Drive not shown in My Computer

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Terry Pinnell

The current status of my partitions is shown here, by Partition Magic
7.0, XP Disk Management, and Drive Image 2002 respectively.
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/PM-AfterChanges.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/DI-AfterChanges.gif

But if I open My Compute, my recently-created E partition is not
included.

I'm a novice with partitions and the use of PM and DI and XP Disk
Management, so I'd appreciate learning how to fix this please?
 
MS changed the NTFS format with the creation of XP. PM changed their
software and came out with version 8.0 which is compatable. You are using
version 7.0 which may be the reason for this inconsistency.

FWIW,
Len
 
Len said:
MS changed the NTFS format with the creation of XP. PM changed their
software and came out with version 8.0 which is compatable. You are using
version 7.0 which may be the reason for this inconsistency.

Thanks, but I've had no such inconsistencies previously.
 
DL said:
In Disk management, tried assigning a drive letter?

Thank you. But as you see from the screenshot
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif
XP had assigned one.

However, happily I just went into My Computer again - and E is now
included!

Darned if I know when it came back though. I had rebooted an hour or
two ago (I'm pretty sure I'd done so before, but just did it again to
be sure). Yet directly after that reboot, E was still missing. I've
been doing other work, and at some point it must have cleared the
log-jam or whatever and it's back <g>.

Can you or anyone else possibly help with a follow up question please?
Based on my current state as shown in
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif

and using Drive Image 2002 (and PM 7 if necessary), how can I get back
to the position I had before E got deleted? IOW, I want E to be an
exact copy of C. On booting up I will then see it for a few seconds as
the alternative option "Windows XP Home Edition #1", so that I could
boot into that in an emergency.

I tried using the Copy Drive facility of DI 2002, but it won't copy to
a partition. It deletes it, and copies only to 'Unallocated space'. I
reckon that's partly how I got into this mess (plus a single bad
sector on C, that caused DI to crash with no message.) Yet I must have
accomplished this configuration when I used DI about 2 years ago.
Probably turn out to be blindingly obvious, but so far eluding me...

Thanks for any help.
 
Status report:
Empty partition E is now showing correctly within My Computer.

Current state of partitions is shown in
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/PM-AfterChanges.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/DI-AfterChanges.gif

Requirement:
Using Drive Image 2002 (and PM 7 if necessary), how can I get back
to the position I had before E got deleted?

IOW, I want E to be an exact copy of C. On booting up I will then see
it for a few seconds as the alternative option, "Windows XP Home
Edition #1", so that I could boot into that in an emergency.

I tried using the Copy Drive facility of DI 2002, but it says it will
delete E, and prepares to copy only to 'Unallocated space'. So I
canceled that.

Since then, here's another approach that occured to me this evening. I
thought I should be able to take advantage of the precautionary
*image* of C that I wrote in F yesterday. It seems to me that I should
now be able to restore this to E. But here again DI says it's going to
*delete* E to do this! Delete its contents (if there were any),
obviously yes, but why delete the partition entity itself?

The very last message I get before I commit to this restore is this:
-------
Deleting partition: E:System 2
(NTFS, Primary volume, 12111.5 MB on Disk:2)

Restoring partition(s):
System (*) 8.21 GB
From image file: F:\MyBackup-C8Sep04-1330.pqi
To free space location (12111.5 MB in size) on Disk: 2
-------

Can someone explain to me why I cannot just get the restore into E
please? Why would DI instead place it in 'free space'? If it ends up
in 'free space', how can I assign it the drive letter E, to get things
back into shape?

There's plainly some basic concept here I just haven't grasped.
Scouring the DI manual and hours of googling still hasn't enlightened
me. Surely it shouldn't be this hard to achieve what I'm trying to do?
I somehow accomplished precisely that configuration when I used DI
about 2 years ago. Probably turn out to be blindingly obvious, but so
far it's still eluding me...

Any further help would be much appreciated please.
 
Of course! I'm afraid I just glanced at it

Terry Pinnell said:
Thank you. But as you see from the screenshot
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif
XP had assigned one.

However, happily I just went into My Computer again - and E is now
included!

Darned if I know when it came back though. I had rebooted an hour or
two ago (I'm pretty sure I'd done so before, but just did it again to
be sure). Yet directly after that reboot, E was still missing. I've
been doing other work, and at some point it must have cleared the
log-jam or whatever and it's back <g>.

Can you or anyone else possibly help with a follow up question please?
Based on my current state as shown in
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif

and using Drive Image 2002 (and PM 7 if necessary), how can I get back
to the position I had before E got deleted? IOW, I want E to be an
exact copy of C. On booting up I will then see it for a few seconds as
the alternative option "Windows XP Home Edition #1", so that I could
boot into that in an emergency.

I tried using the Copy Drive facility of DI 2002, but it won't copy to
a partition. It deletes it, and copies only to 'Unallocated space'. I
reckon that's partly how I got into this mess (plus a single bad
sector on C, that caused DI to crash with no message.) Yet I must have
accomplished this configuration when I used DI about 2 years ago.
Probably turn out to be blindingly obvious, but so far eluding me...

Thanks for any help.
 
