Dual boot

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Guest

My hd (40gb) now have C: (abt 8GB w98se) and D:(ABT 20GB),E: (ABT 12GB for
storage) all FAT32.
Can I install XP into C: as I dont want to use w98se anymore? Also upon boot
up, wil it give me a choice of selecting which OS to use or will it boot XP
automatically? Please advice, thanks
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

twin2 said:
My hd (40gb) now have C: (abt 8GB w98se) and D:(ABT 20GB),E: (ABT 12GB for
storage) all FAT32.
Can I install XP into C: as I dont want to use w98se anymore? Also upon boot
up, wil it give me a choice of selecting which OS to use? Please advice,
thanks

Yes to all of the above.
 
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Ron Sommer

Pegasus (MVP) said:
thanks

Yes to all of the above.
If you install XP to C:, then you won't have 98 SE.
To have a dual boot, XP must be installed to D: or E:.
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Ron Sommer said:
If you install XP to C:, then you won't have 98 SE.
To have a dual boot, XP must be installed to D: or E:.

Why is this? Please give details!
 
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David Candy

It is not true as an absolute. The requirement is that C must be Fat of some type so all OSs can boot from it. As 98 can't read NTFS C can't be NTFS. All MS OSs boot from C drive no matter where most files are stored. But installing XP on C on a fat partition and 98 on D will work.
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

The point is this: WinXP can easily be installed on drive C:,
even if Win98 already resides there. Ron's claim "If you
install XP to C:, then you won't have 98 SE. To have a
dual boot, XP must be installed to D: or E:." is incorrect.

However, in order to minimise interference between the
two OSs, it is recommended that they be installed on
different partitions.

An even better way would be to use a third-party boot
manager that lets you install each OS (complete with
its boot files) in its own partition while hiding away
the other OSs. Each OS would then run completely
independently of any other OS.

Unfortunately Ron chose not to substantiate his claim
that the original poster "won't have Win 98 SE". Of
course he will!
 
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Guest

Very sorry, I miss some info. At moment I have c:98se d:2k e: storage space
for my data only

My question is if I install xp into C:
When I boot up, will the pc ask me for a choice of OS to use? I still want
to have the freedom of OS (2k or XP) to operate, like what I am having now.

Thanks
 
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David Candy

Yes but you won't have features available from NTFS like security on XP. 2K will boot faster (2k will boot using XP's boot files). I've always installed 2k and 98 on same partition (and 2k and XP). A few gotcha but it works.
 
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Guest

The reason all need to be in FAT32 is because my family other pc is running
98se. So if I install XP in FAT32, I take it as the XP will more susceptible
to security issues than XP in NTFS. Is there any free ware to counter this
weakness or will Norton Internet Security be suffice, many thanks.
 
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David Candy

If you run as an admin thgere is no security difference between XP and 98, but limited users can do almost anything on XP Fat32. Assume that everyone is an admin.
 
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Ron Sommer

twin1 forgot to mention in the original post that 2k was installed on D:.
twin1 stated that he no longer wanted 98 SE.
Why recommend installing XP on the same partition with 98 SE causing
problems with both systems and making it very difficult to remove 98 SE?
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Ron Sommer said:
twin1 forgot to mention in the original post that 2k was installed on D:.
twin1 stated that he no longer wanted 98 SE.
Why recommend installing XP on the same partition with 98 SE causing
problems with both systems and making it very difficult to remove 98 SE?

Strange . . . I actually wrote the opposite:
"However, in order to minimise interference between the
two OSs, it is recommended that they be installed on
different partitions."
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Sorry to chip in again: The article you quote goes on to say:
" To work around this issue, start the computer in Windows 2000,
and then copy the NTLDR and Ntdetect.com files from the I386
folder on the Windows XP CD-ROM to the root of the system drive."

In other words, if you installed WinXP first, followed by
Win2000, then you can easily fix the problem by copying
two files from the WinXP CD.

On a general note: You might feel offended by my follow-ups to
your posts. You should not be. One of the great features of newsgroups
is the peer-review mechanism that ensures that the OP gets the
best possible advice. I have been corrected a great many times,
and I learnt a lot in the process.
 
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Ron Sommer

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Strange . . . I actually wrote the opposite:
"However, in order to minimise interference between the
two OSs, it is recommended that they be installed on
different partitions."

In the original post, twin1 had 98 SE on C: and no mention of another
operating system.
twin1 wanted to install XP to C:.
Then twin1 stated, " Also upon boot up, wil it give me a choice of selecting
which OS to use?"

Your reply, "Yes to all of the above." implied that twin1 could install XP
to C: and dual boot.
Since the only other operating system mentioned was 98 SE on C:, your reply
would mean that XP would also be on C:.

I another post, twin1 stated that XP had to be installed on a Fat32
partition because his other computer was using 98 SE. This statement would
not be true unless twinn1 had the computers networked and wanted to see the
files on the XP partition.
 
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Alex Nichol

twin2 said:
My hd (40gb) now have C: (abt 8GB w98se) and D:(ABT 20GB),E: (ABT 12GB for
storage) all FAT32.
Can I install XP into C: as I dont want to use w98se anymore?

Either run the XP CD from the 98, and in Install take Upgrade, which
will replace the 98 with XP retaining installed software; or do a full
clean install after booting the XP CD direct. Enter Setup, and after
the license agreement take New Install. When it asks you to confirm
where, hit ESC; select and delete the current partition and make a new
RAW one to be formatted at the next stage

The important point is the delete. Without that it will just go ahead
and make a new install over the top of the old one

That might be better; then do custom installs of software to put big
items on D: - and move My Documents to D: 8GB is a bit tight otherwise
 
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Dave

A very piss-poor answer to a novice.

Some novices only think about a physical drive as "C:" because they don't
fully understand logical drives or partitions and the installation of an OS
on the same partition as a previous version.

So, before you give a smart-arse answer:-

"Why? Think about it......" Take your own advice and give a well thought
answer along the lines of... "It will over-write the original OS...".

Remember, you were a newby once. Be more constructive in your answers or
don't bother answering if you are going to display your arrogance.

Dave
 

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