Display Driver error message during solitaire games

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Guest

When playing reg. or spider solitaire, the screen goes black, then I get a
message,
"Display driver stopped responding and has recovered. Display driver
nvlddmkm". It is a new HP computer running Vista. Any suggestions?
 
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Guest

Hi JB,

My husband and I spent 29 days of HE-L getting the nvlddmkm message and
watching the games crash. Unfortunately, we installed Vista and NVidia at the
same time. After all the frustration of trying to download updates, talking
to thousands who had this problem, this is what we found and how we fixed our
computer:

1. NVidia is not compatible with Vista at this time. They are working on
drivers. The more updates Windows installed, the worse the problem got. We
changed our Windows Update settings so that we can pick and chose them,
rather than have all the new ones installed. It only further confuses the
problem.
2. In order to run games, movies, etc. with Vista you MUST have at least
1-2 gb of RAM for anything to run and not stall out on you... no black
screens.

It's worth the money to get as much RAM as you can. We were told that unless
you have the RAM, the programs constantly "borrow" from each other when
things are running. It even makes our screens look nicer. If you're running
NVidia, take it back to the store and get VisionTek X1550. It's awesome!! If
the store gives you problems, tell them you KNOW NVidia won't work with Vista.

Hope this helps,
Sarah
 
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Paul Smith

JB said:
When playing reg. or spider solitaire, the screen goes black, then I get a
message,
"Display driver stopped responding and has recovered. Display driver
nvlddmkm". It is a new HP computer running Vista. Any suggestions?

Hello JB.

This is probably caused by a bug in the nVidia graphics drivers. It is
certainly disappointing that HP choose to sell a product with such a blatant
flaw.

However I suspect the drivers on your machine are at least a couple of
months behind the latest release. So I'd recommend heading over to:

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

And downloading the latest graphics drivers, if you're not sure what model
card you have (GeForce 8 series for example) if you follow the directions on
this webpage:

http://www.windowsresource.net/vista/guides/hardware.php

There's a walkthrough on how to get up all your computers hardware details.

You're probably running Windows Vista 32-bit so select that in the final box
and download the driver. Once its downloaded try installing it and seeing
if that clears the problem up.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Guest

Sarah said:
Hi JB,

My husband and I spent 29 days of HE-L getting the nvlddmkm message and
watching the games crash. Unfortunately, we installed Vista and NVidia at
the
same time. After all the frustration of trying to download updates,
talking
to thousands who had this problem, this is what we found and how we fixed
our
computer:

1. NVidia is not compatible with Vista at this time. They are working on
drivers. The more updates Windows installed, the worse the problem got. We
changed our Windows Update settings so that we can pick and chose them,
rather than have all the new ones installed. It only further confuses the
problem.
2. In order to run games, movies, etc. with Vista you MUST have at least
1-2 gb of RAM for anything to run and not stall out on you... no black
screens.

It's worth the money to get as much RAM as you can. We were told that
unless
you have the RAM, the programs constantly "borrow" from each other when
things are running. It even makes our screens look nicer. If you're
running
NVidia, take it back to the store and get VisionTek X1550. It's awesome!!
If
the store gives you problems, tell them you KNOW NVidia won't work with
Vista.

Jeeeeeez what a total load of crap..Vista and Nvidia work
perfectly...always have, who gave you this information?
--
VRG Scotty©

www.vistareadygames.com
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answer.
 
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Andy [YaYa]

VRG Scotty© said:
Jeeeeeez what a total load of crap..Vista and Nvidia work
perfectly...always have, who gave you this information?

I DID, nVidia SUX! (Joking...)

It's not a load of crap nVidia has some issues, but usually on the SLI
front, (and most of that stuff is fixed now) but not with SOLITARE. nVidia
cards and chipsets are on a "vast" majority of PCs (I don't know exact
numbers, that's why I said "vast".) If nVidia was really having problems
we'd hear about it. Not to mention I wouldn't be typing this to you since
all my Vista boxes use nVidia cards.

