Emachines PC Motherboard Replacement & XP "Repair Install Utility"

[Guest]

Hi guys! Thanks for being here! Here it is:

Bad electricity required replacement of my MOTHERBOARD & powersupply on an
Emachines T2040 (Celeron). Old drivers won't let the new motherboard boot or
even enter safe mode. The "REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY" included as a part of all
MS Windows XP setup CD-ROMs seems unavailable on the Emachines "Recovery
CDs"~ a set of 2 GHOST image CDs of a PC with XP Home installed on it..
(Which has always seemed rather suspicious to me.) Here are my questions:

Is there a way to either delete the files inhibiting entry into safe mode
command prompt (where I am told by Emachines support
"..\windows\i386\winnt32.exe" will activate the REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY (Will
it?); and if so, which ones would do the trick? Or something in the registry
purhaps? (I couldn't do it via Device Manager because I can't boot the old
dead motherboard..)

Can the REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY be acquired &/or used in some other way?
From Microsoft? As a hidden file somehow accessed in ways I don't know
about? Are there OTHER ways to get this silly thing working again instead
maybe?

How does Microsoft feel about companies GHOSTING XP Home and excluding
IMPORTANT Utilities; and not including their OS CDs? (If it sounds like I'm
trying to start some trouble here, welll...)

Anyway, I've got a new motherboard & Power supply here, and it would sure be
nice if a seemingly boobie-trapped PC I bought wouldn't screw me over! Any
ideas or help would be GREATLY appreciated indeed! Thanks! LHaw

 

[Guest]

If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
XP is not going to boot-up since it is looking for the same BIOS.
All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.­com/XPrepairinstall.htm

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Your eMachine recovery CD will only work with
the eMachine motherboard. If you replaced the
motherboard with a non-eMachine motherboard,
the eMachine Windows XP license is no longer
valid. You'll need to purchase a conventional
"Full Version" of Windows XP and proceed with
a "Repair Install".

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Michael Stevens]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| Hi guys! Thanks for being here! Here it is:
|
| Bad electricity required replacement of my MOTHERBOARD & powersupply on an
| Emachines T2040 (Celeron). Old drivers won't let the new motherboard boot or
| even enter safe mode. The "REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY" included as a part of all
| MS Windows XP setup CD-ROMs seems unavailable on the Emachines "Recovery
| CDs"~ a set of 2 GHOST image CDs of a PC with XP Home installed on it..
| (Which has always seemed rather suspicious to me.) Here are my questions:
|
| Is there a way to either delete the files inhibiting entry into safe mode
| command prompt (where I am told by Emachines support
| "..\windows\i386\winnt32.exe" will activate the REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY (Will
| it?); and if so, which ones would do the trick? Or something in the registry
| purhaps? (I couldn't do it via Device Manager because I can't boot the old
| dead motherboard..)
|
| Can the REPAIR INSTALL UTILITY be acquired &/or used in some other way?
| From Microsoft? As a hidden file somehow accessed in ways I don't know
| about? Are there OTHER ways to get this silly thing working again instead
| maybe?
|
| How does Microsoft feel about companies GHOSTING XP Home and excluding
| IMPORTANT Utilities; and not including their OS CDs? (If it sounds like I'm
| trying to start some trouble here, welll...)
|
| Anyway, I've got a new motherboard & Power supply here, and it would sure be
| nice if a seemingly boobie-trapped PC I bought wouldn't screw me over! Any
| ideas or help would be GREATLY appreciated indeed! Thanks! LHaw

 

[Alias]

If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
XP is not going to boot-up since it is looking for the same BIOS.
All you can do

A lie (again).

is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

Or, save some money, and buy a generic OEM and proceed with a Repair
Install.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Your eMachine recovery CD will only work with
the eMachine motherboard. If you replaced the
motherboard with a non-eMachine motherboard,
the eMachine Windows XP license is no longer
valid. You'll need to purchase a conventional
"Full Version" of Windows XP and proceed with
a "Repair Install".

