Epson Cartridges - swapping?

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Peter

I 'm really pleased with the photo quality of my Epson 935 - on good
paper with Epson cartridges. But I want to try the Jet Tec
equivalent, printing the same image with the Epson cartridge, then
immediately with the Jet Tec. Can I "force" the printer to let me
change the cartridge? Epson's Web page has a solution for some
(older?) printers, tried it, doesn't work for me. Thanks for any
ideas.
 
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Yianni

Immediately you cannot test inks. The printhead must "cleanned"
from the old ink. It needs a few full color pages.
OEM cartridges have valves that let you swapping them. I'm not
sure if jettec carts have valves too.
If it doesn't have valves the swapping will turn the compatible
cartridge unusable. And if you don't care for replacing with a new
one (in a day or so), it will ruin the printer (most compatibles don't
have valves, and users reading oem instructions swap or remove
them, with the above results. I have seen many ruinned printers
from such a reason.

Tony1thatmatters [the advertiser ;-)] should help here.
 
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Stick Stickus

I would not use those cartridges, the ink specification is not the same as
the Epson ink. You cannot change them more than once as they don't have
'non-returnable valves'.
Most compats can only be used once. I would recommend taking/sending your
used Epson cartridges to Cartridge World and get them refilled there. The
ink they use has the same specification as the original and they give you a
full warranty. Try www.cartridgeworld.org. Make sure you leave a set in your
printer otherwise the printhead will start drying up and could be difficult
to clear.
regards
Dave

Yianni said:
Immediately you cannot test inks. The printhead must "cleanned"
from the old ink. It needs a few full color pages.
OEM cartridges have valves that let you swapping them. I'm not
sure if jettec carts have valves too.
If it doesn't have valves the swapping will turn the compatible
cartridge unusable. And if you don't care for replacing with a new
one (in a day or so), it will ruin the printer (most compatibles don't
have valves, and users reading oem instructions swap or remove
them, with the above results. I have seen many ruinned printers
from such a reason.

Tony1thatmatters [the advertiser ;-)] should help here.


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Peter said:
I 'm really pleased with the photo quality of my Epson 935 - on good
paper with Epson cartridges. But I want to try the Jet Tec
equivalent, printing the same image with the Epson cartridge, then
immediately with the Jet Tec. Can I "force" the printer to let me
change the cartridge? Epson's Web page has a solution for some
(older?) printers, tried it, doesn't work for me. Thanks for any
ideas.
 
T

Tony1thatmatters

Unfortunately yet again my best advice is to ignore unsupported advice. If
you were in the UK I'd send you a print of the 895with JetTec paper and ink.
Swapping won't achieve the same result as you have residue in the feed when
you print.
Tony. www.inkylink.co.uk
 
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Tony1thatmatters

Whoops I must be doing it wrong. Firstly I Swap all day between OEM and
JetTec.
Second the JetTec ink is unconditionally guaranteed to match or exceed OEM
standards.
I stand corrected - apparently from the depths of Korea :blush:)) Tony
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Stick Stickus said:
I would not use those cartridges, the ink specification is not the same as
the Epson ink. You cannot change them more than once as they don't have
'non-returnable valves'.
Most compats can only be used once. I would recommend taking/sending your
used Epson cartridges to Cartridge World and get them refilled there. The
ink they use has the same specification as the original and they give you a
full warranty. Try www.cartridgeworld.org. Make sure you leave a set in your
printer otherwise the printhead will start drying up and could be difficult
to clear.
regards
Dave

Yianni said:
Immediately you cannot test inks. The printhead must "cleanned"
from the old ink. It needs a few full color pages.
OEM cartridges have valves that let you swapping them. I'm not
sure if jettec carts have valves too.
If it doesn't have valves the swapping will turn the compatible
cartridge unusable. And if you don't care for replacing with a new
one (in a day or so), it will ruin the printer (most compatibles don't
have valves, and users reading oem instructions swap or remove
them, with the above results. I have seen many ruinned printers
from such a reason.

Tony1thatmatters [the advertiser ;-)] should help here.


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Yianni
(e-mail address removed) (remove number nine to reply)

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Peter said:
I 'm really pleased with the photo quality of my Epson 935 - on good
paper with Epson cartridges. But I want to try the Jet Tec
equivalent, printing the same image with the Epson cartridge, then
immediately with the Jet Tec. Can I "force" the printer to let me
change the cartridge? Epson's Web page has a solution for some
(older?) printers, tried it, doesn't work for me. Thanks for any
ideas.
 
