H
Hugh Candlin
Bruce Hagen said:
There is NOTHING wrong with my clock.
You should be able to figure out the perfectly valid reason
for your mistake.
Neither do I, but I didn't start the thread, so I wouldn't know.
There is NOTHING wrong with my clock.
You should be able to figure out the perfectly valid reason
for your mistake.
Neither do I, but I didn't start the thread, so I wouldn't know.
B
Bruce Hagen
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Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
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Hugh Candlin
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Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So
the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
Gotcha. I didn't reset my clock.
There's a much more innocent, if less obvious explanation, than that.
Gary (Terhune) and I were having a little chat.
I posted, he responded, and I composed a response to him,
which went into my OE Outbox.
I then had to leave the house PDQ, so I shut down
before OE got a chance to Send/Receive.
Consequently, the message sat in my Outbox until I logged on again, which,
according to the time stamps on SYSTEM.INI and NDISLOG.TXT
was at 8.41 PM.
But don't feel too bad. You were sorta correct.
I did compose my masterpiece hours earlier,
but the causative conclusion that you jumped to was incorrect.
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So
the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
Gotcha. I didn't reset my clock.
There's a much more innocent, if less obvious explanation, than that.
Gary (Terhune) and I were having a little chat.
I posted, he responded, and I composed a response to him,
which went into my OE Outbox.
I then had to leave the house PDQ, so I shut down
before OE got a chance to Send/Receive.
Consequently, the message sat in my Outbox until I logged on again, which,
according to the time stamps on SYSTEM.INI and NDISLOG.TXT
was at 8.41 PM.
But don't feel too bad. You were sorta correct.
I did compose my masterpiece hours earlier,
but the causative conclusion that you jumped to was incorrect.
G
Gary S. Terhune
Bruce,
Please do not post in HTML, particularly with embedded images. In the first place, it quadrupled the size of your post while communicating nothing that couldn't be communicated in plain text and with even less effort on your part. More importantly, any wise user of OE knows to read email and news in Plain Text and would be a fool to open an embedded image besides. Hell, I took steps to make sure you really are an MVP and that your posting headers matched other examples of your work before I did it.
I'd continue on the issue of your overall demeanor in this exchange, but I assume Hugh can handle that very well himself. Suffice it to say that IMO you could concentrate a bit more on living up to that last initial that we share in our signatures. (What's a ~IB-CA~, anyway?)
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
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Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
Please do not post in HTML, particularly with embedded images. In the first place, it quadrupled the size of your post while communicating nothing that couldn't be communicated in plain text and with even less effort on your part. More importantly, any wise user of OE knows to read email and news in Plain Text and would be a fool to open an embedded image besides. Hell, I took steps to make sure you really are an MVP and that your posting headers matched other examples of your work before I did it.
I'd continue on the issue of your overall demeanor in this exchange, but I assume Hugh can handle that very well himself. Suffice it to say that IMO you could concentrate a bit more on living up to that last initial that we share in our signatures. (What's a ~IB-CA~, anyway?)
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
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Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
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Bruce Hagen
My apologies.
B
Bruce Hagen
Gary,
All your points are well taken. I always post in Plain Text except
when including a screen shot, which is not uncommon in the OE
newsgroup.
I should have let the clock issue alone since it was in the "Past" and
not the future which I wouldn't be the first person to advise someone
to set the time on the clock. As for my demeanor, I didn't feel it was
that out of hand. Hugh didn't seem to be upset, but I sent him my
apologies regardless.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
(Imperial Beach, CA)
Bruce,
Please do not post in HTML, particularly with embedded images. In the
first place, it quadrupled the size of your post while communicating
nothing that couldn't be communicated in plain text and with even less
effort on your part. More importantly, any wise user of OE knows to
read email and news in Plain Text and would be a fool to open an
embedded image besides. Hell, I took steps to make sure you really are
an MVP and that your posting headers matched other examples of your
work before I did it.
I'd continue on the issue of your overall demeanor in this exchange,
but I assume Hugh can handle that very well himself. Suffice it to say
that IMO you could concentrate a bit more on living up to that last
initial that we share in our signatures. (What's a ~IB-CA~, anyway?)
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
View in HTML:
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an
hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
All your points are well taken. I always post in Plain Text except
when including a screen shot, which is not uncommon in the OE
newsgroup.
I should have let the clock issue alone since it was in the "Past" and
not the future which I wouldn't be the first person to advise someone
to set the time on the clock. As for my demeanor, I didn't feel it was
that out of hand. Hugh didn't seem to be upset, but I sent him my
apologies regardless.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
(Imperial Beach, CA)
Bruce,
Please do not post in HTML, particularly with embedded images. In the
first place, it quadrupled the size of your post while communicating
nothing that couldn't be communicated in plain text and with even less
effort on your part. More importantly, any wise user of OE knows to
read email and news in Plain Text and would be a fool to open an
embedded image besides. Hell, I took steps to make sure you really are
an MVP and that your posting headers matched other examples of your
work before I did it.
