defragmenting in XP

[Guest]

I know XP has a built-in disk defragmenter. Many of my friends swear by
Raxco's "PerfectDisk". Others have mentioned the free "Power Defragmenter
3.0".

Question:
Is PD or any free defragmenter better than XP's built-in defrag utility as
far as speeding things up?

Thanks.

Jeff

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

I know XP has a built-in disk defragmenter. Many of my friends swear by

Raxco's "PerfectDisk". Others have mentioned the free "Power Defragmenter
3.0".

Question:
Is PD or any free defragmenter better than XP's built-in defrag utility as
far as speeding things up?

I would probably not swear by them so much as at them. JKDefrag, the
last one you'll ever need and it's free and performance tuned by a
programmer very adept at squeezing blood from stones.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Richie Hardwick]

I would probably not swear by them so much as at them. JKDefrag, the
last one you'll ever need and it's free and performance tuned by a
programmer very adept at squeezing blood from stones.

The newest freebie on the block is Smart Defrag. Try it... you'll
like it.

Diskeeper without the cash payout.

Richie Hardwick

 

[Gerry]

Jeff

Defragmenting only contributes a limited amount to improved performance
so if a third party defragmenter makes any difference it is so marginal
it is hardly worth the effort. You can eliminate much claimed for a
third party defragmenter by better organisation of files on the drive.
Defragmenting is also only one component of good housekeeping.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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[Thee Chicago Wolf]

The newest freebie on the block is Smart Defrag. Try it... you'll

like it.

Diskeeper without the cash payout.

Richie Hardwick

SmartDefrag has nothing but negative things said about it on betanews.
Aulogic's defrag is on par with JK.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Twayne]

I know XP has a built-in disk defragmenter. Many of my friends swear

by Raxco's "PerfectDisk". Others have mentioned the free "Power
Defragmenter 3.0".

Question:
Is PD or any free defragmenter better than XP's built-in defrag
utility as far as speeding things up?

Thanks.

Jeff

Not in my experience, at least. XP's defrag seems to always beat the
others for speed; and nothing is very fast if the amount of
fragmentation has gotten very high although XP's defrag keeps its lead
over others. I think that's because it's straight-forward, without
bells & whistles the 3rd party stuff provides like segmenting areas of
the disk for certain types of data, etc..

OTOH, regardless of which you use, defragging more often will make them
all relatively faster because there is less work to do as a rule.
Depending on what I'm doing I defrag once or twice a month and that
seems to always have reasonable times. But if I've been doing large
scale video editing/rendering, then that particular drive gets defragged
between every session because that sort of thing creates and deletes
files like crazy and the defrag need becomes readily apparent and grows
quickly otherwise until it can take several hours to complete.

Try defragging more often until you reach a point that seems reasonable
to you, and you'll likely be able to figure out a more opportune time
between defrags.

Regards,

 

[Richie Hardwick]

SmartDefrag has nothing but negative things said about it on betanews.

Cite what you are claiming.

If you are talking about user reviews - which go back a couple of
years - they are mixed with plenty in the 4/5 and 5/5 area. Hardly
"nothing but negative things said".

Richie Hardwick

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

Cite what you are claiming.

If you are talking about user reviews - which go back a couple of
years - they are mixed with plenty in the 4/5 and 5/5 area. Hardly
"nothing but negative things said".

Richie Hardwick

Yes, it does have a 4/5 and one 5/5 recently, overall it has a 3.6
rating, not so great. It's possibly subjective and some people give
stupid ratings to give stupid ratings, no objective review. I've tried
a dozen or so freebies, I like what JK does and how it's been coded.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Silverdyne]

I know XP has a built-in disk defragmenter. Many of my friends swear by
Raxco's "PerfectDisk". Others have mentioned the free "Power Defragmenter
3.0".

Question:
Is PD or any free defragmenter better than XP's built-in defrag utility as
far as speeding things up?

Thanks.

