eMachines OEM XP woes - time to buy $tandard?

[Duncan905]

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

 

[kurttrail]

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

Your problems have nothing to do with the version of OS you are using.
Sounds more like user ignorance to me, with a dash of buying a cheap,
piece of sh*t computer.

Have you tried installing the latest nVidia drivers after your
install/restore?

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[Al Dykes]

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

Was your OEM disk made by Microsoft or eMachine ?

I don't think your problems have anything to do with XP/Home vs Pro.
but buying genuine media and doing a fresh install may cure you
problems.

You say you've ghosted an XP install into your machine. Where did the
ghost image come from ?


Are you doing fresh installation ?

 

[Tony Norman]

It takes ignorance, to know ignorance.

 

[Menno Hershberger]

(e-mail address removed)-spam.invalid (Duncan905) wrote in [email protected]:

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

Probably not all of them since the machine is that new. Doesn't eMachine
come with a CD that has the drivers on it? Or if nvidia drivers are your
only problem you could go to www.nvidia.com and get the latest ones.

 

[kurttrail]

It takes ignorance, to know ignorance.

Really? I did not know that. ROFL!

And Tony Moron, I didn't say that I KNEW it was ignorance.

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[NoStop]

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Great. May I suggest GNU/Linux. A Mandrake/Mandriva distro would serve you
well. Simple to install and loaded with useful apps. You can get it for
free by just downloading the ISOs and you will never have problems with a
corrupt Registry again. Add to that, stability and security and
hundreds of free software packages and I'm sure you'll be very happy. You
won't even miss having to constantly worry about trojans, adware, spyware,
viruses and other malware. You computer will become fun to use again and
totally configurable with a beautiful desktop ... actually up to 8 if you
wish.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

No.

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STOP the dummying down of America - Move to a REAL o/s.

 

[kurttrail]

Great. May I suggest GNU/Linux. A Mandrake/Mandriva distro would
serve you well. Simple to install and loaded with useful apps. You
can get it for free by just downloading the ISOs and you will never
have problems with a corrupt Registry again. Add to that,
stability and security and hundreds of free software packages and I'm
sure you'll be very happy. You won't even miss having to constantly
worry about trojans, adware, spyware, viruses and other malware. You
computer will become fun to use again and totally configurable with a
beautiful desktop ... actually up to 8 if you wish.


No.

That's right! You can't rely on GNU/Linux either to detect "the onboard
devices out of the gate!"

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[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

NoStop

You are in the wrong newsgroups.. and you are not being truthful to the OP..
Linux is subject to breaches, so the OP will not see an end to trojans et
al.. the hundreds of free programs are not all of good quality.. I just took
a look at the defects list in the OpenOffice.org page.. not a pretty sight
at all.. no problems?.. I don't think so.. all fun?.. maybe if you like that
kind of fun..


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[Malke]

That's right! You can't rely on GNU/Linux either to detect "the
onboard devices out of the gate!"

Everything else aside - Tony, I strongly suspect that this is not a
software problem (Windows) at all but a hardware problem since you've
had problems from the very beginning. Return the lemon to eMachines and
make them replace it. Constantly trying software solutions to hardware
problems is futile.

Malke

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I've had trouble with my eMachines desktop's WinXP from the getgo
(11/03). The often reported "corrupt/missing Registry files" struck
early, and I managed to get a Repair Console CD from eMachines. After
doing a ghost install of OEM XP onto a new HD, which lasted a few
months, and more recently restoring the OS to its install state and
having the onboard nVidia devices 'disappear', I'm ready to try
something else.

Would purchasing a retail version of XP Home Standard (w/SP2) fix my
woes? My hope is that installing the retail version will be more
stable somehow. Can I rely on it detecting the onboard devices out of
the gate?

The type of software license you use will have little or no affect
towards addressing what appear to be hardware inadequacies. I suggest
that you insist that eMachines honor your computer's warranty and fix it.



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[Guest]

There seems to be smarter people on this then me, but losing Reg files &
device drivers, I have to ask about viruses? Are you sure your system is
clean? I am making a couple assumptions; this Emachine is OEM with the nvideo
card? Do you have a factory restore CD? If these are correct, find a system
boot disk with Fdisk on it, nock the drive down, Emachine most of the time
has a hidden partition (D on the HD. You might have a boot virus on this
thing. Nock down the HD with fdisk, then format the whole (complete) drive,
restore the OEM system to factory specs and see if it will work then. Just
trying to help.

 

[Tony Norman]

"Sounds more like user ignorance to me, with a dash of buying a cheap,
piece of sh*t computer."

Now did you, or did you not say that?

 

[JS]

NoStop

You are in the wrong newsgroups.. and you are not being truthful to the OP..
Linux is subject to breaches, so the OP will not see an end to trojans et
al.. the hundreds of free programs are not all of good quality.. I just took
a look at the defects list in the OpenOffice.org page.. not a pretty sight
at all.. no problems?.. I don't think so.. all fun?.. maybe if you like that
kind of fun..

A distored and biased assessment of Linux from a Microsoft MVP. What a surprise.

Firstly, /of course/ Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in no way
detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure than any version
of Windows.

As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of good
quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention the high-rolling
Free Open Source programs that simply kill the opposition -- think Apache, think
gcc, think Mozilla Firefox (currently digging in to IE's market share because
the latter is so horrendously insecure. Even the US government recommends you
use something else, folks).

In any case, raising the spectre of quality is a bit rich coming from a
Microsoft proponent. After all, this company is notorious for releasing buggy,
insecure software. I only have to start a newsgroup post with "begin " and most
of the people in this group won't be able to read the message for Christ's sake!

And let's not talk about third-party rubbish like Symantec.

Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open mind, you
have no right to denigrate it.

In other words, get over it. There's more to life than Microsoft.

 

[kurttrail]

"Sounds more like user ignorance to me, with a dash of buying a cheap,
piece of sh*t computer."

Now did you, or did you not say that?

Yep. And that means that it has the appearance of ignorance, not that I
knew it was ignorance.

So you statement, "It takes ignorance, to know ignorance," would not be
applicable to me. Plus your statement is just plain illogical to begin
with.

Ignorance means lack of knowledge or education. Are you so stupid that
you need an explanation of why your statem is illogical?

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[Alias]

A distored and biased assessment of Linux from a Microsoft MVP. What a
surprise.

Firstly, /of course/ Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in no way
detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure than any
version of Windows.

As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of good
quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention the
high-rolling Free Open Source programs that simply kill the opposition --
think Apache, think gcc, think Mozilla Firefox (currently digging in to
IE's market share because the latter is so horrendously insecure. Even the
US government recommends you use something else, folks).

In any case, raising the spectre of quality is a bit rich coming from a
Microsoft proponent. After all, this company is notorious for releasing
buggy, insecure software. I only have to start a newsgroup post with
"begin " and most of the people in this group won't be able to read the
message for Christ's sake!

And let's not talk about third-party rubbish like Symantec.

Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open mind,
you have no right to denigrate it.

In other words, get over it. There's more to life than Microsoft.

I've used windows online since 97. I have never gotten a virus or trojan. I
am not a computer expert. How do you explain that, hot shot? Makes me wonder
if you went to Linux because you don't know what safe hex is ... seems
you're the one that has to "get over it".

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

A distored and biased assessment of Linux from a Microsoft MVP. What
a surprise.
Firstly, /of course/ Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in
no way detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure
than any version of Windows.

As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of
good quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention
the high-rolling Free Open Source programs that simply kill the
opposition -- think Apache, think gcc, think Mozilla Firefox
(currently digging in to IE's market share because the latter is so
horrendously insecure. Even the US government recommends you use
something else, folks).
In any case, raising the spectre of quality is a bit rich coming from
a Microsoft proponent. After all, this company is notorious for
releasing buggy, insecure software. I only have to start a newsgroup
post with "begin " and most of the people in this group won't be
able to read the message for Christ's sake!
And let's not talk about third-party rubbish like Symantec.

Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open
mind, you have no right to denigrate it.

In other words, get over it. There's more to life than Microsoft.

Linux advocates are stupid, especially when their advocacy of Linux is
off-topic to the discussion at hand. Where did the OP ask anything
about Linux?

Linux is not the cureall to all computer-related problems. It is just a
different way of spinning a wheel, and has its own problems, especially
when it comes to setup and ease of use. Yeah, that may make Linux a
little more secure than Windows, but that also makes it harder for
novices to actually use Linux. If the OP cannot successfully install
and configure Windows, which is much easier to do than Linux, how in the
world is the OP gonna be able install and configure Linux?

Anyone with a truely open mind will see that the advise to move to Linux
is not on-topic, and is not a better solution to the OP's problem. And
you Linux advocates just look like stupid Zealots in the process!

God, please save Linux from its over-zealous advocates! Amen!

And you cannot accuse me of having any towards Microsoft! Just checkout
my sig.

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[JS]

I've used windows online since 97. I have never gotten a virus or trojan. I
am not a computer expert. How do you explain that, hot shot?

What an idiot. That's like saying "The Ford Pinto is totally safe because *mine*
never blew up in a rear smash!"

Besides, I don't believe you. Either you're lying, or you just never detected
the malware.

Makes me wonder
if you went to Linux because you don't know what safe hex is ... seems
you're the one that has to "get over it".

No, I went to Linux because I *do* know what 'safe hex' is.

 

[JS]

Linux advocates are stupid, especially when their advocacy of Linux is
off-topic to the discussion at hand. Where did the OP ask anything
about Linux?

Linux is not the cureall to all computer-related problems. It is just a
different way of spinning a wheel, and has its own problems, especially
when it comes to setup and ease of use. Yeah, that may make Linux a
little more secure than Windows, but that also makes it harder for
novices to actually use Linux. If the OP cannot successfully install
and configure Windows, which is much easier to do than Linux, how in the
world is the OP gonna be able install and configure Linux?

Dude, that argument is so 90's.

Nowadays, installing Linux is *easier* than installing Windows, simply because
you don't have to worry about installing all your devices after the installation
of the OS.

You can even run Linux from CD and have a fully functional Linux system in 2
minutes.

Anyone with a truely open mind will see that the advise to move to Linux
is not on-topic, and is not a better solution to the OP's problem. And
you Linux advocates just look like stupid Zealots in the process!

I agree that the original Linux advocacy post was off-topic and unhelpful. I'm
just responding to the MVP's one-sided comments about Linux.

God, please save Linux from its over-zealous advocates! Amen!

And you cannot accuse me of having any towards Microsoft! Just checkout
my sig.

Look at your sig indeed - your 'rebellion' is completely toothless because you
lack either the daring or wherewithal to find an alternative to MS's products.

No wonder you're a little bitter.

 

[Alias]

What an idiot.

Are you always so charming?

That's like saying "The Ford Pinto is totally safe because *mine* never
blew up in a rear smash!"

No, that's like saying I never got a virus or trojan. Why is that so
difficult for you to understand?

Besides, I don't believe you. Either you're lying, or you just never
detected the malware.

Really? And your proof for this is??? It's true _whether you believe it or
not_.

No, I went to Linux because I *do* know what 'safe hex' is.

No, you went to Linux because you're too stupid to use Windows without
problems and you enjoy putting on the style on MS newsgroups. All ego, dude.

Alias