Create backup of XP operating system

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I've just bought a new desktop with XP already installed. I didn't get the
original Windows XP discs, so I need to make a backup of the operating
system. What files do I copy and where are they located? Also, this is XP
sp2(??) Is this the latest version of XP?
 
Contact the manufacturer of your new PC and
ask them what Windows XP recovery procedure
they recommend. Windows XP with SP2 installed
is the latest version. Make sure to visit the Windows
Update web site for more critical updates.

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| I've just bought a new desktop with XP already installed. I didn't get the
| original Windows XP discs, so I need to make a backup of the operating
| system. What files do I copy and where are they located? Also, this is XP
| sp2(??) Is this the latest version of XP?
 
SP2 is the latest version, but I doubt that you will be able to make a
backup CD of the operating system. If you do find out how to, post the
details here. It will be one in the eye for M$ who will be reaping large
amounts of money from all those suckers who have bought a PC without the CD
for the operating system.

| I've just bought a new desktop with XP already installed. I didn't get
the
| original Windows XP discs, so I need to make a backup of the operating
| system. What files do I copy and where are they located? Also, this is
XP
| sp2(??) Is this the latest version of XP?
 
check your documentation.
usually there is a procedure for you to create a set of recovery cds or you
get one recovery cd that reads a partition on hard drive.

need to do some personal research. check computer mfg website or product
literature.

they have to gibve a means for recovery!!!!1
 
it's by design. the mfg cuts cost by not providing recovery cd. individual
has to run program to create recovery cds
 
What program?


| it's by design. the mfg cuts cost by not providing recovery cd. individual
| has to run program to create recovery cds
|
| "Stickems." wrote:
|
| > SP2 is the latest version, but I doubt that you will be able to make a
| > backup CD of the operating system. If you do find out how to, post the
| > details here. It will be one in the eye for M$ who will be reaping large
| > amounts of money from all those suckers who have bought a PC without the
CD
| > for the operating system.
| >
| > | > | I've just bought a new desktop with XP already installed. I didn't
get
| > the
| > | original Windows XP discs, so I need to make a backup of the operating
| > | system. What files do I copy and where are they located? Also, this
is
| > XP
| > | sp2(??) Is this the latest version of XP?
| >
| >
| >
 
SteveR said:
I've just bought a new desktop with XP already installed. I didn't get the
original Windows XP discs, so I need to make a backup of the operating
system. What files do I copy and where are they located? Also, this is XP
sp2(??) Is this the latest version of XP?

Yeah, been there, done that. Toshiba did give me a restore set of 3
CD's that will restore my laptop to as supplied condition - XP (SP1
only), reinstall all the useless OEM stuff Toshiba provided, and force
me to reinstall all my software, all subsequent Windows updates and all
my data. Not funny at all. Next time, I will only buy a laptop with a
certified bootable O/S on CD or DVD or something that will let me do a
windows repair without losing all my stuff!

But to answer your questions:

SP2 is the latest version but there are quite a few further updates you
need to install from the MS online update site.

You could try to make a slipstream CD of winXP from the windows i386
install folder that will be on your computer somewhere, downloading and
incorporating all the latest updates, but I don't think it will work.
I've tried three or four different ways and burned umpteen CD's but
can't reinstall or repair XP from any of them: I now believe that to do
an effective slipstreamed OS CD incorporating all current updates, you
have to start with the original OS CD.

You can (before you add too much other junk) get XP completely up to
date, install your major-use programs then burn a disk image using Ghost
or Acronis true Image or similar image backup program, which you can
then restore quickly if windows stuffs up. That's a pretty good option,
but you still need to reinstall all subsequent programs and OS updates.
I assume you backup all data frequently, and can restore that too.

You can keep making later images, but gradually XP will get loaded with
junk and start performing slowly, and restoring from later images will
not fix such problems.

Or you can say the equivalent of "Stuff you, Toshiba" and buy yourself
another copy of XP, and install that when and if you ever need to.
Again, not very satisfactory, but probably the least hassle option.

Whatever, if you do have to reinstall windows clean, there are a lot of
settings and keys and passwords that you need to have recorded somewhere
so you can restore them and get all your programs working - data backups
won't pick up many of these items.

Anyway, best of luck. I'm now, after 3 years of using my Toshiba P20,
debating whether to buy another copy of Win XP and do a clean install,
or just give up on it and get a new computer WITH an OS CD.
 
