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Eddy
I have XP installed. Can i install Windows server 2003 and dual boot easily?
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
easily?Eddy said:I have XP installed. Can i install Windows server 2003 and dual boot
"Easily" depends on your skills and experience. I would
install a proper boot manager, e.g. XOSL (free!), then
install Windows Server on a separate partition and get
XOSL to hide the two partitions from each other.
Best to practise with XOSL on a spare disk before
going ahead. If you do the wrong thing then you will
lose your WinXP installation.
K
Kerry Brown
Yes you can but the setup is not that straightforward. A better solution may
be Virtual PC. It's free.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
be Virtual PC. It's free.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
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Eddy
Cool i will try Virtual PC, but i want to Dual Boot, not embed it in
another OS.
another OS.
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Eddy
Will XOSL boot multiple installations of the same OS (I have 2 seperate
Win XP Pro installations on 2 different partitions). Now i am adding
server 2003. Will XOSL let me select which XP to boot from?
Win XP Pro installations on 2 different partitions). Now i am adding
server 2003. Will XOSL let me select which XP to boot from?
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
XOSL lets you boot into as many OSs as you have
partitions. Since you can (and should!) hide them from
each other, it does not matter in the lease if you have
multiple installations of the same OS.
Here is my suggested action plan:
1. Remove your current disk.
2. Install the new disk as the primary master disk.
3. Create a 14 GByte FAT partition at the far end. If you have no tools to
do this, do it under WinXP while the current disk is still connected.
4. Install XOSL in this partition..
5. Install a couple of OSs (e.g. DOS) and add them to the XOSL menu.
6. When you're comfortable with XOSL, make your original disk the primary
slave disk.
7. Add your two WinXP installations to the XOSL menu.
Note that if you wanted to go back then you could simply make
your original disk the primary master disk again. Your PC would
then boot as before. XOSL will NOT change the WinXP boot
environment. However, it will create its own MBR on the new disk.
partitions. Since you can (and should!) hide them from
each other, it does not matter in the lease if you have
multiple installations of the same OS.
Here is my suggested action plan:
1. Remove your current disk.
2. Install the new disk as the primary master disk.
3. Create a 14 GByte FAT partition at the far end. If you have no tools to
do this, do it under WinXP while the current disk is still connected.
4. Install XOSL in this partition..
5. Install a couple of OSs (e.g. DOS) and add them to the XOSL menu.
6. When you're comfortable with XOSL, make your original disk the primary
slave disk.
7. Add your two WinXP installations to the XOSL menu.
Note that if you wanted to go back then you could simply make
your original disk the primary master disk again. Your PC would
then boot as before. XOSL will NOT change the WinXP boot
environment. However, it will create its own MBR on the new disk.
K
Kerry Brown
If you're installing a server OS for testing then Virtual PC can be very
useful. It can allow you to simulate networks with the server or servers and
several clients all running in virtual machines. Give the VPC 2007 beta a
try.
useful. It can allow you to simulate networks with the server or servers and
several clients all running in virtual machines. Give the VPC 2007 beta a
try.
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Eddy
I think I will do that. It sounds like a good option. But just 2 questions:
1. Can I install XOSL on my current disk (NTFS)? I have 2 disks in my
computer now. One for the OS installations and one for storage of
pictures, music, etc., which I use on all OSes. I am not going to
install any OS or XOSL on the storage disk, and I can't use another
partition of my OS drive, so can I install XOSL on C: which is one of my
XP installations? or do I have to use a dedicated partition for XOSL?
Also is it OK if my drive is NTFS?
2. I dont have a floppy drive. I dont have DOS. How do I run the install
program?
1. Can I install XOSL on my current disk (NTFS)? I have 2 disks in my
computer now. One for the OS installations and one for storage of
pictures, music, etc., which I use on all OSes. I am not going to
install any OS or XOSL on the storage disk, and I can't use another
partition of my OS drive, so can I install XOSL on C: which is one of my
XP installations? or do I have to use a dedicated partition for XOSL?
Also is it OK if my drive is NTFS?
2. I dont have a floppy drive. I dont have DOS. How do I run the install
program?
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Eddy
I just downloaded VPC 2004 and it worked fine. It was just a little
slow. Is there any major differences in VPC 2007 than 2004?
slow. Is there any major differences in VPC 2007 than 2004?
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
See below.
No. XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition (preferred)
or on an existing FAT/FAT32 partition. However, the it can reside
on any disk, master or slave, primary or secondary. If this is not
suitable then you should look for a different boot manager.
You must make yourself a DOS boot CD. This is a MUST if
you are going to play with OSs and boot loaders. Have a look
at www.bootdisk.com.
