deleting Content.IE5 files

S

shAf

I was trying to cleanup my wife's harddrive (Win98SE) this past weekend. I
want to assume I can simply delete any file in any directory, which (or its
mother directory) has been designated as temporary (e.g., c:\temp,
windows\temp, C:\Documents and Settings\rarewolf\Local Settings\Temp,
Temporary Internet Files, Content.IE5 ... the latter being on my own Win2000
computers). These directories can contain gigabytes of "temporary"
files!!!

However, I get strange results if I try to list files in the "Content.IE5"
directories ... not all files can be seen, or the system may respond with
warnings if I try to delete directories. I am therfore wary of procedures
for cleaning up these directories, and "disk cleanup" does not take care of
these directories either.

Is there a wwwpage which explains how to clean these directories up???

tia :blush:)
 
G

Guest

The Content.IE5 folder is a very different folder, one of great dispute. Basically to accomplish what you want with the lease amount of fuss, use the Delete Temporary Files option from within Internet Explorers Options. Open Internet Explorer, click on Tools/Internet Options. On the very first tab you'll see the button to Delete Temporary Files. You can also delete Cookies if you so choose. Hope this helps.
 
H

H. Debs

Hi shAf,
I have a little 500MB partition which I called CACHES down at the very
end of the disk. I've set up I.E. for all user accounts on the pc to
use that partition for the Temporary Internet Files (Tools|Internet
Options|Settings(button)|Move Folder). That way the main partition
doesn't get cluttered and fragmented due to all those little files.
When the caches grow to consume the whole 500MB space, I.E. deletes
them automatically, so I get to control the max size of cache for all
users as well.
I have also on occasion deleted all the contents of the
CACHES/Temporary Internet Files folder manually, without any
noticeable side effect. I.E. just recreates its index file and
subfolders.

HTH
 
B

Brian A.

Although emptying the TIF can be done in the manner you are attempting, it can
and has been known to create problems. The Proper way to clear out the TIF is
Right click IE on the Desktop, click Properties, under the General tab click
Delete Files, put a check in "Delete all offline content", click Ok. Same deal
for cookies minus the "del......." window.
 
J

Josef Stalin

Brian A. said:
Although emptying the TIF can be done in the manner you are attempting, it can
and has been known to create problems. The Proper way to clear out the TIF is
Right click IE on the Desktop, click Properties, under the General tab click
Delete Files, put a check in "Delete all offline content", click Ok. Same deal
for cookies minus the "del......." window.

--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none. One can never truly be a master as there is
always more to learn.

Nonsense Comrade Brian,

Name one instance of a problem attributable to problems to deleting the TIF?

I do it on my home computer everytime I boot up and I do all the time at
work whenever I go to a user's workstation. I delete all the TIF's
(sometimes dozens) with impunity. When the OS starts up, the OS builds a
new TIF directory structure.

Brian, name one, just one instance where zapping an entire TIF has caused a
problem?

Uncle Josef, Man of Steel

p.s. Set your TIF cache to a realistic number: 5 or 10MB, never more.
 
L

LuckyStrike

Another way, although Brian A has provided you with the *safest* and *best
way* which works for all but the most stubborn cases, is to do a "Deltree".
True, Giga Bytes of files may be a problem to delete by the conventional
method, but still, you'd better try that first.

In answer to a part of your question, see here:

http://forums.techguy.org/t200066/s57faf9d4279ea345b07cc1cccc080784.html
http://www.computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/104366.html

Also You don't need a Boot-Disk for W98 to perform this operation. I am not
necessarily recommending you to perform this Deltree process, but am merely
offering you a few pages whose purpose is to "enlighten" you on this
subject.
The reason that Index.dat is the focus, is due to the fact that if one
enters the Content IE5 folder and at random starts deleting its contents,
you can end up with a corrupt Index.dat. Then you will have plenty of
problems. This method of Deltree will clear the contents of that which you
direct it to do quickly, easily, *And* IRRETRIEVABLY. One mistake and
.....goodbye. Therefore, you have been advised.

