CPU Problems slowing computer down.

G

Guest

Hi,

About a week and a half ago my computer started having problems. It seems as
though there's something wrong with the process "System" when I go into the
task manager. It will use up about 50% of my cpu when I try to do certain
things. I have the problem with it being slow mostly when I watch movies or
play games. I'm assuming it means that I've got a graphics problem. I have
the latest driver for my graphics card so it shouldn't be causing me any
problems there. I can't seem to find anything when I've searched here so I'm
hoping that someone can come and save me from this problem as I don't really
have the money for a new computer at the moment.
 
A

Arecibo

Ben said:
Hi,

About a week and a half ago my computer started having problems. It seems
as though there's something wrong with the process "System" when I go
into the task manager. It will use up about 50% of my cpu when I try to
do certain things. I have the problem with it being slow mostly when I
watch movies or play games. I'm assuming it means that I've got a
graphics problem. I have the latest driver for my graphics card so it
shouldn't be causing me any problems there. I can't seem to find anything
when I've searched here so I'm hoping that someone can come and save me
from this problem as I don't really have the money for a new computer at
the moment.

Hi Ben. Try running a Full Service Scan from:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/default.htm
I've run it on two computers, and I've been quite impressed by the results.
 
G

Gerry

Ben

At StartUp, later or all the time

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on
your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information.

How much RAM memory?

What is your processor speed?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Ok

the commit charge numbers are:

Total 261144
Limit 1276224
Peak 424208

My hard disk is 144GB with 36.9GB free

My processor is a P4 2.9ghz

And my ram is 512mb

The thing is that none of this was a problem up until one day when the
computer just started going extremely slow.
 
G

Gerry

Ben

The figures look OK. Is the computer left on 24/7?

Is rthere a pattern as to when the computer is slow i.e, on booting or
later?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.



--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

It's sometimes left on overnight, but not usually. It will usually boot up
fine although I have noticed it being slightly slower since all of this has
happened. I've got McAfee Suite which has an anti-virus/spyware and firewall
in it. I usually find it really slowing down when I go to play a game or
watch some sort of video. Even loading pictures on the internet slows it down
a bit. I'm going to give the HD tune a go and I'll post what it's like after.

Thanks,
Ben
 
G

Guest

HD Tune: ST3160023AS Information

Firmware version : 3.00
Serial number : 3MT05EA7
Capacity : 149.0 GB (~160.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6 - SATA I
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 6 (Ultra ATA/133)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 6 (Ultra ATA/133)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter :
Label :
Capacity : 5120 MB
Usage : 0.00%
Type : FAT32 Hidden
Bootable : No

Partition : 2
Drive letter : C:\
Label : HDD
Capacity : 147497 MB
Usage : 74.35%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

________________________________________________________________

HD Tune: ST3160023AS Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 63 49 6 223881634 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 96 96 0 0 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 620 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 88 60 30 686209676 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 80 80 0 17997 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 645 Ok

(C2) Temperature 39 52 0 39 Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 63 49 0 223881634 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0 Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0 Ok


Power On Time : 17997
Health Status : Ok

The quick error scan showed that everything was ok.
 
J

Jim

Ben said:
It's sometimes left on overnight, but not usually. It will usually boot up
fine although I have noticed it being slightly slower since all of this
has
happened. I've got McAfee Suite which has an anti-virus/spyware and
firewall
in it. I usually find it really slowing down when I go to play a game or
watch some sort of video. Even loading pictures on the internet slows it
down
a bit. I'm going to give the HD tune a go and I'll post what it's like
after.

Thanks,
Ben
Another place to look is the speed of your internet connection. It seems to
me
that slowing down while playing games or slowing down while downloading
pictues
from the internet point to some kind of network problem..

Jim
 
D

Daave

Ben said:
Hi,

About a week and a half ago my computer started having problems. It
seems as though there's something wrong with the process "System"
when I go into the task manager. It will use up about 50% of my cpu
when I try to do certain things. I have the problem with it being
slow mostly when I watch movies or play games. I'm assuming it means
that I've got a graphics problem. I have the latest driver for my
graphics card so it shouldn't be causing me any problems there. I
can't seem to find anything when I've searched here so I'm hoping
that someone can come and save me from this problem as I don't really
have the money for a new computer at the moment.

Task Manager won't yield enough information. Instead, use Process
Explorer:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx

Also, you should supply specs with your next post, including amount of
RAM and type of graphics card.

Since this is a recent problem, you may also have malware. Have you
scanned? And if so, with what?

Have you installed new software recently or done anything else which may
have caused this problem?

Finally, is your problem only when online? Or do you also have problems
offline, too? If the former, it might be an Internet connection issue.
What kind of connection do you have?
 
