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[NoStop]

But I'll keep trying. One day Linux will be more friendly to my system.

Kurt,

In my last reply to you, I mentioned that knoppix can be used to assist one
getting at their data when Windows crashes and won't start. The typical
way, as I'm sure you know is to install another copy of XP on another
partition or hard drive and get at the data that way. The Knoppix live cd
can be helpful without the need to do that and much quicker.

Here's an article on doing just that ...

http://www.shockfamily.net/cedric/knoppix/

Being a Windows troubleshooter, you might find it useful.

Cheers

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[Michael Stevens]

<snipped everything to preserve the thread>
Absolutely brilliant, a true textbook example in the art of newsgroup
manipulation.

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[kurttrail]

<snipped everything to preserve the thread>
Absolutely brilliant, a true textbook example in the art of newsgroup
manipulation.

Ah shucks! <vbg>

Isn't it much more fun to watch when you aren't involved? ;-)

Seriously, what I did was not manipulation. I couldn't manipulate him
into writing some of the moronic things he wrote. All I did was show he
did really believe what he first said.

"It takes ignorance, to know ignorance." Which on the face of it would
mean that he was admitting his own ignorance to be able to state it.
But notice I did bring that up in my first response to him.

He should have just gave up on the conversation about half way through,
and his self-esteem would have been mostly intact, but he was too
ignorant to leave well enough alone, and just kept diggin' a deeper and
deeper hole for himself, to the point where he was practically
bitch-slapping himself in the end.

And the funniest part of it all, it was all over nothing!

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[NoStop]

<snipped everything to preserve the thread>
Absolutely brilliant, a true textbook example in the art of newsgroup
manipulation.

"newsgroup manipulation"? By offering information on a valuable tool used to
rescue data from a crashed operating system and recognized by such in the
industry? Your small mindedness is really mind boggling.

Man, you sure do have a problem, don't you? I bet you don't approve of using
Linksys routers because they run on Linux. I'm surprised you stoop low
enough to even participate in newsgroups, since they are an innovation from
*NIX and run through *NIX/Linux servers. Do you also avoid visiting
websites that run Linux/Apache also? I guess you never use Google, because
gawd forbid, it runs on Linux. I wonder if your ISP is running Windoze or
is your only access to the Net sadly happening through a *NIX server? You
are a purist at heart, I'm sure. But if you are so totally reliant on
Windoze and truly refuse any dealings at all with the other alternative, we
wouldn't even be having this conversation, because you wouldn't even get on
the Net. Then again, that might be doing the Net community a favor.

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[Kerry Brown]

"newsgroup manipulation"? By offering information on a valuable tool used
to
rescue data from a crashed operating system and recognized by such in the
industry? Your small mindedness is really mind boggling.

Man, you sure do have a problem, don't you? I bet you don't approve of
using
Linksys routers because they run on Linux. I'm surprised you stoop low
enough to even participate in newsgroups, since they are an innovation
from
*NIX and run through *NIX/Linux servers. Do you also avoid visiting
websites that run Linux/Apache also? I guess you never use Google, because
gawd forbid, it runs on Linux. I wonder if your ISP is running Windoze or
is your only access to the Net sadly happening through a *NIX server? You
are a purist at heart, I'm sure. But if you are so totally reliant on
Windoze and truly refuse any dealings at all with the other alternative,
we
wouldn't even be having this conversation, because you wouldn't even get
on
the Net. Then again, that might be doing the Net community a favor.

What do any of your points have to do with running linux on a desktop pc? I
believe your agument started about linux on the desktop. I don't think
anyone ever posted anything to this thread about linux not being a great
server OS.

Kerry

 

[kurttrail]

"newsgroup manipulation"? <snip>

LOL! I hoping you are just not seeing everything in the thread.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...dca40/a2601c214c455a8f?hl=en#a2601c214c455a8f

You'll see that Mike was talking about my conversation with Tony Norman,
and "newsgroup manipulation" had absolutely nothing to do with Linux.

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[kurttrail]

Kurt,

A really nice live cd to try is knoppix, if you haven't tried it. It
is the most jam packed single cd I've ever seen, with just tons of
goodies on it. Even a Windows user would appreciate some of the tools
available for troubleshooting Windows systems that have really broken.

http://www.knoppix.org/

You might want to download the ISO and try it out sometime. Sure
offers so much more than Linspire. Runs completely from the CD and in
RAM. Won't touch your existing system, so you can play with it all
you like without fear of screwing up Windows in any way.

And to address what Michael Stevens said about user friendly distros
and needing to purchase a license to get full benefits. I suggest
looking into Mandrake (now called Mandriva), which is recognized as
the most user friendly and easiest to install for someone only
familiar with Windows. You can pickup over 18,000 packages and you
don't need to spend a cent.

Cheers

Knoppix died in about the same 5 seconds it took Linspire to die, which
makes sense since they are both derivatives of Debian.

That makes 3 live CD versions that croaked on my computer in the last 3
days. I'm sure as hell ain't gonna install Linux to a harddrive until I
find a Live CD version of it that will get to the desktop.