Eddy said:I think I will do that. It sounds like a good option. But just 2 questions:
1. Can I install XOSL on my current disk (NTFS)? I have 2 disks in my
computer now. One for the OS installations and one for storage of
pictures, music, etc., which I use on all OSes. I am not going to
install any OS or XOSL on the storage disk, and I can't use another
partition of my OS drive, so can I install XOSL on C: which is one of my
XP installations? or do I have to use a dedicated partition for XOSL?
Also is it OK if my drive is NTFS?
No. XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition (preferred)
or on an existing FAT/FAT32 partition. However, the it can reside
on any disk, master or slave, primary or secondary. If this is not
suitable then you should look for a different boot manager.
2. I dont have a floppy drive. I dont have DOS. How do I run the install
program?
You must make yourself a DOS boot CD. This is a MUST if
you are going to play with OSs and boot loaders. Have a look
at www.bootdisk.com.
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Eddy
Thx for the info, but I dont think this is going to work for me. I can't
have another partition, especially FAT. Is there a way that I can add
another entry to boot.ini to select Server 2003 and keep my other 2 entries?
have another partition, especially FAT. Is there a way that I can add
another entry to boot.ini to select Server 2003 and keep my other 2 entries?
P
Pegasus \(MVP\)
What prevents you from establishing a dedicated XOSL partition
on your new disk?
You can, of course, install Windows Server on any of your spare
partitions, using the native Windows boot manager. If you do this
then the various OSs will share the same set of boot files, which
will probably be the WinXP versions of c:\ntldr and c:\ntdetect.com.
Best to save them in a safe place before going ahead with this
approach. The Windows Server installation will also create an
additional entry in c:\boot.ini.
If you adopt this approach then each OS will have its own
drive letter which will be visible to all other OSs. In other words,
Windows Server might go to drive E: and that's where it will
have to stay forever.
on your new disk?
You can, of course, install Windows Server on any of your spare
partitions, using the native Windows boot manager. If you do this
then the various OSs will share the same set of boot files, which
will probably be the WinXP versions of c:\ntldr and c:\ntdetect.com.
Best to save them in a safe place before going ahead with this
approach. The Windows Server installation will also create an
additional entry in c:\boot.ini.
If you adopt this approach then each OS will have its own
drive letter which will be visible to all other OSs. In other words,
Windows Server might go to drive E: and that's where it will
have to stay forever.
K
Kerry Brown
VPC 2007 seems a little faster. If your CPU supports hardware virtualization
it's a lot faster. It also supports Vista as host or a guest.
it's a lot faster. It also supports Vista as host or a guest.
R
Ron Sommer
Pegasus,
In an earlier post you said, "Create a 14 GByte FAT partition ....".
I thought that was a lot of space.
Now you said, "XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition ....".
The need size is a lot smaller.
--
Ronald Sommer
: See below.
:
: : > I think I will do that. It sounds like a good option. But just 2
: questions:
: >
: > 1. Can I install XOSL on my current disk (NTFS)? I have 2 disks in my
: > computer now. One for the OS installations and one for storage of
: > pictures, music, etc., which I use on all OSes. I am not going to
: > install any OS or XOSL on the storage disk, and I can't use another
: > partition of my OS drive, so can I install XOSL on C: which is one of my
: > XP installations? or do I have to use a dedicated partition for XOSL?
: > Also is it OK if my drive is NTFS?
:
: No. XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition (preferred)
: or on an existing FAT/FAT32 partition. However, the it can reside
: on any disk, master or slave, primary or secondary. If this is not
: suitable then you should look for a different boot manager.
:
:
: > 2. I dont have a floppy drive. I dont have DOS. How do I run the install
: > program?
:
: You must make yourself a DOS boot CD. This is a MUST if
: you are going to play with OSs and boot loaders. Have a look
: at www.bootdisk.com.
:
:
: > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
: > > XOSL lets you boot into as many OSs as you have
: > > partitions. Since you can (and should!) hide them from
: > > each other, it does not matter in the lease if you have
: > > multiple installations of the same OS.
: > >
: > > Here is my suggested action plan:
: > > 1. Remove your current disk.
: > > 2. Install the new disk as the primary master disk.
: > > 3. Create a 14 GByte FAT partition at the far end. If you have no
tools
: to
: > > do this, do it under WinXP while the current disk is still connected.
: > > 4. Install XOSL in this partition..
: > > 5. Install a couple of OSs (e.g. DOS) and add them to the XOSL menu.
: > > 6. When you're comfortable with XOSL, make your original disk the
: primary
: > > slave disk.
