Double windows

[JimL]

XP Pro SP3

While working on setting up my "new" computer I discovered several utility
type programs come up as a window within a window. I see two sets of
controls at the upper right corner - one in each window. (I've never seen
this behavior in the XP Pro SP2 on my old computer.)

One such is a third party utility called clipboard.exe that displays what's
in the clipboard.

It seems that in right-click Mycomputer > Manage, ALL the system tools come
up as window within window.

Does anyone know what's happening here and how to stop it?

 

[chas2209]

XP Pro SP3

While working on setting up my "new" computer I discovered several utility
type programs come up as a window within a window. I see two sets of
controls at the upper right corner - one in each window. (I've never seen
this behavior in the XP Pro SP2 on my old computer.)

One such is a third party utility called clipboard.exe that displays
what's in the clipboard.

It seems that in right-click Mycomputer > Manage, ALL the system tools
come up as window within window.

Does anyone know what's happening here and how to stop it?

Hi
Contact your computer manufacturer.
These programs seem to have been added by them, and are not a part
of the original XP setup

chas2209

 

[JD]

XP Pro SP3

While working on setting up my "new" computer I discovered several utility
type programs come up as a window within a window. I see two sets of
controls at the upper right corner - one in each window. (I've never seen
this behavior in the XP Pro SP2 on my old computer.)

One such is a third party utility called clipboard.exe that displays what's
in the clipboard.

It seems that in right-click Mycomputer> Manage, ALL the system tools come
up as window within window.

Does anyone know what's happening here and how to stop it?

I'm not sure what you're describing.

Ctrl-Alt-Delete to bring up Windows Task Manager, select the
Applications tab and see if you can figure out which program is doing
this. If there is no application that appears to be doing this, then
click on the Processes tab and see if there is a process doing this.

 

[JimL]

I'm not sure what you're describing.

Ctrl-Alt-Delete to bring up Windows Task Manager, select the Applications
tab and see if you can figure out which program is doing this. If there is
no application that appears to be doing this, then click on the Processes
tab and see if there is a process doing this.

I've seen things like this before - in photo shop/paint type programs. They
come up in a regular window, then when you load a picture it opens in a
window inside the first window. These usually are smaller than the original
window, but a large picture will fill the original window entirely and you
will get scroll bars.

In the situation described previously usually the outside of the second
window's frame precisely fits inside the original window's frame. The
result is a double frame all the way around and, as I said, there are two
sets of controls, one on the inside frame and one on the outside one. I
don't really know how better to put it.

I don't get what you suggest in task manager > processes. I know how to
close processes. But this occurs in several different situations. Are you
suggesting that every time I see it I just start shutting down processes and
see what happens?

 

[JimL]

Hi
Contact your computer manufacturer.
These programs seem to have been added by them, and are not a part
of the original XP setup

chas2209

I have no idea what you are saying. I said straight up that one was a third
party program and there are probably others. But getting into
administrative management via My Computer right click is a standard part of
XP Pro.

 

[JD]

I've seen things like this before - in photo shop/paint type programs. They
come up in a regular window, then when you load a picture it opens in a
window inside the first window. These usually are smaller than the original
window, but a large picture will fill the original window entirely and you
will get scroll bars.

In the situation described previously usually the outside of the second
window's frame precisely fits inside the original window's frame. The
result is a double frame all the way around and, as I said, there are two
sets of controls, one on the inside frame and one on the outside one. I
don't really know how better to put it.

I don't get what you suggest in task manager> processes. I know how to
close processes. But this occurs in several different situations. Are you
suggesting that every time I see it I just start shutting down processes and
see what happens?

Task manager > Applications and see if you can figure out what program
is doing this.

I have Photoshop and I'm still not clear as to what you're seeing but
that's not important.

 

[Olórin]

I've seen things like this before - in photo shop/paint type programs.
They come up in a regular window, then when you load a picture it opens in
a window inside the first window. These usually are smaller than the
original window, but a large picture will fill the original window
entirely and you will get scroll bars.

In the situation described previously usually the outside of the second
window's frame precisely fits inside the original window's frame. The
result is a double frame all the way around and, as I said, there are two
sets of controls, one on the inside frame and one on the outside one. I
don't really know how better to put it.

I don't get what you suggest in task manager > processes. I know how to
close processes. But this occurs in several different situations. Are
you suggesting that every time I see it I just start shutting down
processes and see what happens?

If you click the Maximise button for the "inner" window, does everything
then look how you'd like it to?

 

[JimL]

Task manager > Applications and see if you can figure out what program is
doing this.

I have Photoshop and I'm still not clear as to what you're seeing but
that's not important.

I don't have Photoshop so I don't really know if it does what I'm talking
about, but I said photo Shop/paint _type_ programs. Perhaps you've never
used others.

Let me describe _one_ window then the two.

One window has a set ot menus and/or toolbars, etc. at the top, a clear
space below and a frame around the whole thing. The frame usually consists
of a simple line along the left side, a status bar across the bottom (if you
have one set up) a scroll bar along the right side and a blue bar across the
top with a control and title at the left end and controls at the far right
end with which you can minimize the window, change the size of it or close
the window, - 3 controls in little square boxes, one containing a white X on
red. That's one window.

What I am talking about is very simple. The window of the actual program or
utility being run - with left line, bottom status bar, right scroll bar, top
blue bar and controls - is _inside the frame of the first one_.

 

[JimL]

If you click the Maximise button for the "inner" window, does everything
then look how you'd like it to?

Interesting. Some have stopped the described behavior "on their own". One
seems to have gone back to normal when maximised (the extra frame is gone).
Some remain as described (with the double frame). It is clear - that
computer is infested with demons, gremlins, bad guys, evil spirits and
little green men from outer space. Unfortunately none of my anti-virus
programs are set up for that kind of infestation. At least they don't show
anything.