Desktop Icons Keep Rearranging


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David E. Ross

I have my desktop icons arranged in a particular way. Every time I
reboot and sometimes during a session, the icons are rearranged, making
it difficult for me to find the ones I want.

I have the following settings under Arrange Icons By:
Align to Grid
Show Desktop Icons
Lock Web Icons on Desktop

I have Icon Restore (LAYOUT.DLL) installed. I must use it far more
often than is reasonable.

How do I get WinXP to leave my icons where I want them?

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Guest

Do you have the auto arrange checked? Uncheck it if you do. Perhaps this is
obviously not the problem, but could be.
 
W

Wesley Vogel

If Lock Web Items on Desktop is checked...
Items can be moved, but they are moved back after reboot.

If Auto Arrange is checked...
The icons are arranged in columns along the left side of your screen.

Right click Desktop | Arrange Icons By |
UNCheck: Auto Arrange
UNCheck: Lock Web Items on Desktop

Auto Arrange
[[Arrange the icons in columns along the left side of your screen.]]

Lock Web Items on Desktop
[[Specifies whether Web content windows or items that *you* have placed on
your desktop are locked in place and can’t be moved. Select the check box to
lock Web content in place. Clear the check box if you want to be able to
move Web content.]]

Also...

This problem may also occur if you turn on the Lock Web Items on Desktop
feature...

Desktop icons and icon labels may not display background transparency or the
drop shadow effect in Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305117

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R

Rock

David said:
I have my desktop icons arranged in a particular way. Every time I
reboot and sometimes during a session, the icons are rearranged, making
it difficult for me to find the ones I want.

I have the following settings under Arrange Icons By:
Align to Grid
Show Desktop Icons
Lock Web Icons on Desktop

I have Icon Restore (LAYOUT.DLL) installed. I must use it far more
often than is reasonable.

How do I get WinXP to leave my icons where I want them?

One option is to use a little program from Kelly's site. This will add
two right click context menu entries that show up when you right click a
blank area of the desktop. The entries are "Save Desktop Icon Layout"
and "Restore Desktop Icon Layout". Once installed set up the icons as
you want, right click a blank area and choose the Save option. Then
restore as needed.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 188: Add Save & Restore Desktop Layout to Menu
 
D

David E. Ross

Rock said:
One option is to use a little program from Kelly's site. This will add
two right click context menu entries that show up when you right click a
blank area of the desktop. The entries are "Save Desktop Icon Layout"
and "Restore Desktop Icon Layout". Once installed set up the icons as
you want, right click a blank area and choose the Save option. Then
restore as needed.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 188: Add Save & Restore Desktop Layout to Menu

That merely installs LAYOUT.dll, which I have already done. It's just
that I seem to be using it far more often than is reasonable.

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Wesley Vogel

If you do not have AutoArrange and/or Lock Web Icons on Desktop checked
under Arrange Icons By...

I don't beleive that NoSaveSettings pertains to Desktop icon placement, but
it's worth a shot to see if you NoSaveSettings value and it is set to 1.

Open the Registry Editor...
Start | Run | Type: regedit | Click OK |

Look for NoSaveSettings in both of these keys...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer

If NoSaveSettings does not exist, it is the same as if it were set 0, the
policy is disabled or not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.

If NoSaveSettings is set 1, the policy is enabled. Some changes to the
desktop are not saved.

NoSaveSettings Description
[[Prevents users from saving certain changes to the desktop. Users can
change the desktop, but some changes, such as the positions of open windows
or the size and position of the taskbar, are not saved when users log off.
Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.]]

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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D

David E. Ross

Wesley said:
If you do not have AutoArrange and/or Lock Web Icons on Desktop checked
under Arrange Icons By...

I don't beleive that NoSaveSettings pertains to Desktop icon placement, but
it's worth a shot to see if you NoSaveSettings value and it is set to 1.

Open the Registry Editor...
Start | Run | Type: regedit | Click OK |

Look for NoSaveSettings in both of these keys...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer

If NoSaveSettings does not exist, it is the same as if it were set 0, the
policy is disabled or not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.

If NoSaveSettings is set 1, the policy is enabled. Some changes to the
desktop are not saved.

NoSaveSettings Description
[[Prevents users from saving certain changes to the desktop. Users can
change the desktop, but some changes, such as the positions of open windows
or the size and position of the taskbar, are not saved when users log off.
Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.]]

I set my registry as you indicated. For the path in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE,
I had to create a new key for
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer.

Upon rebooting, I find that this did not help. My icons are not where I
left them.

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

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W

Wesley Vogel

I had to create a new key for
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer.

No you did not have to. If NoSaveSettings does not exist, it is the same as
if it were set 0, the
policy is disabled or not configured.
Upon rebooting, I find that this did not help. My icons are not where I
left them.

Something is upgefuchted. Beats me as to what it is though. Maybe
something goofy with the Layout.dll you downloaded.

I found one post where a poster had your problem. They had a corrupted
video driver. They did not explain anything more except to say that they
fixed the problem with a new driver.

See if there are any Device Conflicts.