I'd continue on the issue of your overall demeanor in this exchange,
but I assume Hugh can handle that very well himself. Suffice it to say
that IMO you could concentrate a bit more on living up to that last
initial that we share in our signatures. (What's a ~IB-CA~, anyway?)
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
View in HTML:
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an
hour. So the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
D
Dan
I hope you will post in the future in our newsgroup, Bruce Hagen and I
appreciate the information. The screen shot did not come up for me because
I read in plain text as advised by Gary Terhune to prevent system
vulnerabilities. I am glad you apologized to Hugh and I have apologized to
Hugh in the past as well and I hope Hugh will have it in his heart to
forgive the both of us for grievous errors. I eagerly await Hugh's
response.
appreciate the information. The screen shot did not come up for me because
I read in plain text as advised by Gary Terhune to prevent system
vulnerabilities. I am glad you apologized to Hugh and I have apologized to
Hugh in the past as well and I hope Hugh will have it in his heart to
forgive the both of us for grievous errors. I eagerly await Hugh's
response.
H
Hugh Candlin
Bruce Hagen said:
Accepted. A storm in a demitasse, as they say in la Jolla......
D
Dan
:> Very eloquent, Hugh Candlin.
Hugh Candlin said:
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Gary S. Terhune
Last night wasn't a great one for me, Bruce, and after reading again I see that while your messages were perhaps curt, it was my own testiness that colored them as being more offensive than they really were. That and the fact that I tend to hammer on people (under my breath, at least) for HTML messages, whether in News or in Email. My own apologies to you.
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button, <s>. But I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button, <s>. But I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
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Jim Pickering
But I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
It's where Bruce lives. Not as nice as Quincy, but he calls it home. <vbg>
Jim Pickering
It's where Bruce lives. Not as nice as Quincy, but he calls it home. <vbg>
Jim Pickering
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Bruce Hagen
Hi Gary,
I posted it under my sig. Imperial Beach, CA.
No need to apologize. I could have been a little less on the
offensive. I was getting a little testy myself because I had deleted
that thread 3 times yesterday and it kept coming back with a new Re:.
I don't even remember what the original post was, but I did know there
was no reason for it to be x-posted to Outlook Express.
I did jump to a conclusion with Hugh's post. OE is a fickle animal. If
you put a regular e-mail in the Outbox at 9AM, but don't send it until
10AM, the recipient will see 10AM. Not so with posts, which I
temporarily had a brain fade. They will show the time the message went
to the Outbox. Why the difference? Who knows, but he's on second. <g>
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
Last night wasn't a great one for me, Bruce, and after reading again I
see that while your messages were perhaps curt, it was my own
testiness that colored them as being more offensive than they really
were. That and the fact that I tend to hammer on people (under my
breath, at least) for HTML messages, whether in News or in Email. My
own apologies to you.
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message
obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button,
<s>. But I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
I posted it under my sig. Imperial Beach, CA.
No need to apologize. I could have been a little less on the
offensive. I was getting a little testy myself because I had deleted
that thread 3 times yesterday and it kept coming back with a new Re:.
I don't even remember what the original post was, but I did know there
was no reason for it to be x-posted to Outlook Express.
I did jump to a conclusion with Hugh's post. OE is a fickle animal. If
you put a regular e-mail in the Outbox at 9AM, but don't send it until
10AM, the recipient will see 10AM. Not so with posts, which I
temporarily had a brain fade. They will show the time the message went
to the Outbox. Why the difference? Who knows, but he's on second. <g>
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~
Last night wasn't a great one for me, Bruce, and after reading again I
see that while your messages were perhaps curt, it was my own
testiness that colored them as being more offensive than they really
were. That and the fact that I tend to hammer on people (under my
breath, at least) for HTML messages, whether in News or in Email. My
own apologies to you.
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message
obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button,
<s>. But I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
H
Hugh Candlin
Last night wasn't a great one for me, Bruce, and after reading again I see
that while your messages were perhaps curt, it was my own testiness that
colored them as being more offensive than they really were. That and the
fact that I tend to hammer on people (under my breath, at least) for HTML
messages, whether in News or in Email. My own apologies to you.
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message
obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button, <s>. But
I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
====================
IB, aka Imperial Beach, "the place to be",
is in the southwest corner of CA-lifornia,
roughly between Chula Vista and San Ysidro,
just north of the Mexican border.
Take I-5 So. from San Diego and exit W on Palm Ave.
Kinda quiet, as California beaches go.
It does get a lot of thru traffic, though,
as the main drag cuts back north along the spit
into Coronado and the Naval Station,
allowing you to bypass the Coronado Bay bridge.
