disk cleanup & fragmentation

G

Guest

Don't know what made me run disk cleanup. Before, my disk was beautifully
unfragmented, with its 25% of space mainly in one block and hardly any
fragmented files. After cleanup the disk was in about 1000 pieces and about
50% of my files were fragmented. Defrag reduced that to only about 30-40
times what I'd started with, but after repeated attempts at defragging I
still have about 300 stripes.

Chkdsk/f found some errors but I can't see what it did about them because
the message flashes and disappears before I can read it.
 
G

Gerry

Please post a copy of the Report from Disk Defragmenter.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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A

Ace

Which you can find in Event Viewer:
Right-click 'My COmputer' on your desktop, choose 'Manage'
Log files are at the top.
 
G

Gerry

Ace

Methinks not so. You get the Report by running Analyse in Disk
Defragmenter and clicking on View Report. I am not looking for an Event
Viewer Report.

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Here's the report:

Volume New Volume (C:)
Volume size = 76.69 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 54.61 GB
Free space = 22.08 GB
Percent free space = 28 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 1 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 96,666
Average file size = 736 KB
Total fragmented files = 33
Total excess fragments = 969
Average fragments per file = 1.01

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 9,730
Fragmented folders = 3
Excess folder fragments = 3

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 122 MB
MFT record count = 108,518
Percent MFT in use = 86 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

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Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
854 603 MB \Program Files(8.12.04)\Native
Instruments\Kontakt Player Sibelius\Sibelius Library\SibeliusGoldLib.nks
35 236 KB \Documents and Settings\john\ntuser.dat.LOG
12 519 KB
\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\DataColl\CollectedData_15724.xml
10 430 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
6 182 KB
\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\DataColl\CollectedData_15726.xml
6 2 MB \Program Files\Carbonite\Carbonite
Backup\data\Carbonite.log
 
G

Gerry

It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point?

Run Disk Defragmenter and post another copy of the report.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
U

Unknown

Run defrag a second time. Don't pay too much attention to the stripes. They
are only estimates and not accurate at all.
 
G

Guest

Three more defrags, with System Restore allocation reduced from 6% to 1%,
produced a slight but noticeable reduction in the number of stripes but left
the fragmented file(s) untouched. Was not able to remove any of the System
Restore points - going to Disk Cleanup did not offer me "more options" nor
did System Restore or anything else I could find. I take the point that the
stripe diagram is not accurate but cannot help feeling that the change from
about 7 stripes to something like 1000 must have been significant.
 
G

Gerry

It could be these files are in use at the time of running Disk
Defragmenter.

Try running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
A

Ace

Oops :)
You're right. I was wrongly thinking like chkdsk logs, which do get
written to the Event logs.
 
G

Guest

Here is the latest report, following a safe mode defrag and a couple of
unsafe ones.
Nothing has changed dramatically.

Volume New Volume (C:)
Volume size = 76.69 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 51.93 GB
Free space = 24.76 GB
Percent free space = 32 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 1 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 97,133
Average file size = 670 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 853
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 9,503
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 122 MB
MFT record count = 108,401
Percent MFT in use = 86 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

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Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
854 603 MB \Program Files(8.12.04)\Native
Instruments\Kontakt Player Sibelius\Sibelius Library\SibeliusGoldLib.nks




The only thing I have to go on is the stripe pattern in the defrag display.
To the extent that this can be believed, defrag has always been successful in
(a) defragmenting files and (b) organising most of the free space into one
large, uncluttered block. This latter it has not shown much sign of doing
since I ran disk cleanup.
 
G

Gerry

It has been successful with the exception of only one
file -SibeliusGoldLib.nks. This is a large file which is in many
fragments. I do not know why this is so as with 32% free space I would
have expected it to at least relocate in fewer and larger fragments.

Remaining suggestions. Copy to new location (directory) and delete
original. Copy file back to original location and delete file in
temporary location. Run Disk Defragment and observe for affect. If that
does work try Contig on the file:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/contig.mspx

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bob I

Copy the file out to say, a thumb drive, delete the one on the hard
drive, and then copy it back.
 

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