Diagnosing blue screen of death

G

glee

~BD~ said:
Is it safe to simply click on the links where indicated on that
destination page?

Indeed, is it safe to click on the link *you* have posted here in
*this* thread?
snip

Oh geez, trolling AGAIN?!
 
L

Lou Knee

~BD~ said:
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:35:22 -0500 *0235* !!!!!!!! ----------------------------------^^^^^

*

Just wondering when you guru's sleep! :)

You've forgotten how to read TIMESTAMPs....

...and use apostrophes.
 
F

FromTheRafters

On 10/02/2011 21:12, FromTheRafters wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:22:52 +0000

On 10/02/2011 12:44, Peter Foldes wrote:
Julie

See the following link


http://aumha.org/a/stop.php#0xc2


Is it safe to simply click on the links where indicated on that
destination page?

Whether or not a link is safe, depends entirely on your system.

[...]

Please would you expand on that statement, FTR?

W h e t h e r o r n o t a l i n k i s s a f e , d e p e n d
s e n t i r e l y o n y o u r s y s t e m .

Y a w n! :)
...but I don't see how that helps.


Maybe he was answering a different question, like 'Do you trust them?'
or 'Are they trustworthy?'.

Maybe, maybe not. Do *you* believe that Aumha is a *trustworthy* place?
Yes.
Nobody, it's a jungle out there.

I agree 100% :)
Okay, what could possibly be "unsafe" about a link?

You are *so....oo* pedantic!

Your word (safe), I just want to be clear. You are more likely to
consider a URL with a name (http://something.com) to be safer than one
with a number (http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) even though it is only the name
one that can mislead (it requires a 'lookup' which may have been
poisoned).
The heart of the problem! Malware today can (and does) compromise a
machine without the 'average' user being aware of the fact.

....and yesterday too, it's not a new development.
There are tens of thousands of guys who have problems with their
computers (most having a "simpleton level of understanding"!) who used
to flock to the more than two thousand Microsoft Communities groups for
help and advice. Not a 'protected' environment as I once thought, but
open to Usenet abuse by anyone with sufficient knowledge and skill.

Tell me why you think 'glee' still sports a link in his signature taking
folk to such outdated information, here:
http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/default.htm

Maybe you should spend a while exploring all the information provided
there! I found it very interesting some years ago - nothing has changed
AFAICT - asfarasIcantell.

Offline at the moment, but I may check that out later.

[...]
Please try and keep an open mind. There really *are* bad guys out in
that jungle - hiding you know not where! ;-)

I do keep an open mind, else I would have taken PABear's advice long
ago instead of coming here to get away from his warnings about you.
That doesn't mean that I will join you in your obsession.
 
G

glee

~BD~ said:
snip
There are tens of thousands of guys who have problems with their
computers (most having a "simpleton level of understanding"!) who used
to flock to the more than two thousand Microsoft Communities groups
for help and advice. Not a 'protected' environment as I once thought,
but open to Usenet abuse by anyone with sufficient knowledge and
skill.


If you are referring to the Microsoft newsgroups, they were like all
newsgroups, part of Usenet, and subject to the same "abuse" as any group
on Usenet. Microsoft no longer has any newsgroups....the group you are
posting in now is no longer connected to Microsoft in any way....as you
should now.
If by Microsoft Communities you mean their current web forums, which are
the only "communities" they use now, they are not part of Usenet, and
your comment is not relevant.

Tell me why you think 'glee' still sports a link in his signature
taking folk to such outdated information, here:
http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/default.htm

Maybe you should spend a while exploring all the information provided
there! I found it very interesting some years ago - nothing has
changed AFAICT - asfarasIcantell.

It might be better if he, like Peter Foldes, directed folk to .......
http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.aspx


It's my signature and the link is about a group I belong to, which is
why it's in my signature. In the old thread you link below, I explained
the link....yet you just go on and on, trolling about the same things
now. Exactly what is your problem? Why would I remove my link about a
long-standing group of community helpers to which I belong ...that I put
in my signature because I am proud to be a member of that group... and
change it to a link on the Microsoft site advertising THEIR security
products and links to their software? My signature is about my
affiliations, not about what YOU think it should be.

Perhaps he'll now chip in himself and explain why he does not do so.