Whoever told you nVidia cards don't work with Vista probably works for/gets
paid by ATi or AMD. Don't get me wrong, ATi cards are good, the x1550 is
prety cheapo, but for Solitare it should work fine.

As for the message, if you spent "months" working on this problem what
suggestions did you receive? I mean if you did the driver troubleshooting,
did you ever replace the card? Probably was simply a defective card.
Replacing the card with a new one would of resolved the problem.

Sorry you had problems, but whoever is your IT guy, fire him/her and hire
someone else. He/She's only making you look like an ass.

Also, Vista runs "ok" with 512 Ram. If you can't get Solitare to run in
Vista it's not the ram. Yes, programs borrow ram, it's called multitasking.
Yes, more ram means less waiting and less swapping from RAM to the HD. The
black screen usually occurs when Vista tries to elevate a program to admin
level. Dunno if that'll ever be fixed.

Argh, JB don't listen to Sarah, please.
 
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Paul Smith

Jeeeeeez what a total load of crap..Vista and Nvidia work
perfectly...always have, who gave you this information?

Work perfectly? Even now, 6 months after launch there is 10 pages of "known
issues" on nVidia's release notes.

A few months ago nVidia's drivers were nothing less than a disaster.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Andy [YaYa]

Paul Smith said:
Work perfectly? Even now, 6 months after launch there is 10 pages of
"known issues" on nVidia's release notes.

A few months ago nVidia's drivers were nothing less than a disaster.
Please, coming from a developer point of view, 10 pages of known issues for
something like a video driver is nothing. At least nVidia fixes their
issues. I'll give ATi props for adhearing to MS standards more closely, and
nVidia props for Linux support. Each have their strengths and weaknesses,
but even with the occasional problems, nVidia cards work. so do ATi cards.
 
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Dave Cox

Work perfectly? Even now, 6 months after launch there is 10 pages
of "known issues" on nVidia's release notes.

A few months ago nVidia's drivers were nothing less than a
disaster.


Yea I wouldn't go as far as saying Nvidia works perfectly. But I must
admit with the latest drivers I haven't had the video drivers stopped
working issue.
 
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Dave

Same here...
I sometimes get a BSOD after installing the latest Nvidia driver, but then
it works fine after that....
Quite acceptable.
 
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Guest

Paul Smith said:
Work perfectly? Even now, 6 months after launch there is 10 pages of
"known issues" on nVidia's release notes.

A few months ago nVidia's drivers were nothing less than a disaster.

Funny that cos I've had Nvidia mobos and graphics cards since they were
available with no probs...also had them all the time I've been using
Vista(since the beta release) and have had no problems driver wise at all,
and I test beta drivers as well as full release.
 
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Crazy Noddy

Sarah said:
1. NVidia is not compatible with Vista at this time. They are working on
drivers. The more updates Windows installed, the worse the problem got.

Gee, I'm using a Nvidia 7900GT with the latest Nvidia drivers that Microsoft
provide on their update site and Solitaire runs fine for me. Actually, I
have no issues with any games installed on Vista with these drivers.
 
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Crazy Noddy

Paul Smith said:
Work perfectly? Even now, 6 months after launch there is 10 pages of
"known issues" on nVidia's release notes.

A few months ago nVidia's drivers were nothing less than a disaster.

Yes, there are still some issues but what is the alternative? ATI drivers
are no better. For a gamer that is our only two choices for graphics cards.
Nvidia or ATI. And Nvidia's latest video cards are better than ATI's so most
people are using Nvidia. It's up to Microsoft to help Nvidia make sure they
get their drivers up to a stable state because it is due to the changes in
the Vista driver model as to why Nvidia are having issues. The latest XP
Nvidia drivers are near perfect so it is obvious the issue is Vista and not
so much Nvidia. Microsoft's Vista has caused big head-ache driver issues for
everyone. We should all be paid to beta test Vista and not have to pay for
it.
 