Incidentally, Content IE5 is a "quasi hidden folder"; although not really
hidden, it is located in a purposefully obscure way. This is designed as
such to offer a degree of much needed protection, and precisely (but not
only) for the reasons I just cited. Another thing is that *anything*
accessed on the Web at any time is placed in the sub-folders of Content IE5;
therefore lets say for instance that you were warned by your AV of a
possible Virus, or Trojan .JS exploit or something of a like nature, well
now you are exposing yourself once again to this hazard. Hence the warning
message that Windows displays regarding the "opening or running of such and
such may be unsafe. do you wish to continue?" There are other reasons as
well, but that alone should suffice.

Be careful, and be content to just read and learn for now. Follow Brian A's
suggestion; it is for the better.
 
P

PCR

Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here is
the way...

"Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all
offline content, OK, OK"

That does a credible job, in IE6 anyway. Content.IE5 will retain
it's size, but is cleared or reset to emptiness. You still will see
Cookies in the main TIF folder, but all the weirdly named folders in
Content.IE5 will be gone.

These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an
involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold
bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit.
Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's
size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings
button.

If that fails to get them all, then...

Some Cookies bleed into TIFs, so... "START, Settings, Control Panel,
Internet Options, Delete Cookies button". (Note, some site specific
passwords/settings will be wiped.)

If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured with a
DOS delete...

Verify, in Windows, where these folders are located before proceeding.

(a) "START, Find, F/F".
(b) Enter "Cookies, Tempor~1, History" (no quotes) in "Named".
(c) Click the "Advanced" button, & use the dropdown to select
"Folder".
(d) Then click the "Find Now" button.
If it is not in "C:\Windows", adjust the Deltree's below. If you
have more than one of any, then perhaps stop & report back.
(c) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Settings button"
Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located? Use that
path below, but substitute "Tempor~1" for "Temporary Internet Files".

(1) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"

(2) SMARTDRV
This speeds up hard drive processing considerably in DOS--
considerably, & yet it may still seem slow if TIFs are incredibly huge!

(3) DELTREE C:\Windows\Cookies\ /y
These are your Cookies. They may hold settings & passwords, site
specific.

(4) DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
These are your Temporary Internet Files. A DOS delete does reset
Content.IE5 to 32 KB. It won't stay that small for long. However,
Cookies in the top TIF folder would survive this Deltree.

(5) DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
This is a collection of the sites you have visited. It will begin
to grow again, depending upon "Days to keep..." at "Internet Options,
General tab".

(6) EXIT or Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows

WARNING: DELTREE is a powerful command. It will wipe out the folder you
specify. DO NOT HIT ENTER too soon, or you will wipe out your system.
Get all the way to the end of those DELTREE lines.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| I was trying to cleanup my wife's harddrive (Win98SE) this past
weekend. I
| want to assume I can simply delete any file in any directory, which
(or its
| mother directory) has been designated as temporary (e.g., c:\temp,
| windows\temp, C:\Documents and Settings\rarewolf\Local Settings\Temp,
| Temporary Internet Files, Content.IE5 ... the latter being on my own
Win2000
| computers). These directories can contain gigabytes of "temporary"
| files!!!
|
| However, I get strange results if I try to list files in the
"Content.IE5"
| directories ... not all files can be seen, or the system may respond
with
| warnings if I try to delete directories. I am therfore wary of
procedures
| for cleaning up these directories, and "disk cleanup" does not take
care of
| these directories either.
|
| Is there a wwwpage which explains how to clean these directories up???
|
| tia :blush:)
|
|
 
J

Josef Stalin

[snip]
Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here is
the way...
[snip]

If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured with a
DOS delete...

Twice you claim corruption. Are you referring to the corruption of the
soul? Can you cite you example where deleting a TIF or a portion thereof
has had a deleterious effect upon the system?

Joey.
 