Y

Yianni

Whoops I must be doing it wrong. Firstly I Swap all day between OEM and

We talked about if the jettec epson cartridges have valves.
And according to the previous report form Stick Stickus they don't have. If
you swap them the filter area remains out of ink stopping the continuity of
ink flow rendering cartridges unsusable (except rare cases, when they are
full enough and you have a little luck).
I refill many epson cartridges, but I avoid refilling most compatibles. For
refilling cartridges, it's better someone to use a oem one. Note: older
epson printers use cartridges without valves, only new oem T series carts
have valves.

Second the JetTec ink is unconditionally guaranteed to match or exceed OEM
standards.

I'm involved in inkjet business, but never I state I could make or refill a
cartridge better than oem. Neither cases nor ink could be better than those
in oem. Only Epson have more than 100,000 patents in all over the world. We
do just our best to offer good cartridges. That's all.

I stand corrected - apparently from the depths of Korea :blush:)) Tony

Do you expect Korean manufacturers to tell you "yes, my products aren't so
good?".
I use aftermarket inks, you can see color compare here
http://yianni.hypermart.net/printer/inkjet/ink/epsoncomp.html . The GE inks
render gray scale a bit little yellowish, but not even noticable. And of
course there are at least 10 other factors on ink quality.
 
Y

Yianni

I'm still unsure how to force my Epson 935 to allow me to change a
artridge -

You can unplug the printer from power cord, when the carriage is somewhere
in the middle (not in the parking position).
 
Y

Yianni

And just some few thoughts.
I'm surprised because USA is the leader in inkjet ink manufacturing. Then
Europe and final the Middle East. Also, USA is steps ahead on toner
manufacturing, and remanufactured cartridges.
In this ng the majority are US citizens, why so much interest for Middle
East or even European products? The two top world aftermarket inkjet ink
manufacturers are in USA and cover 60% of the world market!!!
 
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Taliesyn

Yianni said:
Do you expect Korean manufacturers to tell you "yes, my products aren't so
good?".

Your English isn't very good, so now I will tell you. Jet Tec IS NOT
A KOREAN COMPANY! Jet Tec products are made in England. In fact, it
is rumored Her Majesty (a very nice girl) personally checks every
cartridge. ;-) But jokes aside, the Jet Tec company received The
Queen's Award for excellence of its product. So I don't think they're
really worried about the "Yanni Award".

-Taliesyn
 
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Yianni

Jettek is a Korean company. That's it, nothing more or less.
Like epson is a japanese company even if it manufactures in all over the
world, and HP is an american company.
p.s. jettec is the 1/1,000,000 of HP and me I'm 1/1,000,000 of jettec and
1/1,000,000,000,000 of HP.

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Stick Stickus

Well said Yianni. I too am involved in the Inkjet business, in fact I am
manager of Cartridge World (Oxford) UK. I also have run my own computing
business for 20 years. I have found that the majority of Compatibles cannot
be refilled, indeed, we do not refill our own ones! We buy in empty Epson
originals to refill as we find that most people would rather stick with
Epson cartridges and they can be refilled on and on. Some Compats use
'universal. ink which is not to be recommended as all cartridges require a
specific ink make up. Our own ink's technical specification is the same as
the original, indeed we offer an unconditional warranty and also warranty
your printer. Although you could turn off the printer to change cartridges
this is not recommended, You may damage your printer and then what?
Regards
Stick
'Refill NOT Landfill'
 
Y

Yianni

Maybe "Jettek" is Korean, but UK's Jet Tec is not.

Sorry, I did a mistake, indeed the jettec is a UK company. I'm confused from
the fact that there is another company "behind" jettec. The DCI
http://www.dci.co.uk . I don't know if they produce all jettec range. You
can read in their home page "the complete range of chip cartridges are now
available from DCI in JETTEC or Neutral packaging". DCI produces at least
part of jettec's product range.


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Yianni

I've seen Cartridge World. Are you the manager of franchisee business or the
manager of the refilling business in Oxford?
By the way, think me as a knowlage person about inkjets, and don't hesitate
to ask my opinion. I'm not doing business well, but I know much ;-)

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