Defrag problem

[Guest]

I have a secondard hard drive in my PC. It is 120GB in size and I am using
87GB (72.5% used) of it. It is formatted as NTFS and the cluster size is
4KB. Whenever I run defrag, you can see from the analysis that it would
benefit from being defragmented. Defrag starts, but about 5 seconds later it
is done. You look at the report and nothing changed. Why won't Windows
defrag the drive?

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Run error checking on it, and then try again.. safe mode would be good for
this

 

[DatabaseBen]

Well, I think that your missing the objective of "defrag" . What you are
probably seeing as a problem is the space in-between the unfragmented files.
Then there are files that cannot be moved or relocated. But ultimately,
your defrag is in good shape if your friendly o.s. states so. There are
other defragmentation programs avail as well. They provide different
options, like defragging the empty space.... In addition to windows defrag,
I got one in systemmechanic and I use another that is freeware called O & O
Defrag 2000. I only need one, but the change in the colors and visual
styles between them break up the monotony......

 

[Guest]

after defrag I am told that 4.0GB\Prog. Files\Microsoft Anti Spyware\Errors \
cannot be drefragged.How do I correct or overcome this?

 

[Guest]

I've already run chkdsk, and it didn't find any errors. I can try Safe Mode,
but I'm not sure that will work. I'll try it later. The drive is a
secondary drive and it contains only data. Here is a report from defrag.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
202 82 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_07_39_38.bin
264 86 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_08_26_05.bin
202 100 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_00_45_55.bin
205 103 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_12_16_21.bin
198 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_13_44_18.bin
206 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_20_42_56.bin
196 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_14_44_37.bin
219 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_36_30.bin
216 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_02_19_30.bin
233 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_01_42_32.bin
201 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_02_00_09.bin
213 107 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_18_28.bin
361 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_04_01_33.bin
205 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_15_48_19.bin
215 109 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_02_13.bin
210 110 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_05_18_32_52.bin
196 111 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_00_49.bin
202 114 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_01_10_24.bin
208 117 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_14_37_08.bin
211 119 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_18_32_42.bin
202 120 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_16_37_51.bin
200 125 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_18_50_09.bin
199 128 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_19_13_32.bin
196 129 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_01_45_58.bin
209 132 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_11_50_40.bin
214 133 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_23_34_38.bin
195 135 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_23_00_16.bin
243 139 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_02_06_12.bin
215 142 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_21_10_12.bin
912 6.96 GB \Backup.bkf

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Those files are probably in use and cannot be defragged. Or they are too
large, i.e.
6.96 GB Backup.bkf

I have absolutely no idea what thos .bin files are.

You must have at least 15% free space to defrag properly.

Defrag & Free Space

[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Guest]

I called Diskeeper and they said the version that comes with Windows isn't
"smart" enough to take advantage of the available free space. What I mean is
if defrag determines that not enough contiguous free space is available to
fully defrag a file it will skip it. So even though I have enough free space
available, not enough contiguous free space is available to assemble the
file. FYI

Those files are probably in use and cannot be defragged. Or they are too
large, i.e.
6.96 GB Backup.bkf

I have absolutely no idea what thos .bin files are.

You must have at least 15% free space to defrag properly.

Defrag & Free Space

[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I've already run chkdsk, and it didn't find any errors. I can try Safe
Mode, but I'm not sure that will work. I'll try it later. The drive is a
secondary drive and it contains only data. Here is a report from defrag.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
202 82 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_07_39_38.bin
264 86 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_08_26_05.bin
202 100 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_00_45_55.bin
205 103 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_12_16_21.bin
198 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_13_44_18.bin
206 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_20_42_56.bin
196 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_14_44_37.bin
219 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_36_30.bin
216 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_02_19_30.bin
233 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_01_42_32.bin
201 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_02_00_09.bin
213 107 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_18_28.bin
361 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_04_01_33.bin
205 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_15_48_19.bin
215 109 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_02_13.bin
210 110 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_05_18_32_52.bin
196 111 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_00_49.bin
202 114 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_01_10_24.bin
208 117 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_14_37_08.bin
211 119 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_18_32_42.bin
202 120 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_16_37_51.bin
200 125 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_18_50_09.bin
199 128 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_19_13_32.bin
196 129 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_01_45_58.bin
209 132 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_11_50_40.bin
214 133 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_23_34_38.bin
195 135 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_23_00_16.bin
243 139 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_02_06_12.bin
215 142 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_21_10_12.bin
912 6.96 GB \Backup.bkf

 

[Wesley Vogel]

So, you buying Diskeeper 10 Home Edition?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I called Diskeeper and they said the version that comes with Windows isn't
"smart" enough to take advantage of the available free space. What I
mean is if defrag determines that not enough contiguous free space is
available to fully defrag a file it will skip it. So even though I have
enough free space available, not enough contiguous free space is
available to assemble the file. FYI

Those files are probably in use and cannot be defragged. Or they are too
large, i.e.
6.96 GB Backup.bkf

I have absolutely no idea what thos .bin files are.