: > > 7. Add your two WinXP installations to the XOSL menu.
: > >
: > > Note that if you wanted to go back then you could simply make
: > > your original disk the primary master disk again. Your PC would
: > > then boot as before. XOSL will NOT change the WinXP boot
: > > environment. However, it will create its own MBR on the new disk.
: > >
: > >
: > > : > >> Will XOSL boot multiple installations of the same OS (I have 2
seperate
: > >> Win XP Pro installations on 2 different partitions). Now i am adding
: > >> server 2003. Will XOSL let me select which XP to boot from?
: > >> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
: > >>> : > >>>> I have XP installed. Can i install Windows server 2003 and dual
boot
: > >>> easily?
: > >>>
: > >>> "Easily" depends on your skills and experience. I would
: > >>> install a proper boot manager, e.g. XOSL (free!), then
: > >>> install Windows Server on a separate partition and get
: > >>> XOSL to hide the two partitions from each other.
: > >>>
: > >>> Best to practise with XOSL on a spare disk before
: > >>> going ahead. If you do the wrong thing then you will
: > >>> lose your WinXP installation.
: > >>>
: > >>>
: > >
: > >
:
:
In an earlier post you said, "Create a 14 GByte FAT partition ....".
I thought that was a lot of space.
Now you said, "XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition ....".
The need size is a lot smaller.
--
Ronald Sommer
: See below.
:
: : > I think I will do that. It sounds like a good option. But just 2
: questions:
: >
: > 1. Can I install XOSL on my current disk (NTFS)? I have 2 disks in my
: > computer now. One for the OS installations and one for storage of
: > pictures, music, etc., which I use on all OSes. I am not going to
: > install any OS or XOSL on the storage disk, and I can't use another
: > partition of my OS drive, so can I install XOSL on C: which is one of my
: > XP installations? or do I have to use a dedicated partition for XOSL?
: > Also is it OK if my drive is NTFS?
:
: No. XOSL must reside in its own 15 MByte partition (preferred)
: or on an existing FAT/FAT32 partition. However, the it can reside
: on any disk, master or slave, primary or secondary. If this is not
: suitable then you should look for a different boot manager.
:
:
: > 2. I dont have a floppy drive. I dont have DOS. How do I run the install
: > program?
:
: You must make yourself a DOS boot CD. This is a MUST if
: you are going to play with OSs and boot loaders. Have a look
: at www.bootdisk.com.
:
:
: > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
: > > XOSL lets you boot into as many OSs as you have
: > > partitions. Since you can (and should!) hide them from
: > > each other, it does not matter in the lease if you have
: > > multiple installations of the same OS.
: > >
: > > Here is my suggested action plan:
: > > 1. Remove your current disk.
: > > 2. Install the new disk as the primary master disk.
: > > 3. Create a 14 GByte FAT partition at the far end. If you have no
tools
: to
: > > do this, do it under WinXP while the current disk is still connected.
: > > 4. Install XOSL in this partition..
: > > 5. Install a couple of OSs (e.g. DOS) and add them to the XOSL menu.
: > > 6. When you're comfortable with XOSL, make your original disk the
: primary
: > > slave disk.
: > > 7. Add your two WinXP installations to the XOSL menu.
: > >
: > > Note that if you wanted to go back then you could simply make
: > > your original disk the primary master disk again. Your PC would
: > > then boot as before. XOSL will NOT change the WinXP boot
: > > environment. However, it will create its own MBR on the new disk.
: > >
: > >
: > > : > >> Will XOSL boot multiple installations of the same OS (I have 2
seperate
: > >> Win XP Pro installations on 2 different partitions). Now i am adding
: > >> server 2003. Will XOSL let me select which XP to boot from?
: > >> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
: > >>> : > >>>> I have XP installed. Can i install Windows server 2003 and dual
boot
: > >>> easily?
: > >>>
: > >>> "Easily" depends on your skills and experience. I would
: > >>> install a proper boot manager, e.g. XOSL (free!), then
: > >>> install Windows Server on a separate partition and get
: > >>> XOSL to hide the two partitions from each other.
: > >>>
: > >>> Best to practise with XOSL on a spare disk before
: > >>> going ahead. If you do the wrong thing then you will
: > >>> lose your WinXP installation.
: > >>>
: > >>>
: > >
: > >
:
:
E
Eddy
ok thx i will download VPC 2007
E
Eddy
I am installing Server 2003 in a new partition and use the NTLDR to boot
my OSes.
my OSes.
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Pegasus \(MVP\)
This was a type. It should, of course, have read "14 MBytes".
Thanks for pointing this out.
Thanks for pointing this out.
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