Ace Fekay said:
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As I pointed out in one of my earlier posts.
Good. Then you were correct when you said that part.
Or broadcasts domains, as Intel documents call it.
No, that is what ROUTERS do as you said above (when you
were correct) and indicate you said in previous posts.
You are continuing to confuse the features and functions of
Routers and Bridges.
Bridges EXTEND the broadcast domain by uniting what
would otherwise be multiple broadcast domains.
Maybe the word "joining" (which we are both using but
doing to imprecisely) is confusing you.
Let's try it a little more explicitly and see if that helps you:
Routers router traffic between multiple broadcast domains.
Bridges move traffic and extend the broadcast domain
between different collision domains (that would be different
broadcast domains without the bridge to help -- but with
the bridge are NOW all a single broadcast domain.)
When one uses the term "bridge", it is often referred to connecting two
segments. When one uses the term "switch", it refers to a multi-port
bridge (a switch) to connect multiple segments.
Such imprecision is useless for learning or troubleshooting.
Both bridges or switches (even routers or router switches)
can move traffic between different segments*, either two, or
many. The difference is NOT "how many" segments, nor
the fact that the device assists in moving traffic, the difference
is in HOW and WHAT gets moved.
*Segment is another slippery word that tends to be used
imprecisely (by all of us for convenience) but much be
clearly defined when NOT absolutely clear by context OR
when dealing with anyone who hasn't got a clear understanding
of these distinctions -- IF we wish to be helpful and not just
confuse the issue even more.
Segments can be a physical "lengths of wire", separate from
all others not continous.
Segments can be a physical "lengths of wire", joined by
connectors but separate from all others not continous or
joined by electrical devices.
Segments can be a physical "lengths of wire", joined by a
repeater into a single COLLISION domain, but separate
from all other collision domains (one leg or side of a Bridge
perhaps.)
Segments can be a physical "lengths of wire", joined by a
possible repeaters, but isolated from all other segments by
routers which isolate the segment into a single broadcast
domain.
So:
Segments can be a physical "lengths of wire" on one side
of a switch, hub, repeater, bridge or other device where the
really interesting issue is what the device does with the
traffic on that segment or with other segments.
Herb, to end this discussion, I jsut want to say what I've learned about
bridging and switching over the past 20 years or so I've read in tech
books and various articles, such as those that I previously posted, that
point out exactly what I said.
It doesn't matter how long you took to learn it if you learned
it wrong -- arguing from ignorance will still not be helpful
to YOU or to those you wish to help.
Then either get it right or stop arguing. Continuing to argue
on your part when you have had it explained carefully and
fully to you is just foolish.
Just admit (to yourself -- you don't need to tell me) that you
have something to learn here and JUST LEARN IT.
I will help if you continue to post -- time permitting -- but
I will not do you the disservice of treating you as if you are
too dumb (or even to stubborn) to learn this.
I know you well enough to know that you are both capable of
learning this correctly (no matter how badly someone of some
book has confused you in your past experience) AND that
once you learn it you will help others to do so.
You are definitely worth the effort; you are NOT some Internet
troll who argues just so you can see your message in print and
so I must presume you wish to actually learn this if you continue
to post either questions or incorrect information.
It would be better however, if you dispensed with the mistakes
and just asked questions until you get it right.....