You must have at least 15% free space to defrag properly.

Defrag & Free Space

[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for
file fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will
only partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume,
delete unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes
that have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete
unneeded files or move them to another volume to increase the free space
to at least 15 percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to
delete unnecessary files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see
Windows XP Professional Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report
to see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain
fragmented (having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file
might remain fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all
files. Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to
completely defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I've already run chkdsk, and it didn't find any errors. I can try Safe
Mode, but I'm not sure that will work. I'll try it later. The drive
is a secondary drive and it contains only data. Here is a report from
defrag. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
202 82 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_07_39_38.bin
264 86 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_08_26_05.bin
202 100 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_00_45_55.bin
205 103 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_12_16_21.bin
198 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_13_44_18.bin
206 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_20_42_56.bin
196 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_14_44_37.bin
219 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_36_30.bin
216 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_02_19_30.bin
233 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_01_42_32.bin
201 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_02_00_09.bin
213 107 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_18_28.bin
361 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_04_01_33.bin
205 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_15_48_19.bin
215 109 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_02_13.bin
210 110 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_05_18_32_52.bin
196 111 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_00_49.bin
202 114 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_01_10_24.bin
208 117 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_14_37_08.bin
211 119 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_18_32_42.bin
202 120 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_16_37_51.bin
200 125 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_18_50_09.bin
199 128 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_19_13_32.bin
196 129 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_01_45_58.bin
209 132 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_11_50_40.bin
214 133 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_23_34_38.bin
195 135 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_23_00_16.bin
243 139 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_02_06_12.bin
215 142 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_21_10_12.bin
912 6.96 GB \Backup.bkf

:

Run error checking on it, and then try again.. safe mode would be good
for this


--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



I have a secondard hard drive in my PC. It is 120GB in size and I am
using 87GB (72.5% used) of it. It is formatted as NTFS and the
cluster size is 4KB. Whenever I run defrag, you can see from the
analysis that it would benefit from being defragmented. Defrag
starts, but about 5 seconds later it
is done. You look at the report and nothing changed. Why won't
Windows defrag the drive?

 

[DatabaseBen]

i had diskkeeper lite version that came as a bundle with my pc and a nag to
buy feature. but it wasn't worth the additional expense to me for the full
version. As mentioned I get good results with what i got...

I called Diskeeper and they said the version that comes with Windows isn't
"smart" enough to take advantage of the available free space. What I mean
is
if defrag determines that not enough contiguous free space is available to
fully defrag a file it will skip it. So even though I have enough free
space
available, not enough contiguous free space is available to assemble the
file. FYI

Those files are probably in use and cannot be defragged. Or they are too
large, i.e.
6.96 GB Backup.bkf

I have absolutely no idea what thos .bin files are.

You must have at least 15% free space to defrag properly.

Defrag & Free Space

[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for
file
fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes
that
have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded
files
or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP
Professional
Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report
to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain
fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all
files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to
completely
defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I've already run chkdsk, and it didn't find any errors. I can try Safe
Mode, but I'm not sure that will work. I'll try it later. The drive
is a
secondary drive and it contains only data. Here is a report from
defrag.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
202 82 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_07_39_38.bin
264 86 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_08_26_05.bin
202 100 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_00_45_55.bin
205 103 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_12_16_21.bin
198 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_13_44_18.bin
206 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_20_42_56.bin
196 104 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_12_14_44_37.bin
219 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_36_30.bin
216 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_02_19_30.bin
233 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_07_01_42_32.bin
201 105 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_02_00_09.bin
213 107 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_18_28.bin
361 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_04_01_33.bin
205 108 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_15_48_19.bin
215 109 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_13_21_02_13.bin
210 110 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_05_18_32_52.bin
196 111 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_07_00_49.bin
202 114 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_01_10_24.bin
208 117 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_04_14_37_08.bin
211 119 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_11_18_32_42.bin
202 120 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_16_37_51.bin
200 125 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_06_18_50_09.bin
199 128 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_19_13_32.bin
196 129 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_01_45_58.bin
209 132 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_11_50_40.bin
214 133 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_08_23_34_38.bin
195 135 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_23_00_16.bin
243 139 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_02_06_12.bin
215 142 MB \FFT\Data\Data_06_08_09_21_10_12.bin
912 6.96 GB \Backup.bkf

:

Run error checking on it, and then try again.. safe mode would be good
for this


--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



I have a secondard hard drive in my PC. It is 120GB in size and I am
using 87GB (72.5% used) of it. It is formatted as NTFS and the
cluster
size is 4KB. Whenever I run defrag, you can see from the analysis
that
it would benefit from being defragmented. Defrag starts, but about 5
seconds later it
is done. You look at the report and nothing changed. Why won't
Windows
defrag the drive?