Yeah, been there, done that. Toshiba did give me a restore set of 3
CD's that will restore my laptop to as supplied condition - XP (SP1
only), reinstall all the useless OEM stuff Toshiba provided, and force
me to reinstall all my software, all subsequent Windows updates and all
my data. Not funny at all. Next time, I will only buy a laptop with a
certified bootable O/S on CD or DVD or something that will let me do a
windows repair without losing all my stuff!

settings and keys and passwords that you need to have recorded somewhere
so you can restore them and get all your programs working - data backups
won't pick up many of these items.

Anyway, best of luck. I'm now, after 3 years of using my Toshiba P20,
debating whether to buy another copy of Win XP and do a clean install,
or just give up on it and get a new computer WITH an OS CD.


Next time??? You probably will never find a laptop. This is a gimmick to
"lock" you to the manufacturer. I never seen a laptop with the "full" OS
install CD yet (I have not dealt with Dell!!) Your better off buy a Retail of
the FULL XP install. It may be expensive, but you will have the right to
move it to another PC (unlike the OEM versions!)
 
Dixonian69 said:
On an HP at leasst there was a software/program on the computer to"Create
Recovery CD Set".

This program!!!
HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Creating Recovery CDs and DVDs Using Recovery
Creator Software
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ocname=bph08097&product=407666&dlc=en&lang=en

Other makers such as Toshiba give you the recovery CD set on CD (3 CDs
for my P20) so you don't have to create it yourself. But many people
used to delete the hidden partition to recover the extra memory and then
rely on the recovery CD's - perhaps not so many these days with large
HDD available. I think the HP Creator software only allows you to make
one copy of the image, which could be a problem - I can and have made
backup copies of the Toshiba recovery CD's, just in case.

The basic problem with this technique is that it restores your PC to the
original as-delivered status, including all the junk OEM programs that I
got rid of on week 2 of ownership. All your working programmes are lost
and have to be reinstalled, and all your data restored from backups.
You also have to get all the XP updates again - and in my system that
includes SP2. A lot of work!

It would have been nice to have been given the XP CD (after all, what
extra would it cost - you get the licence anyway) so you could at least
try a repair rather than a full reinstall.

So I still recommend using good imaging software to make a disk or
partition image of the disk or partition that holds windows, and to
update that image whenever you install updates to the OS. For economy
of effort, I also recommend installing software programs and recording
data on another disk or partition to the one which contains XP, but
sometimes that can be difficult - lots of software wants to put the data
on C.
 
Yves said:
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Next time??? You probably will never find a laptop. This is a gimmick to
"lock" you to the manufacturer. I never seen a laptop with the "full" OS
install CD yet (I have not dealt with Dell!!) Your better off buy a Retail of
the FULL XP install. It may be expensive, but you will have the right to
move it to another PC (unlike the OEM versions!)


Yes, thanks Yves, I think you are right. I did get a Dell five or six
years ago that came with an MS Win 98 CD, but I don't know about now.

I haven't looked for a new laptop yet, so there may possibly be one out
there with a full XP CD, but getting a separate full retail XP CD is
probably the way I will have to go.

My one reservation with buying a full retail XP install CD for my
present P20 is that Toshiba seems to have done some funny tweaks - eg
to the Help system - and I'm not sure if there are any important ones
hidden away that might stop the retail XP version from installing
correctly or completely, or might deny me some capabilities.

Has anybody had any experience with this and can confirm that the
installation will go OK? I have got the necessary Toshiba custom
software and drivers from the Toshiba site, so that's no problem - I'm
just concerned that they may have tweaked XP itself.
 
Peter said:
Yes, thanks Yves, I think you are right. I did get a Dell five or six
years ago that came with an MS Win 98 CD, but I don't know about now.

I haven't looked for a new laptop yet, so there may possibly be one out
there with a full XP CD, but getting a separate full retail XP CD is
probably the way I will have to go.

My one reservation with buying a full retail XP install CD for my
present P20 is that Toshiba seems to have done some funny tweaks - eg
to the Help system - and I'm not sure if there are any important ones
hidden away that might stop the retail XP version from installing
correctly or completely, or might deny me some capabilities.

Has anybody had any experience with this and can confirm that the
installation will go OK? I have got the necessary Toshiba custom
software and drivers from the Toshiba site, so that's no problem - I'm
just concerned that they may have tweaked XP itself.
That sounds like a very good question for the Tosh support that should
accompany an OEM version of an operating system.

As for moi?
If a bit of kit can't support a full retail version of an operating
sytem I wouldn't touch that kit with a proverbial bargepole for all the
proverbial tea in China

(what did they do to make it so ermmm ... unique?)
 

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