Coronado is the home of the Hotel del Coronado,
known to some as a location for the movie
"SomeLike It Hot".
that while your messages were perhaps curt, it was my own testiness that
colored them as being more offensive than they really were. That and the
fact that I tend to hammer on people (under my breath, at least) for HTML
messages, whether in News or in Email. My own apologies to you.
FWIW, I had a message all ready to go suggesting that Hugh's message
obviously got caught in the Outbox. He beat me to the Send button, <s>. But
I *still* want to know what a ~IB-CA~ is
====================
IB, aka Imperial Beach, "the place to be",
is in the southwest corner of CA-lifornia,
roughly between Chula Vista and San Ysidro,
just north of the Mexican border.
Take I-5 So. from San Diego and exit W on Palm Ave.
Kinda quiet, as California beaches go.
It does get a lot of thru traffic, though,
as the main drag cuts back north along the spit
into Coronado and the Naval Station,
allowing you to bypass the Coronado Bay bridge.
Coronado is the home of the Hotel del Coronado,
known to some as a location for the movie
"SomeLike It Hot".
G
Gary S. Terhune
Ahh... Well, as much as I have gotten tired of snow over the last couple of weeks, it sure beats drowning in mud!
G
Greg R
However, that won't work on a nt bassed system. This is the one of
the main reasons I use fat 32 with an xp system plus I dual boot with
98se
Greg R
J
Jan Il
Hugh Candlin said:
Yeppers.....my brother lives on 7th St. in IB, just a short ways from the
beach. I lived in Chula Vista for years, then moved to Santee about 8 years
ago. Quite a difference between the two areas, even though only 1/2 hour
apart. Santee gets up to 110 -14 degrees in the summer, and down to the
teens in the winter. I always made people envious by telling them that, in
the winter I can go to the mountains in the morning and play in the snow,
come home at noon, put on my swim suit and spend the afternoon playing at
the beach! And that's the truth.
Jan
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Dan
PCR, this is the MVP that I was talking about below.
View in HTML:
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So
the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
View in HTML:
Not now. But it went to 4:04 PM PST to 9:35 PM PST in less than an hour. So
the *perfectly valid reason* is that you reset your clock.
G
Gary S. Terhune
There are other solutions for NTFS systems, but I've lost track of the research I did a while back.
I was checking out F-Prot today and realized that the growth in definitions files probably makes using even F-Prot from a floppy boot a non-starter. Still looking into that one. However, it's not so difficult to translate that same procedure to a bootable CD where FAT or FAT32 systems are involved, but I haven't tested that yet. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be able to read NTFS without the underlying support of Windows being loaded. What occurred to me was to use the WinXP installation CD to get into a Repair Console, then access the CD from there. I'll have to try it before I can actually recommend it, <s>.
I was checking out F-Prot today and realized that the growth in definitions files probably makes using even F-Prot from a floppy boot a non-starter. Still looking into that one. However, it's not so difficult to translate that same procedure to a bootable CD where FAT or FAT32 systems are involved, but I haven't tested that yet. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be able to read NTFS without the underlying support of Windows being loaded. What occurred to me was to use the WinXP installation CD to get into a Repair Console, then access the CD from there. I'll have to try it before I can actually recommend it, <s>.
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Greg R
I use fat 32 for my xp system because I dual boot.
Also, Just as a tip for people with xp systems that are formatted as
ntfs.
Don’t use the recover console from xp. Use the recover console from
windows 2000 setup disk. It is a lot easier to use and will allow you
to delete and replace files and move to other areas.
Greg R
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Brian A.
I have run it both from a CD and from a separate HD.
--
Brian A.
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
There are other solutions for NTFS systems, but I've lost track of the research I did a while back.
I was checking out F-Prot today and realized that the growth in definitions files probably makes using even F-Prot from a floppy boot a non-starter. Still looking into that one. However, it's not so difficult to translate that same procedure to a bootable CD where FAT or FAT32 systems are involved, but I haven't tested that yet. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be able to read NTFS without the underlying support of Windows being loaded. What occurred to me was to use the WinXP installation CD to get into a Repair Console, then access the CD from there. I'll have to try it before I can actually recommend it, <s>.
--
Brian A.
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
There are other solutions for NTFS systems, but I've lost track of the research I did a while back.
I was checking out F-Prot today and realized that the growth in definitions files probably makes using even F-Prot from a floppy boot a non-starter. Still looking into that one. However, it's not so difficult to translate that same procedure to a bootable CD where FAT or FAT32 systems are involved, but I haven't tested that yet. I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be able to read NTFS without the underlying support of Windows being loaded. What occurred to me was to use the WinXP installation CD to get into a Repair Console, then access the CD from there. I'll have to try it before I can actually recommend it, <s>.