Why do you lie? The OP can buy a generic OEM and do a Repair Install
with that and save a lot of money.

Alias

 

[Guest]

Did you install OEM Motherboard??
If not, you're probaly stuck with purchasing Retail Win XP and all
preinstalled applications. If you think you need them.
Did you talk to eMAchine tech support??

Sorry. It's eMachine. I think it means economy when purchasing NOT repairing!!

 

[Richard Urban]

And isn't a generic O.E.M. Windows XP CD a FULL INSTALL version?

Of course it is! I have not seen any other.

So, Carey is correct in his statement. He did NOT say for the person to
purchase a retail version. He said, You'll need to purchase a conventional
"Full Version".

The O.E.M. Windows XP CD is included in that group.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Guest]

What's a "generic OEM"?
An illegal copy?

 

[Guest]

Please read Richard Urban's reply. He is a
heck of a lot more knowledgeable than you
and your tendancy to distort information.

 

[Kerry Brown]

What's a "generic OEM"?
An illegal copy?

Sold by smaller OEMs (like me) with a new PC or sometimes by itself if the
end user meets Microsoft's criteria. It has a install CD and is the same as
a full retail version except it will not upgrade from a previous version and
the license is tied to the first PC it is installed on.

Kerry

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Example of a genuine generic Microsoft OEM copy of Windows XP:

Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102151

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| What's a "generic OEM"?
| An illegal copy?
| --
| Dennis S.

 

[Alias]

Please read Richard Urban's reply. He is a
heck of a lot more knowledgeable than you
and your tendancy to distort information.

Sorry, my bad. You usually recommend the retail version. You don't need
to get personal about it.

Alias

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Sorry, my bad. You usually recommend the retail version. You don't need
to get personal about it.

Alias

You commit an unfounded personal attack (one of those ad hominim
attacks that you're always whining about), and then *you* accuse Carey
of getting personal? That's rich!


--

Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Mistoffolees]

Sorry, my bad. You usually recommend the retail version. You don't need
to get personal about it.

Alias

Actually, the proper recommendation should be the "retail"
version. It is the responsibility of the buyer to specify
whether he/she wishes to buy the OEM version. The seller
has no idea whether or not the buyer really understands the
conditions of being a "builder" and the support limitations
with the OEM version.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

What's a "generic OEM"?
An illegal copy?

No, it's not at all illegal. A generic OEM version is simply one that has
not been customized by a particular OEM. It's identical to the retail
version except for the following:

1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's installed on.
It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, or given away.

2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade.

3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them with
a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your OEM; that
support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or you can get
support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups.



Actually, as far as what's on the CD, the only real difference between a
retail Full version and a generic OEM one is number 2 above. (and the text
of the EULA) The other two points are licensing issues.

 

[Guest]

No, I got what I thought was a nice little MicroATX from NewEgg and went to
town! Oops! And yes, Emachines & I had quite a lively runaround (via
e-mail) before they told me I'd just lost my virginity! Too bad! So sad!
Buy now!

Ya know though, I really don't think they know how this will impact what
people like you & I tell the uninnitiated seeking computer advice.. This one
will NOT pass! Thanks again Dixonian69. ~ LHaw ~ Portland, OR.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for all the wonderful information from everyone. This is my first
post and I was shocked at how quickly you guys all responded. Next time I
won't wait 12 hours before checking for replies!

You ALL have given me great info, but I gotta say Carey Frisch bottom-lined
it the best. It was NOT what I wanted to hear, and if others have a way to
get around me having to buy something I thought I already owned, PLEASE LET
ME KNOW!

Having said that, what about this:

Can that "Repair Install" use the activation code for the original
eEmachines factory install, thereby leaving the newly purchased XP, available
for use elsewhere? I know this sounds sorta flakey, but let's face it, the
idea that you have to RE-PURCHASE your OS under such circumstances is pretty
flakey too!

Thanks again, to all of you ~ LHaw