Jeff

I have Diskeeper 2008 Professional. It was recommended to me by the IT guys
at work, and it's a slick program. It defrags the drives that the windows
defragger could not, and what's more it defrags them automatically in the
background. All the drives in the desktop are fragmentation free, and I never
have to run a defrag

 

[Richie Hardwick]

Yes, it does have a 4/5 and one 5/5 recently, overall it has a 3.6
rating, not so great. It's possibly subjective and some people give
stupid ratings to give stupid ratings, no objective review. I've tried
a dozen or so freebies, I like what JK does and how it's been coded.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

The 3.6 covers a lot of reviews of beta versions.

I don't like JK. I like Auslogics and SmartDefrag. I use the latter
on my notebook, but Diskeeper on the desktop.

Richie Hardwick

 

[Gerry]

Silverdyne

"It defrags the drives that the windows defragger could not". Please
explain what you mean by this statement?


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Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[Big D]

Silverdyne

"It defrags the drives that the windows defragger could not". Please
explain what you mean by this statement?

I'll take a WAG: some of the third party defraggers (pay-for-play
kind) don't require that 15% of the drive space be available to
accomplish a full defrag.

Diskeeper is one of those.

 

[Gerry]

Big D

That's true. However, if you have significantly less than 15% free disk
space buying a third party defragmenter hardly represents the best value
for money. It would be better put it towards buying a larger hard drive.
You would then have no need of a third party defragmenter. What do you
think represents the best value for money?

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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Twayne]

I have Diskeeper 2008 Professional. It was recommended to me by the
IT guys at work, and it's a slick program. It defrags the drives that
the windows defragger could not, and what's more it defrags them
automatically in the background. All the drives in the desktop are
fragmentation free, and I never have to run a defrag

What did it defrag that windows defrag couldn't? I think there is more
to that than the way you described it; it doesn't make sense.

 

[Big D]

Big D

That's true. However, if you have significantly less than 15% free disk
space buying a third party defragmenter hardly represents the best value
for money. It would be better put it towards buying a larger hard drive.
You would then have no need of a third party defragmenter. What do you
think represents the best value for money?

I'm not the OP. I merely answered your question and now you've taken
the answer and moved off on a different tack.

I'm not familiar with you. Is that your standard style?

 

[HeyBub]

What did it defrag that windows defrag couldn't? I think there is
more to that than the way you described it; it doesn't make sense.

Possibly something like the paging file. But this begs the question: Why
would a particular file need de-fragging?

 

[Randall]

Possibly something like the paging file.

It's obvious that you've not been paying attention.

But this begs the question: Why
would a particular file need de-fragging?

Is that a trick question or did you take a stupid pill this morning
rather than your multi-vitamin?

 

[Gerry]

Big D

Sorry. I don't suffer from tunnel visiion <G>.

There's plenty of my posts in newsgroups like these for you to determine
whether it is my "standard style" <EBG>.
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[HeyBub]

It's obvious that you've not been paying attention.


Is that a trick question or did you take a stupid pill this morning
rather than your multi-vitamin?

I only ask because sometimes there's information missing. For example, I
often hear news commentators and politicians moaning and lamenting about all
the gun-related homicides in their cities. What's missing from the dialog is
whether those dead people needed killing!

In other words, there is often a presumption that may not be well-founded.

In the instant case, the file may be a backup file that will NEVER get
accessed. Jumping through innumerable hoops, spending hours on the project,
or even wasting treasure to GET it de-fragged is equivalent to dusting the
individual pages of books on the shelf - or wringing one's hands over the
deaths of various goblins from the 'hood.

 

[Randall]

I only ask because sometimes there's information missing. For example, I
often hear news commentators and politicians moaning and lamenting about all
the gun-related homicides in their cities. What's missing from the dialog is
whether those dead people needed killing!

"needed killing"? That ices it: either you took a stupid pill or you
come by it (stupid) naturally. I suspect the latter.