make vista work!!! See LINK below
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_msftvista28.html

Even some of Microsoft Corp.'s top officials struggled to make Windows
Vista work smoothly when it was released, according to internal e-mails
released Wednesday.


To read the unsealed Microsoft e-mails, see goto.seattlepi.com/r1289
The messages, unsealed in a lawsuit against the company, show that Vista's
early problems with hardware and software compatibility affected more than
just average PC users. The e-mails also illustrate how the company will
try to avoid such issues in the next Windows release.

"We need to be clearer with industry, and we need to decide what we will
do and do that well and 100 percent and not just do a little of
everything," wrote Steven Sinofsky, the Microsoft executive who took over
Windows engineering after Vista's retail release in January 2007.

The scattershot approach left hardware makers "in a confused state,"
Sinofsky added in the February 2007 e-mail, not long after he assumed the
post. The message is notable in part because Sinofsky has been publicly
quiet about Microsoft's plans for the next version, known by the internal
code name Windows 7.

Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer endorsed Sinofsky's sentiment
succinctly. "Righto," Ballmer replied.

Those and other messages were made public as part of a lawsuit alleging
that Microsoft deceived consumers before Windows Vista's launch by touting
PCs as "Windows Vista Capable" even if they could run only Windows Vista
Home Basic. That bare-bones version lacks many of Windows Vista's
signature features, such as slick graphics.

The lawsuit was granted class-action status last week. The e-mails
unsealed Wednesday, previously disclosed only in snippets, focus in part
on an internal debate over the standards for the "Windows Vista Capable"
designation. But they also expose a broader discussion about the operating
system's compatibility problems.

Microsoft spokesman Jack Evans said in a statement Wednesday: "Throughout
this process, Microsoft employees raised concerns and addressed issues
with the intent to make this program better for our business partners and
valuable for consumers. That's the sort of exchange we want to encourage.
And in the end, we believe we succeeded in achieving both objectives."

One February 2007 exchange started with an e-mail to Ballmer from
Microsoft board member Jon Shirley, who explained that he upgraded one of
his computers to Vista only to find it was experiencing problems working
with two of Microsoft's own MSN applications. Shirley wrote that he wasn't
upgrading his other computer because of a lack of hardware drivers.

Microsoft and PC makers used "Windows Vista Capable" stickers in an
attempt to maintain sales of Windows XP machines during the 2006 holiday
shopping season, after Windows Vista's retail release was delayed to early
2007. The internal e-mails reveal an extensive debate inside Microsoft
over the hardware specifications needed to qualify.

One message points to chip maker Intel Corp., a key Microsoft partner, to
explain the decision to lower the requirements a piece of hardware needed
to qualify for the "Windows Vista Capable" designation.

"In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make their quarterly
earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards with the 915 graphics
embedded," Microsoft executive John Kalkman wrote in the message,
referring to a class of Intel graphics technology that doesn't work with
Windows Vista's most-advanced graphics technology, known as Aero Glass.

In another message, Microsoft executive Mike Nash wrote that he
"personally got burned by the Intel 915 chipset issue."

"I know that I chose my laptop (a SONY TX770P) because it had the Vista
logo and was pretty disappointed that it not only wouldn't run Glass, but
more importantly wouldn't run Movie Maker," Nash wrote. "I now have a
$2,100 e-mail machine."

Other messages make it clear that the lowered requirements for the "Vista
Capable" designation angered computer-maker Hewlett-Packard and retailers.

In a February 2006 e-mail, Robin Leonard, a Microsoft employee, wrote that
Wal-Mart officials were "extremely disappointed in the fact that the
standards were lowered and feel like customer confusion will ensue."

She added later, "Please give this some consideration; it would be a lot
less costly to do the right thing for the customer than to spend dollars
on the back end trying to fix the problem."
Cheers.

--
Vista will make you speechless!
http://tinyurl.com/38zv7x

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
M

Mr. Arnold

jxzk said:
I guess this is a slap in the face to the blind supporters of vista, who
claim "you have to be smart to install vista", implying that the people who
have problems or just dont like it are not smart. Lets see who laughs last
though!

Even top officials struggled to make vista work!!! See LINK below

There is no accounting for stupidity in someone no matter what level a
person is at on the job or station a person has in life.
 
R

ray

I guess this is a slap in the face to the blind supporters of vista, who
claim "you have to be smart to install vista", implying that the people
who have problems or just dont like it are not smart. Lets see who
laughs last though!

Even top officials struggled to make vista work!!! See LINK below

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_msftvista28.html

Even some of Microsoft Corp.'s top officials struggled to make Windows
Vista work smoothly when it was released, according to internal e-mails
released Wednesday.

What earthly reason could you possibly have for assuming the MS top
officials are intelligent?
 

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