Open Device Manager...
Start | Run | Type: devmgmt.msc | Click OK |
Look for any of these.

<quote>
A black exclamation point (!) on a yellow field indicates the device is in
a problem state. Note that a device that is in a problem state can be
functioning.

A problem code explaining the problem is displayed for the device.

A red "X" indicates a disabled device. A disabled device is a device that is
physically present in the computer and is consuming resources, but does not
have a protected-mode driver loaded.

A blue "i" on a white field on a device resource in Computer properties
indicates that the Use Automatic Settings feature is not selected for the
device and that the resource was manually selected. Note that this does not
indicate a problem or disabled state.

A green question mark "?" in Device Manager means that a compatible driver
for this device is installed, indicating the possibility that all of the
functionality may not be available.
<quote>
From...
Troubleshooting Device Conflicts with Device Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310126

You aren't changing screen resolutions are you?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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David E. Ross said:
Wesley said:
If you do not have AutoArrange and/or Lock Web Icons on Desktop checked
under Arrange Icons By...

I don't beleive that NoSaveSettings pertains to Desktop icon placement,
but it's worth a shot to see if you NoSaveSettings value and it is set
to 1.

Open the Registry Editor...
Start | Run | Type: regedit | Click OK |

Look for NoSaveSettings in both of these keys...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer

If NoSaveSettings does not exist, it is the same as if it were set 0, the
policy is disabled or not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.

If NoSaveSettings is set 1, the policy is enabled. Some changes to the
desktop are not saved.

NoSaveSettings Description
[[Prevents users from saving certain changes to the desktop. Users can
change the desktop, but some changes, such as the positions of open
windows or the size and position of the taskbar, are not saved when
users log off. Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.]]

I set my registry as you indicated. For the path in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE,
I had to create a new key for
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer.

Upon rebooting, I find that this did not help. My icons are not where I
left them.

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Concerned about someone (e.g., Pres. Bush) snooping
into your E-mail? Use PGP.
See my <http://www.rossde.com/PGP/>
 
D

David E. Ross

Wesley said:
No you did not have to. If NoSaveSettings does not exist, it is the same as
if it were set 0, the
policy is disabled or not configured.


Something is upgefuchted. Beats me as to what it is though. Maybe
something goofy with the Layout.dll you downloaded.

It has the same hashcode (MD5) as the Layout.dll currently available
from Kelly's Korner.

I found one post where a poster had your problem. They had a corrupted
video driver. They did not explain anything more except to say that they
fixed the problem with a new driver.

I hope it's not the driver. My whole setup is only a month old.

See if there are any Device Conflicts.

Open Device Manager...
Start | Run | Type: devmgmt.msc | Click OK |
Look for any of these.

<quote>
A black exclamation point (!) on a yellow field indicates the device is in
a problem state. Note that a device that is in a problem state can be
functioning.

A problem code explaining the problem is displayed for the device.

A red "X" indicates a disabled device. A disabled device is a device that is
physically present in the computer and is consuming resources, but does not
have a protected-mode driver loaded.

A blue "i" on a white field on a device resource in Computer properties
indicates that the Use Automatic Settings feature is not selected for the
device and that the resource was manually selected. Note that this does not
indicate a problem or disabled state.

A green question mark "?" in Device Manager means that a compatible driver
for this device is installed, indicating the possibility that all of the
functionality may not be available.
<quote>
From...
Troubleshooting Device Conflicts with Device Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310126

Everything is clear.
You aren't changing screen resolutions are you?

NO.

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Wesley Vogel

If you do not have the latest video drivers from the manufacturer's web
site, then it beats me.

If you do decide to see if you can get newer video drivers, get them from
the manufacturer's web site NOT from Windows Updates or any other Microsoft
source.

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cuba

David E. Ross wrote:
[snip]
I have Icon Restore (LAYOUT.DLL) installed. I must use it far more
often than is reasonable.

How do I get WinXP to leave my icons where I want them?

How about getting rid of Icon Restore? Looks like they supply an
uninstall EXE.

Never trust strange programs with Windows.
 
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David E. Ross

cuba said:
David E. Ross wrote:
[snip]
I have Icon Restore (LAYOUT.DLL) installed. I must use it far more
often than is reasonable.

How do I get WinXP to leave my icons where I want them?

How about getting rid of Icon Restore? Looks like they supply an
uninstall EXE.

Never trust strange programs with Windows.

I used Icon Restore for a number of years with Win98SE. It contained no
viruses or spyware, and it performed the task that I wanted. That task
was to restore my desktop arrangement after operating in Safe mode.

Initially, I did not install Icon Restore on my new PC with WinXP. I
was neither thought I would need it nor sure it would work. The problem
I'm having, however, indicated the need; so I tried it with WinXP. It
does work.

The problem is that I have to use it far more often with WinXP than I
ever used it with Win98SE. I now must use it each time I boot, even if
I haven't been in Safe mode. Occasionally, I have to use it in the
middle of a session, even if I haven't booted. Effectively, WinXP is a
step backwards from Win98SE in terms of desktop stability.

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David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

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into your E-mail? Use PGP.
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