Defining "Elegant"

[Nina DiBoy]

Justin, I don't know why you continue to waste your time with this linux
loser.
He's a good for nothing nobody just like all the rest of the linux loser.
They have nothing of any value to offer anyone in this ng except their
vile hatred of MS.
Frank

Glad to hear you find our "hatred of MS" valuable.


--
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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Alias]

* Alias:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

<quote>
It's a tough thing when you're doing a review of a distribution that you want to like but end
up having to pan it. The latest version of Ubuntu Linux is called Feisty Fawn, and about all I
can see it being good for is venison. We found it to be a real stinker in some ways, despite
past versions of Ubuntu having been fairly good.
</quote>

Sigh. Obviously the writer of the story has not investigated or asked
for help with Ubuntu. He didn't even know about automatix2. Had he known
about it, he wouldn't have had the problems he had.

Nice try but no cigar.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Your memory sucks as well. I've had 6.x installed in the past with
major driver problems.

Now, where has that eight year old run off to when Justin needs him?

I have server level linux distros installed with
no problems.

So what's your linux excuse now? Seems all you have is that anyone with
linux problems is not smarter then an 8 year old.
Yawn.


And saying people are dumber then a 8 year old isn't?

Dumb and ignorant are two different things. Some people are both. If the
shoe fits ...

Calling people
pathetic?

I called the effort pathetic, which it was.

Why is it you can insult people left and right but when you
are insulted you act like a little b!itch about it?

Compared to you, Richard Urban and Frank, I'm a bloody saint.

Alias

 

[Justin]

Now, where has that eight year old run off to when Justin needs him?

Wow, it's nice to know that you insult both the Windows and Linux community.
That explains why you have no friends.

Yawn.

Typical, you always ignore direct FACTS when it comes to how wrong you were.

Dumb and ignorant are two different things. Some people are both. If the
shoe fits ...


I called the effort pathetic, which it was.

More back peddling BS.

Compared to you, Richard Urban and Frank, I'm a bloody saint.

HAHAHAHA!!! Like I said, "ego in the clouds". Thanks for proving me right.

 

[Justin]

Sigh. Obviously the writer of the story has not investigated or asked for
help with Ubuntu. He didn't even know about automatix2. Had he known about
it, he wouldn't have had the problems he had.

Nice try but no cigar.

Alias

Wow, talk about denial! I'm surprised you didn't call the reviewer a liar
and claim that he never actually installed Ubuntu.

Excuses excuses excuses....

Automatix is a graphical interface for automating the installation of the
most commonly requested applications in Debian based Linux operating
systems.

It has nothing to do with display issues, network issues, codec issues, it
does not fix problems with the Windows Migration Tool. So NO alias, that
would not have helped him or the many other people that have had problems.

 

[Alias]

Wow, talk about denial! I'm surprised you didn't call the reviewer a
liar and claim that he never actually installed Ubuntu.

Excuses excuses excuses....

Automatix is a graphical interface for automating the installation of
the most commonly requested applications in Debian based Linux operating
systems.

It has nothing to do with display issues, network issues, codec issues,
it does not fix problems with the Windows Migration Tool. So NO alias,
that would not have helped him or the many other people that have had
problems.

Yawn, you don't know what you're talking about.

Alias

 

[Justin]

Yawn, you don't know what you're talking about.

Alias

Ok, then explain how Automatix2 can correct display issues, codec issues and
how it fixes problems with the Windows Migration Tool.

Since you very specifically told us that Automatix2 would have fixed his
problems, meaning ALL his problems.

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:

Sigh. Obviously the writer of the story has not investigated or asked
for help with Ubuntu. He didn't even know about automatix2. Had he known
about it, he wouldn't have had the problems he had.

You are really no different than those you accuse of the very same.

I guarantee you, Jim Lynch knows far more about Linux than you
ever will. So, he didn't like the new Ubuntu... did that hurt your feelings
in some way? Make you cry? Cause that's how you act. Which is really
no different than some of the Windows dorks that spout non-stop or get
all bent out of shape if you criticize Vista/Microsoft.... you just spew for your
point of view. Which comes across as a borderline obnoxious fanatic.

http://www.jimlynch.com/

Oh, I reckon Jim was out of his mind when he wrote this review;
<quote>
Overall, I had a great experience with Ubuntu. I found the desktop environment comfortable and
easy to use. The application selection was quite good and I had the option to add plenty of
other applications if I wanted to. The installer worked well, and I even got to try Ubuntu via
the Live CD without actually installing a thing.
</quote
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1999332,00.asp

Nice try but no cigar.

