CPU temperature monitor

[SANTANDER]

could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can works
with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor, Intel
845GV chipset)

Thanks,

 

[smlunatick]

could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can works
with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor, Intel
845GV chipset)

Thanks,

Several motherboard makers have their own tools for this. You wyour
motherboard maker does not, you can check with Speed Fan to see if
your motherboard is "support.

I am using Motherboard Monitor, which unfortunately is no longer
supported. The major reason that they are limited "thrid" party
utilities is that motherboard makers tend to not want to "publish"
details on their motherboard sensors. The auther of Motherboard
Monitor gave up because of this.

 

[Brian A.]

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[RJK]

I use
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php reccommended by someone in here, ...
It works correctly identifies and reports temps, on my Intel and AMD based
motherboards, cpu core & motherboard temp sensor, and on my AMD boards it
even reports the GPU core temperature in AGP slot graphics cards !
I was so pleased with the quality, (and obviously the large amount of effort
that the author has obviously put into it that I donated a little money at
his site).

regards, Richard

 

[RJK]

....having said that, Speedfan voltage reports are quite inaccurate. For
example, it claims that my Seasonic psu 12v rail is providing only 8.4
volts, which wildly disagrees with my voltmeter !!
Temperature reports are okay though, ...if you can work out which one is
which !

regards, Richard

 

[VanguardLH]

...having said that, Speedfan voltage reports are quite inaccurate. For
example, it claims that my Seasonic psu 12v rail is providing only 8.4
volts, which wildly disagrees with my voltmeter !!
Temperature reports are okay though, ...if you can work out which one is
which !

How is it Speedfan's fault that a motherboard sensor reports an
incorrect value? Have you rebooted into the BIOS screens to see what
voltages are listed in its health screen? Have you tried using the
monitor program that your motherboard maker provides to see if it is
accurate or jibes with Speedfan?

 

[VanguardLH]

could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can works
with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor, Intel
845GV chipset)

Thanks,

Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
(that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
have)?

Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it to
regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.

 

[RJK]

Whilst hunting around for a motherboard sensor chip program a while ago, I
noticed lots of people commenting that Speedfan doesn't report the correct
psu voltages. Other temp. reporting progs. did not recognize my Winbond
W83627EHG chip - Speedfan did. However, I was only interested in the
temperature reports

My main PC with a Seasonic 430 watt SII psu in it - Bios screen:-
Vcore 1.264-256
+3.30 3.312 V
+5.00 5.112 V
+12.00 12.302-355...which all agree with a quality digital Voltmeter

Speedfan:-
Vcore: 1.27 V
+12V: 8.45V
AVcc: 3.25V

....so it seems that Speedfan is getting it wrong !

regards, Richard

 

[VanguardLH]

Whilst hunting around for a motherboard sensor chip program a while ago, I
noticed lots of people commenting that Speedfan doesn't report the correct
psu voltages. Other temp. reporting progs. did not recognize my Winbond
W83627EHG chip - Speedfan did. However, I was only interested in the
temperature reports

My main PC with a Seasonic 430 watt SII psu in it - Bios screen:-
Vcore 1.264-256
+3.30 3.312 V
+5.00 5.112 V
+12.00 12.302-355...which all agree with a quality digital Voltmeter

Speedfan:-
Vcore: 1.27 V
+12V: 8.45V
AVcc: 3.25V

...so it seems that Speedfan is getting it wrong !

It's possible. Tables are used to lookup the output from the chips to
determine what the mean. Looks like the sensor on your mobo doesn't
have a table in Speedfan or it is using the wrong table. Same thing
happens in the Motherboard Monitor (MBM) utility.

You might want to go under Configure -> Advanced and see what sensors
are listed in the Chip drop-down list.

 

[SANTANDER]

could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can works
with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor, Intel
845GV chipset)

Thanks,

Several motherboard makers have their own tools for this. You wyour
motherboard maker does not, you can check with Speed Fan to see if
your motherboard is "support.

I am using Motherboard Monitor, which unfortunately is no longer
supported. The major reason that they are limited "thrid" party
utilities is that motherboard makers tend to not want to "publish"
details on their motherboard sensors. The auther of Motherboard
Monitor gave up because of this.
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My motherboard is Asrock P4i45GV, there is CPU temperature sensing, Chassis
temperature sensing, but I want watch this use some simple utility, that is
more handy than entering to BIOS.

thanks

 

[SANTANDER]

I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing, but
the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD temp.

Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Tony

===================

my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there may
be problems?
Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?


thanks

 

[SANTANDER]

Fan speed seems about normal. CPU temp is specific to your CPU, though I
can tell you that the newer CPU's are designed to run hotter - or perhaps
I should say "run at higher normal temperatures" than the ones of a few
years ago. I THINK the maximum sustained temp should not go above 150F,
but I'd like to see you get advice from someone who knows that area more
intimately than me. Running "hot", but within *normal parameters* should
not shorten the CPU's life. But running excessively hot shortens the life
of any electrical component, yes. It's a matter of what "excessive" is
for your chip.

Tony

CPU type is Intel Celeron D 330, 2666 MHz (20 x 133) (Socket 478) 533MHz
256k
I find that critical temperature for this CPU is 67°C
So it definitelly run at higher normal temperature?