K

kumar

Hi.
I haven't seen any corruption by deleting the Content.IE5 folder... I keep
deleting the Content.IE5 directory itself. Windows recreates the folder when
restarting next time. I have created a small batch file & a registry file
for the purpose.
DISCLAIMER: Use this method at your own risk. I am not responsible should
any loss/damage/consequences arising out of use/misuse of this method. As
'Deltree' is a very powerful command, do use it with discretion.
Follow the steps below:
1. Open notepad in Windows (or edit at DOS prompt).
2. Add the following lines:
@deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\*.* >nul
@deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\Tempor~1\*.* >nul
@deltree /y c:\windows\history\*.* >nul
@deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\*.* >nul
@deltree /y c:\windows\cookies\*.* >nul
@deltree /y c:\windows\userdata\*.* >nul
@exit
3. Save the file as a batch file (extension ".bat"). (Any name you want).
4. Boot to the DOS command prompt (from Windows: Start -->
Shutdown -->Restart in DOS mode; or go to boot menu while system boots up -
press F8 key as soon as you see a message "Loading Windows...").
5. Run the saved batch file in step 3.

I am attaching couple of files. One is a batch file "delCookies.bat" &
another "cookie.reg".
~ Copy both of them to the root directory (I am assuming the root to be
"C:\" - In case if it is different, replace C:\ with the proper drive where
Windows 98 is installed).
~ Merge the ".reg" file in Windows 98 (right click on the file --> Merge)
Now when the system restarts, just before Windows loads the UI, the
temporary files for IE are cleared/deleted.

Another small variation in this file: The above steps assume the TIF is
located either in the root drive (C:\) or in the Windows folder
(C:\Windows). If you have user profiles enabled, you may not be able to
clear the T(emporary) I(nternet) F(iles) files.
If user profiles are enabled in Windows 98, the Content.IE5 folder is
created under "%systemroot%:\Windows\Profiles\profile1" where %systemroot%
is the root drive & profile1 is the name of your profile. You have to add
this to the above file.
Example: @deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\profiles\tempor~1\*.* >nul

PRECAUTION: Be very careful. Take necessary steps to back up your data files
& other important data. Again, Disclaimer: You are using this method at your
own risk. I am not liable for any
direct/indirect/consequential/inconsequential/other loss of data/time/other
by the proper/improper usage of this method/s.

Any doubts, feel free to ask!

Phew! That was a lot to key in!!!
Cheers,
Kumar...
 
B

Bill in Co.

But WHY would you want to delete the TIF after each reboot? Kinda defeats
the purpose of it, doesn't it?
 
P

PCR

That is a SINGLE claim of corruption, although it is written twice. I am
afraid I am forbid to mention the name of the MVP who often has written
about it. But MVP P.A. Bear will surely vouch for me! Those TIF's are
"bits & pieces" of WEB sites. I think it makes sense that a corruption
may occur, if you don't delete every piece. Also, the construct of
Index.dat is convoluted. In Explorer, it looks like Index.dat is inside
TIF's, but really it is the other way around. The files you see listed
are in the .dat! Anyway, why have a couple of apps been written to cure
it, if it cannot occur.

Also, see what you can discover...
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers3.htm#Cache
http://users.pandora.be/solvenet/tipsie.htm


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
|
|
| |
| [snip]
|
| > Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here
is
| > the way...
| >
| [snip]
|
| > If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
| > possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured
with a
| > DOS delete...
| >
|
| Twice you claim corruption. Are you referring to the corruption of
the
| soul? Can you cite you example where deleting a TIF or a portion
thereof
| has had a deleterious effect upon the system?
|
| Joey.
|
| --
| Take the "NiceGuy" out of (e-mail address removed) to
respond
|
|
 
P

PCR

There was a day & an age I might have attempted something like this. And
that day may come again, because it is good to take command of things &
show the computer who is boss, who is smarter, even. Yet...

(a) Careful deleting "C:\Windows\Temp". That one may hold something that
needs to run to "complete" an install. In that case, you must fully
reboot to Windows, to give it that chance. Likely, you would have
received a message about it. I can think some case can arise where the
message is not issued, though. Therefore, look in there to see, after
you have done an install. Furthermore, NetZero actually does stealth
installs, though I haven't caught it using TEMP-- yet!