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Crazy Noddy

VRG Scotty© said:
Funny that cos I've had Nvidia mobos and graphics cards since they were
available with no probs...also had them all the time I've been using
Vista(since the beta release) and have had no problems driver wise at all,
and I test beta drivers as well as full release.

Have you tested them with a CRT? I've had the Vista Nvidia drivers send my
CRT timings out causing screen mayhem and a hard reboot. The latest ones
that Microsoft are providing work with my CRT fine though but they have no
OPenGL driver. Which is OK as I still have XP for any OpenGL games I have.
 
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Paul Smith

Yes, there are still some issues but what is the alternative? ATI drivers
are no better. For a gamer that is our only two choices for graphics
cards. Nvidia or ATI.

ATI's drivers were solid months prior to launch.
And Nvidia's latest video cards are better than ATI's so most people are
using Nvidia.

Yes their cards are better, if you're willing to spend more money, from a
price - performance standpoint they're pretty much equal.

Actually most people use ATI, I think nVidia come in 3rd after Intel.
It's up to Microsoft to help Nvidia make sure they get their drivers up to
a stable state because it is due to the changes in the Vista driver model
as to why Nvidia are having issues.

nVidia were at all the WinHECs, just like ATI.
Microsoft's Vista has caused big head-ache driver issues for everyone.

Yes because Microsoft dropped Windows Vista on everybody 3 weeks prior to
launch, and nobody had heard about it before then.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Guest

Crazy Noddy said:
Have you tested them with a CRT? I've had the Vista Nvidia drivers send my
CRT timings out causing screen mayhem and a hard reboot. The latest ones
that Microsoft are providing work with my CRT fine though but they have no
OPenGL driver. Which is OK as I still have XP for any OpenGL games I have.

Good point...no I haven't
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Guest

I have tested both ATI and Nvidia and they have both the same problem and I
have that problem that you have right now, AND the problem is the VISTA not
the Nvidia or ATI, the problem is that nvlddmkm.sys is old in the VISTA(if
your use Nvidia graficcard then it´s nvlddmkm.sys that will install when you
install VISTA and it´s from 2006 somthing)that need to replace with the new
one.... and here comes problem number two.... I have tested to delete and
even replace the old nvlddmkm.sys with the new one but it seems that even if
I´m log in as admin i dont have authority not even when i´m in safemode and
disconnected the UAC............
SO i hope that Microsoft do something that fix that problem and fast,
because you go crazy everytime it happens, i can have it every hour,
everytime i play a game or when i watch a movie....
SO VISTA = NO FUN.......
 
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DaveM

That can't possibly be true. I have documented scientific proof gathered
from around the world that vVidia or Microsoft do not have a problem with
combining their hardware and software. Just a minute I think I put that
proof somewhere........ oh here it is:

"Jeeeeeez what a total load of crap..Vista and Nvidia work
perfectly...always have, who gave you this information?
 
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Guest

DaveM said:
That can't possibly be true. I have documented scientific proof gathered
from around the world that vVidia or Microsoft do not have a problem with
combining their hardware and software. Just a minute I think I put that
proof somewhere........ oh here it is:

"Jeeeeeez what a total load of crap..Vista and Nvidia work
perfectly...always have, who gave you this information?
--
VRG Scotty©"

Now you have proof that anyone who THINKS they might have a problem - well
they were mistaken.

That coming from a troll that believes this little gem....

'If you're running NVidia, take it back to the store and get VisionTek
X1550. It's awesome!! If the store gives you problems, tell them you KNOW
NVidia won't work with Vista'

I stand by my statement because I have had no problems with both Vista and
Nvidia and neither have countless others.

Now off you pop troll the grown ups are chatting
--
VRG Scotty©

www.vistareadygames.com
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