Epson heads seriously clogged

[Arthur Entlich]

I do not keep any such records, nor do I know in most cases if people
use OEM or 3rd party inks unless they specifically mention it, which
many do not.

Further, I am quite sure some 3rd party inks are responsible for many
problems while some brands are as or less responsible than OEM inks.

Art

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Except that's not what the person asked. If someone says "My brand Z
printer isn't working and I'm sick of it, what other brands are
available that might be better" then you have an invitation to go on
your little sales routine, but in this and most cases to date people
were not asking for an alternative product. they were asking for
assistance to resolve the problem they were having.

And, you know, this person has a 3 year old printer. Yours is just 6
months old. You are quite smug about your printer now, but I haven't
heard from too many people with 3 year old 'i' type Canon printers. We
all will have to wait and see if they stand up. You may be sadly
disappointed, or you may not, but we simply don't know now.

Art

 

[Arthur Entlich]

I apologize for being somewhat overly defensive. On this newsgroup, one
often gets used to being attacked even for trying to be helpful.

I have also been running double duty this week, as Canadian taxes are
due in a few days, so I've had a backlog on responding and for some
reason, I have had a large increase in email requests for help the last
two weeks, so I've been getting by on a lot less sleep.

Added to this, I'm in the midst of changing my IPS, so I'm having to
deal with that and trying to create a transition that will once and for
all provide people with a public email address that will not change when
I change my IPS, which seems to happen every 6-12 months these days.
In that vein, please notice my new email address, which will be the way
to reach me privately for printer issues.

Having said that, however, it might have been more effective in
accomplishing the intent of your query by emailing me privately, so we
could have had a discussion.

As you probably noticed, it didn't take more than a few seconds for
one of the "frequent posters" here to use your posting as food for
another one of his snipes.

Art

 

[measekite]

Except that's not what the person asked. If someone says "My brand Z
printer isn't working and I'm sick of it, what other brands are
available that might be better" then you have an invitation to go on
your little sales routine, but in this and most cases to date people
were not asking for an alternative product. they were asking for
assistance to resolve the problem they were having.

I know people who have been in the repair business. When a potential
customer brought in a product for repair he sometimes advised them,
without the person asking, to seek out a new product. That the current
model was not worth the trouble of repair and that it would cause
problems in the future.

And, you know, this person has a 3 year old printer. Yours is just 6
months old. You are quite smug about your printer now, but I haven't
heard from too many people with 3 year old 'i' type Canon printers. We
all will have to wait and see if they stand up. You may be sadly
disappointed, or you may not, but we simply don't know now.

I have a 3 yr old HP too.

 

[Burt]

If you really like your printer and the prints it made when working
properly, the first thing to do is get Arthur Entlich's instructions on
cleaning head clogs and other Epson issues and spend a few hours to try to
restore it to good function. Most head clogs can be cleared with a little
patience and effort. With a little more knowledge in how to maintain
printers you don't have to give up and buy a new one without at least trying
an easy home remedy.

 

[measekite]

If you really like your printer and the prints it made when working
properly, the first thing to do is get Arthur Entlich's instructions on
cleaning head clogs and other Epson issues and spend a few hours to try to
restore it to good function. Most head clogs can be cleared with a little
patience and effort.

And they may be almost eliminated by using Epson ink; especially in the
R800/1800 series printers.

 

[Burt]

Moosebite forgot to read the original post - that LiWen has only used Epson
inks in this printer. My Epson printer had a moderate head clog from using
only Epson inks as well. With Arthur Entlich's instructions I restored it
to as-new condition. Can't blame third party inks for problems the have
occurred with use of OEM inks exclusively. Also of interest is Tony, the
printer repair person (who deliberately avoided telling us the name of his
business or where it is located - not trying to generate business for
himself) who's statistics for the last year indicate equal print head clogs
from OEM and non-OEM inks. For those who wish to use them, read all the
posts on this NG and other forums carefully, look for people who actually
use the products and can recommend the vendor and label, and don't be scared
off by our resident nay-sayer who doesn't use these products but slams them
constantly. Must be a hawker or a whore for the OEM ink cartel.

