Dual Boot W2K and W98SE


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I have a machine with W2k on an NTFS partition on C: and would like to install W98Se on a totally different physical drive so that I can utilize the W98 drive for games, etc. W2K is already installed and this is the first time I have attempted a dual bott configuration. What do I do to retain the programs, etc under W2k and install W98 to dual boot?
 
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Dave Patrick

You can't. The system partition must be a file system common to both OS's In
you case NTFS which won't work.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

Gary said:
I have a machine with W2k on an NTFS partition on C: and would like to
install W98Se on a totally different physical drive so that I can utilize
the W98 drive for games, etc. W2K is already installed and this is the first
time I have attempted a dual bott configuration. What do I do to retain the
programs, etc under W2k and install W98 to dual boot?
 
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Jisha

I used to have a dual boot system... but trashed it because I rarely (if
ever) used the other OS...
I had one drive partitioned for each OS... w2k was NTFS formatted and the
other was FAT32...
All data was on separate physical HDDs
It worked fine for me... but my data was on FAT32 drives at that time.

But... your case is apparantly different...

There is another alternative...
I use this method to simplify keeping my System Drive maintained and in good
condition.


1) My system drive is in a removable HDD cartridge. ... I LOVE these things!
In fact, ALL drives are... except for my RAID-Mirrors.

2) I keep one drive as the "working" system drive.

3) I keep an "Alternate" system drive handy, on which I completely
clean-install win2000, updates, hardware drivers and software, etc.,...
It's easy to do because I simply swap the two system drives in or out
depending on whether I'm doing REAL work (Architect)... or fussing with my
"alternate" drive.

4)Periodically, I switch over my "alternate" drive to the "working" system
drive"... reformat the "old working drive" and re-build a new "alternate"
drive.

SO... if you have a spare 5 1/4" slot, you could use this same technique for
your w2k system, and your gaming system.
It would be like having 2 separate computers for the price of an extra HDD
and 2 Cartridges :)
....just swap 'em in or out!

The only down side is you have to completely shut-down to swap the drives...
but... so what... I'd take that option over giving up NTFS anytime!

These cartridges are available at most major computer stores... you can see
some examples at
http://www.pcmods.com/product.asp?0=230&1=233&3=360
http://www.silverpcs.com/product/RH600IDE

Chris

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Dave Patrick said:
You can't. The system partition must be a file system common to both OS's In
you case NTFS which won't work.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

Gary said:
I have a machine with W2k on an NTFS partition on C: and would like to
install W98Se on a totally different physical drive so that I can utilize
the W98 drive for games, etc. W2K is already installed and this is the first
time I have attempted a dual bott configuration. What do I do to retain the
programs, etc under W2k and install W98 to dual boot?
 
D

Dave Patrick

You don't have to give up NTFS. You simply need a system partition with a
file system common to the OS's you expect to multi-boot with.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

:
.... so what... I'd take that option over giving up NTFS anytime!
 
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Jisha

Dave....You're right... so since Gary (remember him... he started this
thread? ;) want's to dual-boot with each OS on separate Physical drives...
he really shouldn't have any problem with THAT aspect...

His only problem would be not having access to data and other filesfiles on
his NTFS drive...when running under w98se.
....but then again... If I were hot-and-heavy into a great computer game...
why would I want to open a word doc or some other piece of work!

As far as his wanting to "retain the programs, etc under W2k"... no... he'd
of course need to reinstall whatever programs he wants to use under w98se
onto the w98se system drive....

Please, correct me if I'm wrong here... or am missing something (beside the
few screws in my head... :)

Chris

Dave Patrick said:
You don't have to give up NTFS. You simply need a system partition with a
file system common to the OS's you expect to multi-boot with.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

:
... so what... I'd take that option over giving up NTFS anytime!
These cartridges are available at most major computer stores... you can see
some examples at
http://www.pcmods.com/product.asp?0=230&1=233&3=360
http://www.silverpcs.com/product/RH600IDE

Chris
 
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Dave Patrick

You'll need to reinstall both OS's (win98 first) or use a third party boot
manager.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

Gary said:
So, if I install W98 on my E: drive, which is a different physical drive
than my NTFS W2K drive, I should be able to choose the OS I want when I
start my computer. My fear is that I will not be able to boot into W2K after
the W98 install and if I do boot into W2K, I want to be sure my installed
programs are in tact along with my documents. I realize that I will have to
install any programs I want to use with W98 through W98. I am sorry for all
the questions, but I have never doen this before and appreciate any help I
receive. I'm just not sure what to do next...
 
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Dave Patrick

If he swaps the drives around, then there is the issue of 100's (or more)
registry edits to deal with for both the operating system and any installed
programs.
 
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Dave Patrick

Have you considered application compatibility mode?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...g/itpro/compatibility/apcompatmode.asp&e=7651

From the "Run" box
regsvr32 %windir%\AppPatch\slayerui.dll
to enable application compatibility mode.


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]

Gary said:
So, if I install W98 on my E: drive, which is a different physical drive
than my NTFS W2K drive, I should be able to choose the OS I want when I
start my computer. My fear is that I will not be able to boot into W2K after
the W98 install and if I do boot into W2K, I want to be sure my installed
programs are in tact along with my documents. I realize that I will have to
install any programs I want to use with W98 through W98. I am sorry for all
the questions, but I have never doen this before and appreciate any help I
receive. I'm just not sure what to do next...
 
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Jisha

When I was "Dual-Booting", I had installed w2k after the other version of
windows was in place.
The dual-boot aspect was very automated in the w2k install... the other OS
was detected... I answered a few prompts regarding configuration and boot
preferences... etc. It required very little brain-effort.

However, I've never tried the dual-boot installation the other way around
(...your situation)... but I presume the existing w2k installation would be
detected in a similar fashion.

Someone else out there must know that answer...

But, even if your fear that you wont be able to boot into w2k afterwards
actually materializes... you could simply remove the 98se drive and the
system would boot into w2k...maybe a few error messages... or you could
reset the boot device order in the BIOS... but I don't think that will
happen

If I were in your shoes (hope you don't have athlete's foot!)
I would do a total back-up on the w2k system (including the boot sector, if
possible with your back-up software)
and then try it...

In an earlier post, I mentioned using Norton "Ghost" ... if you cloned your
w2k drive first (for the back-up), that would also copy the boot sector...
so you'd be totally safe and free to experiment... If you end up with a
catastrophe... clone the original w2k system back to the original drive...
or replace the original w2k drive with the cloned drive. I've done that many
times... no problems there!

chris


Gary said:
So, if I install W98 on my E: drive, which is a different physical drive
than my NTFS W2K drive, I should be able to choose the OS I want when I
start my computer. My fear is that I will not be able to boot into W2K after
the W98 install and if I do boot into W2K, I want to be sure my installed
programs are in tact along with my documents. I realize that I will have to
install any programs I want to use with W98 through W98. I am sorry for all
the questions, but I have never doen this before and appreciate any help I
receive. I'm just not sure what to do next...
 

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