(b) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Advanced button, Security section,
check Empty Temporary Internet Files folder..." should do what you want
with them.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Hi.
| I haven't seen any corruption by deleting the Content.IE5 folder... I
keep
| deleting the Content.IE5 directory itself. Windows recreates the
folder when
| restarting next time. I have created a small batch file & a registry
file
| for the purpose.
| DISCLAIMER: Use this method at your own risk. I am not responsible
should
| any loss/damage/consequences arising out of use/misuse of this method.
As
| 'Deltree' is a very powerful command, do use it with discretion.
| Follow the steps below:
| 1. Open notepad in Windows (or edit at DOS prompt).
| 2. Add the following lines:
| @deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\*.* >nul
| @deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\Tempor~1\*.* >nul
| @deltree /y c:\windows\history\*.* >nul
| @deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\*.* >nul
| @deltree /y c:\windows\cookies\*.* >nul
| @deltree /y c:\windows\userdata\*.* >nul
| @exit
| 3. Save the file as a batch file (extension ".bat"). (Any name you
want).
| 4. Boot to the DOS command prompt (from Windows: Start -->
| Shutdown -->Restart in DOS mode; or go to boot menu while system boots
up -
| press F8 key as soon as you see a message "Loading Windows...").
| 5. Run the saved batch file in step 3.
|
| I am attaching couple of files. One is a batch file "delCookies.bat" &
| another "cookie.reg".
| ~ Copy both of them to the root directory (I am assuming the root to
be
| "C:\" - In case if it is different, replace C:\ with the proper drive
where
| Windows 98 is installed).
| ~ Merge the ".reg" file in Windows 98 (right click on the file -->
Merge)
| Now when the system restarts, just before Windows loads the UI, the
| temporary files for IE are cleared/deleted.
|
| Another small variation in this file: The above steps assume the TIF
is
| located either in the root drive (C:\) or in the Windows folder
| (C:\Windows). If you have user profiles enabled, you may not be able
to
| clear the T(emporary) I(nternet) F(iles) files.
| If user profiles are enabled in Windows 98, the Content.IE5 folder is
| created under "%systemroot%:\Windows\Profiles\profile1" where
%systemroot%
| is the root drive & profile1 is the name of your profile. You have to
add
| this to the above file.
| Example: @deltree /y C:\WINDOWS\profiles\tempor~1\*.* >nul
|
| PRECAUTION: Be very careful. Take necessary steps to back up your data
files
| & other important data. Again, Disclaimer: You are using this method
at your
| own risk. I am not liable for any
| direct/indirect/consequential/inconsequential/other loss of
data/time/other
| by the proper/improper usage of this method/s.
|
| Any doubts, feel free to ask!
|
| Phew! That was a lot to key in!!!
| Cheers,
| Kumar...
|
|
| | > Do not delete TIFs individually, as you may cause corruption. Here
is
| > the way...
| >
| > "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete
all
| > offline content, OK, OK"
| >
| > That does a credible job, in IE6 anyway. Content.IE5 will retain
| > it's size, but is cleared or reset to emptiness. You still will see
| > Cookies in the main TIF folder, but all the weirdly named folders in
| > Content.IE5 will be gone.
| >
| > These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has
an
| > involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold
| > bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next
visit.
| > Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back.
It's
| > size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings
| > button.
| >
| > If that fails to get them all, then...
| >
| > Some Cookies bleed into TIFs, so... "START, Settings, Control Panel,
| > Internet Options, Delete Cookies button". (Note, some site specific
| > passwords/settings will be wiped.)
| >
| > If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is
| > possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured
with a
| > DOS delete...
| >
| > Verify, in Windows, where these folders are located before
proceeding.
| >
| > (a) "START, Find, F/F".
| > (b) Enter "Cookies, Tempor~1, History" (no quotes) in "Named".
| > (c) Click the "Advanced" button, & use the dropdown to select
| > "Folder".
| > (d) Then click the "Find Now" button.
| > If it is not in "C:\Windows", adjust the Deltree's below. If
you
| > have more than one of any, then perhaps stop & report back.
| > (c) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Settings button"
| > Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located? Use
that
| > path below, but substitute "Tempor~1" for "Temporary Internet
Files".
| >
| > (1) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"
| >
| > (2) SMARTDRV
| > This speeds up hard drive processing considerably in DOS--
| > considerably, & yet it may still seem slow if TIFs are incredibly
huge!
| >
| > (3) DELTREE C:\Windows\Cookies\ /y
| > These are your Cookies. They may hold settings & passwords,
site
| > specific.
| >
| > (4) DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
| > These are your Temporary Internet Files. A DOS delete does
reset
| > Content.IE5 to 32 KB. It won't stay that small for long. However,
| > Cookies in the top TIF folder would survive this Deltree.
| >
| > (5) DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
| > This is a collection of the sites you have visited. It will
begin
| > to grow again, depending upon "Days to keep..." at "Internet
Options,
| > General tab".
| >
| > (6) EXIT or Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows
| >
| > WARNING: DELTREE is a powerful command. It will wipe out the folder
you
| > specify. DO NOT HIT ENTER too soon, or you will wipe out your
system.
| > Get all the way to the end of those DELTREE lines.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > | > | I was trying to cleanup my wife's harddrive (Win98SE) this past
| > weekend. I
| > | want to assume I can simply delete any file in any directory,
which
| > (or its
| > | mother directory) has been designated as temporary (e.g., c:\temp,
| > | windows\temp, C:\Documents and Settings\rarewolf\Local
Settings\Temp,
| > | Temporary Internet Files, Content.IE5 ... the latter being on my
own
| > Win2000
| > | computers). These directories can contain gigabytes of
"temporary"
| > | files!!!
| > |
| > | However, I get strange results if I try to list files in the
| > "Content.IE5"
| > | directories ... not all files can be seen, or the system may
respond
| > with
| > | warnings if I try to delete directories. I am therfore wary of
| > procedures
| > | for cleaning up these directories, and "disk cleanup" does not
take
| > care of
| > | these directories either.
| > |
| > | Is there a wwwpage which explains how to clean these directories
up???
| > |
| > | tia :blush:)
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|
 