I already put up with your trolling for days in more than one thread,
including thew one you linked below, where you continually pestered me
in an attempt to get me to intervene with and question my associates at
Jim Eshelman's forums over your having been banned at those forums some
time ago..... just as you have been banned at other computer help
forums, because of your trolling and other behavior.
 
T

Tester

glee said:
So, you think being stupid and crude enhances your credibility?
You and Tester keep making these absolute statements that you cannot
back up, so you both just hurl insults.

One doesn't need backups to know that outdated drivers have been in use
all the time. One does need some common sense which you lack very
desperately.

Incidentally, selling your daughter to finance your drug habits is not
going to make any credible among the people in the know. Pimps and
prostitutes may make you their leader but not here so go and suck some eggs!
 
F

FromTheRafters

Thank you.

Are you a 'member' at AumHa? If so, what is your username, please.

No, I've never even visited as far as I can remember.
If not, on what basis have you formed your judgment?

Online interactions with several of the MVPs that you have stated are
members there. I don't particularly *like* some of them, but I don't
let my personal feelings interfere with my ability to trust.
It has been suggested to me in the past that using a link with a number
(http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) is to be avoided. You seem to be suggesting
that that is *not* the case.

Funny, that.

The thing is, with a number, the browser will cause your computer to
communicate with the computer at that numerical address. With a name,
you depend upon the DNS system (or some other lookup such as the
"hosts" file) to give you a number. So, you tell me - which is more
straightforward? :blush:)
I'd venture to suggest that *much* has changed in the last 5/6 years.

Yes, but malware hiding from average users is as old as the hills.

It is the reason for antivirus scanners - the average user hasn't got a
hope in finding a real virus without one. Even most above average users
wouldn't be able to.

Malware has become more commercially motivated, and "viruses" have
become less prevalent as a means of compromise.
 
M

MyNews

Tester
He that trust in his own heart is a fool:
but whoso walk wisely,
he shall be delivered.
 
M

MyNews

Bullwinkle said:
Why do you give bd rim jobs?
Ok you can have the perverted jobs Bullwinkle

And BD your Fire!

Bullwinkle be sweet and hide your words under his tongue;
And do not Conning nor Evil, But be good in your ways!
 
F

FromTheRafters

On 11/02/2011 12:58, FromTheRafters wrote:
.]
Aardvark is quite adamant that the links *are* safe.

Maybe he was answering a different question, like 'Do you trust them?'
or 'Are they trustworthy?'.

Maybe, maybe not. Do *you* believe that Aumha is a *trustworthy* place?

Yes.

Thank you.

Are you a 'member' at AumHa? If so, what is your username, please.

No, I've never even visited as far as I can remember.

Thank you. If you had a 'test' machine available (and had the
inclination!) do you have the expertise to judge whether or not such
machine had been properly 'cleaned' if you followed procedures issued by
the gurus here: http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30

I'm not going there, but as long as there are no *infections* I am sure
that I could.
Funny, that.

The thing is, with a number, the browser will cause your computer to
communicate with the computer at that numerical address. With a name,
you depend upon the DNS system (or some other lookup such as the
"hosts" file) to give you a number. So, you tell me - which is more
straightforward? :blush:)
[...]

So, in a way 'numbers' *must* be best - but one has absolutely no idea
where one may end up - like clicking on a basic TinyURL!

Yes, but they don't lie. They don't make you think that you know where
you're going, and instead send you to a spoof site via 'hosts' or
another poisoned lookup.

[...]
 
F

FromTheRafters

On 13/02/2011 15:26, FromTheRafters wrote:
[...]
I'm not going there, but as long as there are no *infections* I am sure
that I could.

I didn't think you *would* go there!

How can I know what procedure that they recommend if I don't go there
to read it and you don't mention particulars?
One might *not* have an infection when one *went* there - but have one
when one left! ;-)

What I meant by that was infection as a startup method for a malware
infestation. I can't tell, just by looking, if a program is internally
infected.

[...]
How does one know which 'numbers' are assigned to specific places? How
did Aardvark know that www.google.com was 74.125.230.114 for example?

He probably 'ping'ed them.
I've had a play with the facility here http://www.mxtoolbox.com/ which
was given to me by G. Morgan. I don't seem to get the right results when
inserting Annex.com, Annexcafe.com, Aumha.org or Aumha.net as the Domain
name ...... and then plugging the numbers into an address bar.

Maybe they're dynamic addresses?
 

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