Thanks

 

[RJK]

You'll soon know if it's too hot, software'll start locking up.
Thermal design for Intel Celeron D 330 posibly is, 5-67 deg.C :-
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celer...67256 - NE80546RE067256 (BX80546RE2667C).html
....so you are near the upper lmit. Cooler would be better,
check and, if necessary, improve airflow through the case.
check cpu heatsink and fan are not clogged with dust, clean if necessary,
and make sure that the heatsink is correctly fitted. (If using compressed
air, (or an old "dedicated" Electrolux vaccum cleaner as I do - with pipe
connected to exhaust ! ), do not allow the fans to spin up and generate
damaging voltages !!!!
Perhaps remove cpu h/s and clean the mating surfaces and apply a fresh thin
film of good quality thermal paste.
If it's a stock h/s, consider replacing it with a better quality
copper/heatpipe design h/s + fan, they're quite cheap nowadays.
I had 38deg.C. at idle on my D935, and around 45deg.C. under load using the
stock Intel h/s and fan.
Now with a cheap Akasa triple heatpipe +fan idle temp. is 32deg.C. ...(alway
quite cool out here in office),
and when under load never gets anywhere near 45deg.C. as it did with the
stock cooler.

When I removed my Stock Intel h/s it was evident that the pre-applied paste
had not spread out sufficiently, i.e. it had remained too thick, and I
suspect the "paste" was acting a more as a heat barrier, rather than
complimenting or assisting heat transfer from cpu lid to the base of the
heatsink.

regards, Richard

 

[smlunatick]

How is it Speedfan's fault that a motherboard sensor reports an
incorrect value?  Have you rebooted into the BIOS screens to see what
voltages are listed in its health screen?  Have you tried using the
monitor program that your motherboard maker provides to see if it is
accurate or jibes with Speedfan?

If the sensors are not reporting the correct values, I would blame the
motherboard / sensor / chipset makers. They "feel" that their
"sensors" reporting method is proprietary information. Because of
this, they are extremely reluctant to let any other company know about
the method of getting the values accurately even if the other company
a non-disclosure clause (NDC???)

 

[SANTANDER]

You'll soon know if it's too hot, software'll start locking up.
Thermal design for Intel Celeron D 330 posibly is, 5-67 deg.C :-
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celer...67256 - NE80546RE067256 (BX80546RE2667C).html
...so you are near the upper lmit. Cooler would be better,
check and, if necessary, improve airflow through the case.
check cpu heatsink and fan are not clogged with dust, clean if necessary,
and make sure that the heatsink is correctly fitted. (If using compressed
air, (or an old "dedicated" Electrolux vaccum cleaner as I do - with pipe
connected to exhaust ! ), do not allow the fans to spin up and generate
damaging voltages !!!!
Perhaps remove cpu h/s and clean the mating surfaces and apply a fresh
thin film of good quality thermal paste.
If it's a stock h/s, consider replacing it with a better quality
copper/heatpipe design h/s + fan, they're quite cheap nowadays.
I had 38deg.C. at idle on my D935, and around 45deg.C. under load using
the stock Intel h/s and fan.
Now with a cheap Akasa triple heatpipe +fan idle temp. is 32deg.C.
...(alway quite cool out here in office),
and when under load never gets anywhere near 45deg.C. as it did with the
stock cooler.

When I removed my Stock Intel h/s it was evident that the pre-applied
paste had not spread out sufficiently, i.e. it had remained too thick, and
I suspect the "paste" was acting a more as a heat barrier, rather than
complimenting or assisting heat transfer from cpu lid to the base of the
heatsink.

regards, Richard

-------------

this will require completely disassembly of PC and removal of motherboard
in order to clean fan or replace thermal paste?
Does the fan rotation can damage the processor? When I cleaned an old
computer, the vacuum cleaner very strongly tightened air and the CPU fan
rotated.

Santander

 

[RJK]

My tips were clear, if you're not proficent or competent working with PC
hardware, I'd leave it alone, and take it to a reputable Pc shop !!!!

regards, Richard

 

[Onsokumaru]

How is it Speedfan's fault that a motherboard sensor reports an
incorrect value? Have you rebooted into the BIOS screens to see what
voltages are listed in its health screen? Have you tried using the
monitor program that your motherboard maker provides to see if it is
accurate or jibes with Speedfan?

If the sensors are not reporting the correct values, I would blame the
motherboard / sensor / chipset makers. They "feel" that their
"sensors" reporting method is proprietary information. Because of
this, they are extremely reluctant to let any other company know about
the method of getting the values accurately even if the other company
a non-disclosure clause (NDC???)


Actually speedfan has dividers/multipliers/reading modifiers so you can
change the output to some extent.

This is useful for when your CPU fan speed is reported at some obviously
incorrect speed.

Haven't poked around with voltage settings though, so I don't know what's
available.

 

[RJK]

....just the one !

regards, Richard

It's possible. Tables are used to lookup the output from the chips to
determine what the mean. Looks like the sensor on your mobo doesn't
have a table in Speedfan or it is using the wrong table. Same thing
happens in the Motherboard Monitor (MBM) utility.

You might want to go under Configure -> Advanced and see what sensors
are listed in the Chip drop-down list.