G

Gary Smith

In microsoft.public.win2000.general kumar said:
I haven't seen any corruption by deleting the Content.IE5 folder... I keep
deleting the Content.IE5 directory itself. Windows recreates the folder when
restarting next time. I have created a small batch file & a registry file
for the purpose.

I've done this many times with never a problem. It's one part of a
general cleanup I do before making an image backup.
 
G

Gary Smith

In microsoft.public.win2000.general Bill in Co. said:
But WHY would you want to delete the TIF after each reboot? Kinda defeats
the purpose of it, doesn't it?

The contents of the TIF folder really aren't very useful unless you have a
slow machine or a slow Internet connebtion and keep returning to the same
pages. Letting too many files accumulate can cause problems, including an
often-reported difficulty in saving JPEG files. Saved copies of outdated
pages can cause confusion. When doing a backup, you don't want to be
backing up a bunch of temporary stuff you'll never need again. Also,
Content.IE5 contains an index.dat file which grows cntinuously. Every now
and then it's good to trash it and start clean.

I don't clear my TIF on every reboot, but I do have IE set to deleted
temporary files when it closes. That doesn't clean out everything, but it
keeps the cruft from building up too rapidly. Everty now and then,
especially before a backup, I'll log on with an alternate administrator
logon and delete the entrie folder.
 
B

Bill in Co.

I'm on a dial up, and there is NO WAY I want to clean out the TIF, except as a
occasional housekeeping routine (like every few months - where I deltree the
whole damn thing in DOS). As I said, it defeats the purpose of it -
especially on a dial up, but also true on a LAN, although the effects will be
noticeably less there, obviously.
 
G

Gary Smith

In microsoft.public.win2000.general Bill in Co. said:
I'm on a dial up, and there is NO WAY I want to clean out the TIF, except as a
occasional housekeeping routine (like every few months - where I deltree the
whole damn thing in DOS). As I said, it defeats the purpose of it -
especially on a dial up, but also true on a LAN, although the effects will be
noticeably less there, obviously.

Bear in mind that only those pages and components you revisit have any
value. Depending on your usage habits, the TIF may be a great benefit, or
nearly useless. In any event, be careful not to over-allocate the TIF.
100 megabytes is probably as large as you should let it grow.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Gary said:
Bear in mind that only those pages and components you revisit have any
value. Depending on your usage habits, the TIF may be a great benefit, or
nearly useless. In any event, be careful not to over-allocate the TIF.
100 megabytes is probably as large as you should let it grow.

Mine is set at 50 MB, and yes, I revisit sites a fair amount, so it definitely
helps.
 

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