Some operations with Partition Magic will automatically "Hide" drive
partitions to preserve the boot device's letter. I use PQMagic's DOS
boot mode & will sometimes reboot a 2nd time to PQMagic to check
that no "Hide" operations occurred.

DL said:
Of course! I'm afraid I just glanced at it
 
Terry said:
The current status of my partitions is shown here, by Partition Magic
7.0, XP Disk Management, and Drive Image 2002 respectively.
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/PM-AfterChanges.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/XPDiskMgmt.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/DI-AfterChanges.gif

But if I open My Compute, my recently-created E partition is not
included.

I'm a novice with partitions and the use of PM and DI and XP Disk
Management, so I'd appreciate learning how to fix this please?

Disk Management looks fine, but the drive letter may be hidden. Use
TweakUI - one of the XP Powertoys from (if you have installed XP SP1)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

If you have not installed SP1, the earlier version can be found at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

Once installed you will find it in Start - All Programs - Powertoys for
Windows XP

Its My Computer - Drives page, make sure all the letters concerned are
checked
 
Alex Nichol said:
Disk Management looks fine, but the drive letter may be hidden. Use
TweakUI - one of the XP Powertoys from (if you have installed XP SP1)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

If you have not installed SP1, the earlier version can be found at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

Once installed you will find it in Start - All Programs - Powertoys for
Windows XP

Its My Computer - Drives page, make sure all the letters concerned are
checked

Thanks Alex. I'm happy to report that I appear to have resolved it.

For those that are interested in the detail, or who can help me better
understand this whole area, and for those novices who end up googling
to this post, here's a full account, picking up from my last post:

I couldn't get my mind around this. IOW, why DI wouldn't just place
the restore into E. Why would it place it in 'free space'? If it ends
up in 'free space', how can that carry the drive letter E, to get
things back into shape? My thinking was along the lines of: If I go
ahead and let it restore to this free space, would my partitions look
like they did before? And will that then still appear on the list of
options when I boot up, i.e as "Windows XP Home Edition #1"?

That delayed me a fair while. But I now know that the DI message was
at best ambiguous. IMO, it was downright misleading to a novice like
me. It should have just said it would delete the *contents* of the
partition. And ditto for the messages it displayed during the Copy
Drive approach.

Anyway, I finally bit the bullet and did the Restore Image. I had now
apparently re-copied my XP Home system partition C onto partition E
with Drive Image 2002, and E was now of course up to date rather than
nearly 2 years old. However...it no longer worked!

When I rebooted I got the familiar 3 options for a few seconds:
Windows XP Home Edition
Windows XP Home Edition #1
XP Recovery Console
But if I choose the second, instead of booting into my 'alternative'
XP as it used to do, I now get this error message:

"Windows could not start because the following file is missing or
corrupt:
<Windows root>\system32\hal.dll.
Please reinstall a copy of the above file"

Yet that file looked identical in both C and E (75.6 KB, 29th Aug
2002).

Anyway, after further research and head scratching, I vaguely
understood why the image restoring approach had failed. It was because
all the registry references after the restore would be wrong. So the
boot up wouldn't find any of the files, and hal.dll just happened to
be the first.

That confirmed that I *should have persisted* and used Copy Drive,
which is intended for this purpose. That's plainly what I used 2 years
ago. The bad sector crash incident had put me off, followed by the
misleading wording in DI about deleting the partition. (That's the
same in the Create Image and Copy Drive operations.

So I then repeated the copy drive, copying C to E. It eventually
rebooted, and I could see that the original 3 options were present,
plus one more, to 'Windows XP Home #2'. So, yes, I could now boot into
alternative versions of XP Home.

But my drive letters had now been scrambled! C had become E and E had
become C. And by default XP was booting into the 'copied' version. All
very confusing to me!
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/Mess1.gif

Deeply buried, I then found XP System Properties>Advanced>Startup &
Recovery>Settings>System Startup has a box for 'Default Operating
System'. So I could change that easily.

Trouble is, by that stage I could not get my brain around *which* one
to choose <g>.
From that drop-down box I selected this:
"Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (#2)" /fastdetect /NoExecute

They now both looked identical once I was into XP. Of course, if I
kept swapping, I'm knew I'd get into a mess. But what I wanted is what
I had: to boot up to a 'system' partition called C, on my original
(oldest) hard disk. So this would also be the 'boot partition', I
think.

This is how it looked like, after changing the boot partition in XP
Properties:
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/Mess2.gif

If I left it like that, then I'd be working from system C. That's
good, because C is the familiar label. But I'd be accessing most of my
data and many programs on Disk 2, which makes me uncomfortable. I want
most of my activity to be confined to one hard disk, disk 1, and only
access disk 2 for backup of data nightly, plus hopefully rare
emergencies when I need to boot into the alternative (increasingly
old) XP system.

But if I arrange to boot from E, then the goods and bads get reversed?
So it seemed to me I 'just' wanted to relabel C as E, and E as C - but
without screwing up the registry and hundreds of shortcuts.

Then, after one more reboot, somehow XP automagically returned the
partition names to their correct original labels!
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Misc/LookingGood.gif

It also removed that 'Boot' annotation. All I did was what I'd done a
couple of times before, namely change the default boot drop down box I
described.
 

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