 

[Tony]

Burt
"Moosebite"
I love it!
Well done.
Tony

Moosebite forgot to read the original post - that LiWen has only used Epson
inks in this printer. My Epson printer had a moderate head clog from using
only Epson inks as well. With Arthur Entlich's instructions I restored it
to as-new condition. Can't blame third party inks for problems the have
occurred with use of OEM inks exclusively. Also of interest is Tony, the
printer repair person (who deliberately avoided telling us the name of his
business or where it is located - not trying to generate business for
himself) who's statistics for the last year indicate equal print head clogs
from OEM and non-OEM inks. For those who wish to use them, read all the
posts on this NG and other forums carefully, look for people who actually
use the products and can recommend the vendor and label, and don't be scared
off by our resident nay-sayer who doesn't use these products but slams them
constantly. Must be a hawker or a whore for the OEM ink cartel.

 

[measekite]

Moosebite forgot to read the original post - that LiWen has only used Epson
inks in this printer. My Epson printer had a moderate head clog from using
only Epson inks as well. With Arthur Entlich's instructions I restored it
to as-new condition.

Thats cool. You should have enjoyed it then instead of buying a Canon.

Can't blame third party inks for problems the have
occurred with use of OEM inks exclusively. Also of interest is


Tony, the


HAWKER


printer repair person (who deliberately avoided telling us the name of his
business or where it is located - not trying to generate business for
himself) who's statistics for the last year indicate equal print head clogs
from OEM and non-OEM inks.

So far every major source that has ever done ink reviews has recommended
to stay away from after market ink. The 2 main reasons is that you
never know what is in the box and that the vast majority will screw up
your printer.

For those who wish to use them, read all the
posts on this NG and other forums carefully, look for people who

are in the after market club. Many have been exposed to have been in
or tied to the after market business.

actually
use the products and can recommend the vendor and label, and don't be scared
off by our resident nay-sayer who doesn't use these products but slams them
constantly. Must be a hawker or a whore for the OEM ink cartel.

Yes, I own Canon and have a 25% interest in Epson. Currently I am in
negotiations to buy HP

But still and all you are a step above Frank the Crank.

 

[Burt]

Thanks for your agreement that one can, in fact, enjoy using an Epson
printer. I enjoyed using it for several years while my wife's Canon printer
had to be returned to Canon for replacement due to paper feed problems
(caused by exclusive use of OEM inks? I don't think so.) I bought my Canon
i960 for the convenience of borderless prints, slightly faster and quieter
operation, and the ease and savings of refilling carts with excellent third
party inks. Since the Canon is several years newer, it (together with
several newer Epson products) produces better photo prints. That said,
however, the thousands of Epson prints I did with the old printer still look
great. Takes a jeweler's loupe at 8x magnification to really see the
remarkable difference in size of the spots of ink each printer lays down.

 

[Hecate]

And they may be almost eliminated by using Epson ink; especially in the
R800/1800 series printers.

No, by using good quality ink. It doesn't have to be Epson.

--

Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...

 

[measekite]

No, by using good quality ink. It doesn't have to be Epson.

The only ink that is pigmented for these Epson printer that is a real
manufactured brand is Dyson.

 

[Burt]

By your narrow definition of brand. There are several vendors who sell
aftermarket Epson inks witht their own label.

 

[Ron Cohen]

Do you ever check your facts or spelling? Can you provide a link to the
"Dyson" website or someone who sell "Dyson" ink?

 

[measekite]

By your narrow definition of brand. There are several vendors who sell
aftermarket Epson inks witht their own label.


Who

 

[Burt]

Your the guy who claims to know all about the hawkers and whores - try
Google.

 

[Frank]

Do you ever check your facts or spelling? Can you provide a link to the
"Dyson" website or someone who sell "Dyson" ink?

He means Dyson vacuum cleaners. Apparently he has some kind of a
Freudian sexual fixation with these types of equipment.
He must have gotten it from watching his mommy use the vacuum.
Kind of weird huh?
Frank

 

[Burt]

Lyson is the brand of ink erroniously called Dyson by MK- just another error
from the world's greatest expert (or perhaps I missed the subtlety of his
deliberate misspelling that he applies to all third party ink vendors).
They make a wide range of inks including inkjet printer inks. Some of the
more interesting products are archival inks for Epson printers and Quad Tone
black/gray tone inks in neutral or warm or cold tones. Worth Googleing just
out of interest sake. they claim that their inks will print a more full
gamit of color than OEM inks.

 

[Ron Cohen]

Darn it, you gave away the answer to Measelshiite. Since he hasn't
responded, he probably was stumped. He does seem to have a bit of a problem
understanding there is actually such a thing as grammar and spell checkers.
At least he's a hard worker. It must take him a lot of effort to continually
appear to be a total moron, while at the same appearing to make it seem so
effortless.

 

[Tony]

No no - he has to be in bed by 8 (when he's good) otherwise earlier
Tony