I wasn't trying to do anything. Perhaps, you could have offered up a
well thought out opinion of your own, instead you become defensive and
attack the author. That sounds all too familiar. You are nothing but
a hypocrite, Alias. A persistent one, but a hypocrite none the less.
As I said, you are no different than those you accuse... that's just the way
a fanatic is- they're all for voicing opinions, just don't voice it against whatever
their sacred beliefs are. Pitiful, just like the rest of them.


-Michael

 

[Frank]

Nina DiBoy wrote:

Glad to hear you find our "hatred of MS" valuable.

You mean like your out of context quotes?
Not in my life time nor boy.
Frank

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

Wow, talk about denial! I'm surprised you didn't call the reviewer a liar
and claim that he never actually installed Ubuntu.

Excuses excuses excuses....

Automatix is a graphical interface for automating the installation of the
most commonly requested applications in Debian based Linux operating
systems.

Sorry, but as usual, you are not correct. Automatix is made specifically for
Ubuntu and Mepis. It won't work with Debian at all, nor any other Debian
based distro then the 2 I've named.

It has nothing to do with display issues, network issues, codec issues,

Sorry, again you're wrong. Automatix is designed specifically to assist in
issues like display drivers and easy installation of codecs.

it
does not fix problems with the Windows Migration Tool.

Many have NO need for a Windows Migration tool. We don't have any Windows to
migrate from.

So NO alias, that
would not have helped him or the many other people that have had problems.

And you, who know so little about Linux, couldn't have helped either. But
you are good at spreading your bullshit and FUD.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[Alias]

* Alias:

You are really no different than those you accuse of the very same.

I guarantee you, Jim Lynch knows far more about Linux than you
ever will. So, he didn't like the new Ubuntu... did that hurt your feelings
in some way? Make you cry? Cause that's how you act. Which is really
no different than some of the Windows dorks that spout non-stop or get
all bent out of shape if you criticize Vista/Microsoft.... you just spew for your
point of view. Which comes across as a borderline obnoxious fanatic.

http://www.jimlynch.com/

Oh, I reckon Jim was out of his mind when he wrote this review;
<quote>
Overall, I had a great experience with Ubuntu. I found the desktop environment comfortable and
easy to use. The application selection was quite good and I had the option to add plenty of
other applications if I wanted to. The installer worked well, and I even got to try Ubuntu via
the Live CD without actually installing a thing.
</quote
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1999332,00.asp


I wasn't trying to do anything. Perhaps, you could have offered up a
well thought out opinion of your own, instead you become defensive and
attack the author. That sounds all too familiar. You are nothing but
a hypocrite, Alias. A persistent one, but a hypocrite none the less.
As I said, you are no different than those you accuse... that's just the way
a fanatic is- they're all for voicing opinions, just don't voice it against whatever
their sacred beliefs are. Pitiful, just like the rest of them.


-Michael

You're the one getting touchy and insulting, not me. Reread the article.
The man didn't mention, much less use, Automatix2. Have you used it?
Have you installed Feisty Fawn?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Ok, then explain how Automatix2 can correct display issues, codec issues
and how it fixes problems with the Windows Migration Tool.

Since you very specifically told us that Automatix2 would have fixed his
problems, meaning ALL his problems.

Yawn, you don't know what you're talking about.

Alias

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:

You're the one getting touchy and insulting, not me. Reread the article.
The man didn't mention, much less use, Automatix2. Have you used it?
Have you installed Feisty Fawn?

I still have Ubuntu 6.06 on another computer's partition. I have not
tried 7.04, yet. I also have not installed Automatix2. I had actually thought
about it a few weeks ago and had found some of the better instructions on
how to install it at http://www.howtoforge.com/automatix_ubuntu
I just haven't had the time, and I've been playing around with Longhorn Server.
When I do try both of them, I'll let you know... count on it.

Many times those that take a hard stand become inflexible,
stubborn, defensive, think they are being attacked when
someone offers an opinion, and sees enemies where there
are not any.... think George Bush.

Even though a lot of what you say is true, you come across
as rigid and quite fanatical. It's really not necessary to get
your point across. Your actions have probably done more
to hurt your message than help.

I'm not going to get into some useless back and forth with
you, there are others here that will oblige that addiction.

Just one last thing- Have you installed Vista? Have you used it?

If you want to discuss this any further, take it to email, mine
is valid temporary one.