To be fair, I've built myself a decent Multimedia system:

MSI 915G Combo Mobo, using the On-board digital out sound, and On-board
NIC

2 GeIL 512MB DDR2-533 PC4300 Dual Channel Memory

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz, LGA775, 1MB L2, 800 MHz FSB

Highpoint RocketRAID 133 w/ 3 Maxtor 40GB HDs in a RAID 0 Array

1 120GB Maxtor IDE HD & 1 Maxtor 120GB USB2 HD

PowerColor x800 XL 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI-E x16 Video Card

Syntax Olevia 27" LCD HDTV

ATI HDTV WONDER

Lite-On CDRW LTR-48125W, 48x12x48

Sony DVD±RW DWD22A 16x/4x/16x DVD+RW, 8x/4x/16x DVD-RW, 2.4x DVD+R DL,
48x/24x/48x CD-RW

Kenwood 5.1 HTB-306.

Epson 880

With Windows 2003 Server, the only thing that doesn't work is the ATI
HDTV Wonder, everything else works like a charm.

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[NoStop]

Knoppix died in about the same 5 seconds it took Linspire to die, which
makes sense since they are both derivatives of Debian.

That makes 3 live CD versions that croaked on my computer in the last 3
days. I'm sure as hell ain't gonna install Linux to a harddrive until I
find a Live CD version of it that will get to the desktop.

To be fair, I've built myself a decent Multimedia system:

MSI 915G Combo Mobo, using the On-board digital out sound, and On-board
NIC

2 GeIL 512MB DDR2-533 PC4300 Dual Channel Memory

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz, LGA775, 1MB L2, 800 MHz FSB

Highpoint RocketRAID 133 w/ 3 Maxtor 40GB HDs in a RAID 0 Array

1 120GB Maxtor IDE HD & 1 Maxtor 120GB USB2 HD

PowerColor x800 XL 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI-E x16 Video Card

Syntax Olevia 27" LCD HDTV

ATI HDTV WONDER

Lite-On CDRW LTR-48125W, 48x12x48

Sony DVD±RW DWD22A 16x/4x/16x DVD+RW, 8x/4x/16x DVD-RW, 2.4x DVD+R DL,
48x/24x/48x CD-RW

Kenwood 5.1 HTB-306.

Epson 880

With Windows 2003 Server, the only thing that doesn't work is the ATI
HDTV Wonder, everything else works like a charm.

OK, here's a suggestion in case you didn't try it. Unplug the USB2 drive and
try and boot knoppix. See if that works for you. After you're in the GUI
you can plug the USB2 drive in.

Just a thought. The Highpoint, I don't know. Those RAID systems are kinda
wierd because they're not real hardware raid, but software raid. Kinda
funny beasts. (I'm not suggesting you disconnect the RAID )

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[Michael Stevens]

In

"newsgroup manipulation"? By offering information on a valuable tool
used to rescue data from a crashed operating system and recognized by
such in the industry? Your small mindedness is really mind boggling.

Man, you sure do have a problem, don't you? I bet you don't approve
of using Linksys routers because they run on Linux. I'm surprised you
stoop low enough to even participate in newsgroups, since they are an
innovation from *NIX and run through *NIX/Linux servers. Do you also
avoid visiting websites that run Linux/Apache also? I guess you never
use Google, because gawd forbid, it runs on Linux. I wonder if your
ISP is running Windoze or is your only access to the Net sadly
happening through a *NIX server? You are a purist at heart, I'm sure.
But if you are so totally reliant on Windoze and truly refuse any
dealings at all with the other alternative, we wouldn't even be
having this conversation, because you wouldn't even get on the Net.
Then again, that might be doing the Net community a favor.

My Oh My! Where did you come from and what does anything you said relate to
my reply? LOL
I like Linux, also MAC, but I am more comfortable with Windows, but that has
nothing to do with my original post and your reply to my post.

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[kurttrail]

OK, here's a suggestion in case you didn't try it. Unplug the USB2
drive and try and boot knoppix. See if that works for you. After
you're in the GUI you can plug the USB2 drive in.

No go. Even tried a failsafe boot, and it last about 2 seconds longer
than a normal one.

Just a thought. The Highpoint, I don't know. Those RAID systems are
kinda wierd because they're not real hardware raid, but software
raid. Kinda funny beasts. (I'm not suggesting you disconnect the RAID
)

Huh? The PCI RAID card is not hardware?

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[NoStop]

Huh? The PCI RAID card is not hardware?

The card is "hardware" in the general use of the term, but in the RAID world
there is "software RAID" and "hardware RAID". What you have there is
referred to as "software RAID".

You need three things to call a controller "hardware RAID". One is the
on-board processor which will handle RAID requests instead of the main
processor. The other is the XOR chip which calculates the parity
information. The last is memory. The memory serves two purposes. The memory
helps the on-board processor store some data and the other purpose is
cache. The 3ware and many others have all three components that make
hardware RAID controllers. The Highpoints and Promises do not. Of course
expect to pay more for a real hardware RAID controller.

Sofware RAID controllers like you have use the main processor (your CPU) to
handle either the RAID requests or XOR. It's sort of like the difference
between real hardware modems and winmodems. The negative with sofware
RAID is of course it's sharing the same PCI bus with other peripherals and
using up clock cycles in the CPU.

The logic for your sofware RAID card is done in a software driver that would
be proprietary and I don't know whether they provide a driver for Linux?
They might, you'll have to check that yourself. There might be an open
source driver available. Again, I didn't check.

Checkout this article at Tom's Hardware for a little about the difference
between hardware RAID and sofware RAID.

http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20040625/index.html


Cheers

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