Take care,

Michael

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

* Alias:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp

<quote>
It's a tough thing when you're doing a review of a distribution that you
want to like but end up having to pan it. The latest version of Ubuntu
Linux is called Feisty Fawn, and about all I can see it being good for is
venison. We found it to be a real stinker in some ways, despite past
versions of Ubuntu having been fairly good. </quote>

Is this the same Jim Lynch, Wintard supreme that had this to say?

http://www.jimlynch.com/

The moron wasn't prepared to tweak anything and expected EVERYTHING to work
right after an install with Feisty. He should know that he had to tweak his
Windoze and even go out and find drivers for it. But with Feisty, he was
too lazy to try.

BTW, yesterday I installed Ubuntu Feisty on one of my laptops. Unlike
Lynch's experience, ALL worked right out of the box ... video setup
properly, wireless worked, sound worked, everything worked. Easiest install
I've ever done. Took all of 30 minutes. I installed it as a dual-boot with
Ubuntu Dapper and it even allowed me to import my Firefox settings from the
other o/s during install.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[MICHAEL]

* Doris Day - MFB:

Is this the same Jim Lynch, Wintard supreme that had this to say?

Typical. It's a shame some just can't tolerate a different opinion.

http://www.jimlynch.com/

The moron wasn't prepared to tweak anything and expected EVERYTHING to work
right after an install with Feisty. He should know that he had to tweak his
Windoze and even go out and find drivers for it. But with Feisty, he was
too lazy to try.

Jim, a lifelong PC/Windows user, has become more involved with
Linux and generally has many positive things to say about Ubuntu,
and Linux, overall.
Yet, you attack him because you feel his review isn't glorious enough.
Even though he is making real attempts at using Linux flavors and giving
them good press, most of the time.

BTW, yesterday I installed Ubuntu Feisty on one of my laptops. Unlike
Lynch's experience, ALL worked right out of the box ... video setup
properly, wireless worked, sound worked, everything worked. Easiest install
I've ever done. Took all of 30 minutes. I installed it as a dual-boot with
Ubuntu Dapper and it even allowed me to import my Firefox settings from the
other o/s during install.

That sounds exactly like what a few Windows fanatics say whenever a user
has a problem. "Works for me, must be your fault." No difference, except the
banner for which you spew your nescience.


-Michael

 

[Alias]

* Doris Day - MFB:

Typical. It's a shame some just can't tolerate a different opinion.


Jim, a lifelong PC/Windows user, has become more involved with
Linux and generally has many positive things to say about Ubuntu,
and Linux, overall.
Yet, you attack him because you feel his review isn't glorious enough.
Even though he is making real attempts at using Linux flavors and giving
them good press, most of the time.


That sounds exactly like what a few Windows fanatics say whenever a user
has a problem. "Works for me, must be your fault." No difference, except the
banner for which you spew your nescience.


-Michael

Sorry, but the problems your hero had are not problems that can't be
solved and solved a lot easier than searching for Windows drivers,
installing .Net just to run an ATI card, etc.

Doris is spot on and you're just being an apologist for someone who
didn't do their homework before installing Feisty Fawn.

Alias

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

* Doris Day - MFB:

Typical. It's a shame some just can't tolerate a different opinion.


Jim, a lifelong PC/Windows user, has become more involved with
Linux and generally has many positive things to say about Ubuntu,
and Linux, overall.
Yet, you attack him because you feel his review isn't glorious enough.
Even though he is making real attempts at using Linux flavors and giving
them good press, most of the time.


That sounds exactly like what a few Windows fanatics say whenever a user
has a problem. "Works for me, must be your fault." No difference, except
the banner for which you spew your nescience.

I wasn't suggesting that because it worked so well on my laptop that would
be the case for everyone. I simply reported my first encounter with Ubuntu
Feisty. My laptop obviously contained hardware that was supported by Ubuntu
Feisty, right out of the box. Lynch's hardware obviously had some problems.
All could have been overcome in his case, had he attempted to get things
working. But he didn't. He tried it, felt that getting something as simple
a flash working in his browser shouldn't require any further effort and
shit on the distro. He's obviously a moron or just felt he'd write
a "review" that was easy to hammer out to keep his name in lights.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[Justin]

Yawn, you don't know what you're talking about.

Alias

There you have it folks!

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:

Sorry, but the problems your hero had are not problems that can't be
solved and solved a lot easier than searching for Windows drivers,
installing .Net just to run an ATI card, etc.

Doris is spot on and you're just being an apologist for someone who
didn't do their homework before installing Feisty Fawn.

The only heroes I have are my parents.

As usual, you really are a waste of time,
and I've tried to be civil towards you.
But your fanaticism has gotten old and
quite boring.

Carry on.


-Michael

 

[Justin]

Is this the same Jim Lynch, Wintard supreme that had this to say?

At the very least it's the same one that gave a thumbs up review of Ubuntu
6.x and stated that he WANTED to like 7.x. That's about all I know of him.