D

Daave

Ben said:
It's sometimes left on overnight, but not usually. It will usually
boot up fine although I have noticed it being slightly slower since
all of this has happened. I've got McAfee Suite [snip]

Ah, that might be your problem!
 
G

Gerry

Ben

That's fine.

What appears in Event Viewer?

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot which
failed. No Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also
appear in a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the idea, but my internet connection is fine. This type of thing
also happens when I'm offline so I think it's safe to say that it's not the
problem in this case.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the link for process explorer. I started it up and then went to
play one of my games so I could see what was eating up all the CPU, but even
with that it still says "System" is using up about 45-50% while the game is
using up most of the rest of it. I've got 512mb of ram installed which hasn't
been a problem even though I could do with at least another 512mb and my
graphics card is an ATI Radeon X550.
 
G

Guest

Ben said:
Thanks for the link for process explorer. I started it up and then went to
play one of my games so I could see what was eating up all the CPU, but even
with that it still says "System" is using up about 45-50% while the game is
using up most of the rest of it. I've got 512mb of ram installed which hasn't
been a problem even though I could do with at least another 512mb and my
graphics card is an ATI Radeon X550.

Just a shot in the dark, in case you installed some of the Microsoft August
Updates: Could the "About" in the "About a week and a half ago -" mean that
the slow down just happen to start in that time frame?

Did you observe the System Process be different BEFORE the time of slow down?

Would doing a System Restore to a point / date before the "About a week and
a half ago -" be an idea, to see if this is a hardware related problem or not?

Regards,
Ka2H
 
G

Guest

I can't be sure exactly when it happened because I'm not always home and on
the computer myself. I have tried many different restore points, but each
time it fails and so I can't be sure if it would fix the problem. But it was
about a week and a half as in might be a day off of when it started.
 
G

Guest

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 13:26:45
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
Faulting application utorrent.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module
ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x000111de.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 75 74 6f ure uto
0018: 72 72 65 6e 74 2e 65 78 rrent.ex
0020: 65 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e e 0.0.0.
0028: 30 20 69 6e 20 6e 74 64 0 in ntd
0030: 6c 6c 2e 64 6c 6c 20 35 ll.dll 5
0038: 2e 31 2e 32 36 30 30 2e .1.2600.
0040: 32 31 38 30 20 61 74 20 2180 at
0048: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0050: 30 30 31 31 31 64 65 0d 00111de.
0058: 0a .
____________________________________________________________

That's the only one in Application...

_____________________________________________________________

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Tcpip
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4226
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 22:17:22
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent
TCP connect attempts.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 82 10 00 80 ....‚..€
0010: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

_______________________________________________________

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 18:46:40
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
Avg7Core
Avg7RsXP

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

___________________________________________________________________

Event Type: Error
Event Source: ati2mtag
Event Category: CRT
Event ID: 45062
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 18:45:43
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
CRT invalid display type
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z.
0008: 2c 00 00 00 06 b0 00 c0 ,....°.À
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

_____________________________________________________________________

Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10005
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 18:44:25
User: HOME\Hev
Computer: HOME
Description:
DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled
or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to
start the service NMIndexingService with arguments "" in order to run the
server:
{C6A811AB-F8FF-45A4-93E5-FC5CCB650BE7}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

_____________________________________________________________________

And that's all the ones that are in System.
I hope I've copied everything you need...
 
D

Daave

Ben said:
Thanks for the link for process explorer. I started it up and then
went to play one of my games so I could see what was eating up all
the CPU, but even with that it still says "System" is using up about
45-50% [snip]

You need to expand that (click on the plus sign so it becomes a minus
sign).
 
G

Guest

It was expanded, but it wasn't showing what was using it, just showed that it
was using so much of the cpu.

Daave said:
Ben said:
Thanks for the link for process explorer. I started it up and then
went to play one of my games so I could see what was eating up all
the CPU, but even with that it still says "System" is using up about
45-50% [snip]

You need to expand that (click on the plus sign so it becomes a minus
sign).
 
D

Daave

Comments inline.
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 13:26:45
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
Faulting application utorrent.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module
ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x000111de.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 75 74 6f ure uto
0018: 72 72 65 6e 74 2e 65 78 rrent.ex
0020: 65 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e e 0.0.0.
0028: 30 20 69 6e 20 6e 74 64 0 in ntd
0030: 6c 6c 2e 64 6c 6c 20 35 ll.dll 5
0038: 2e 31 2e 32 36 30 30 2e .1.2600.
0040: 32 31 38 30 20 61 74 20 2180 at
0048: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0050: 30 30 31 31 31 64 65 0d 00111de.
0058: 0a .

Since you're running utorrent, have you seen "COMMON PROCEDURES THAT
SHOULD BE FOLLOWED, REGARDLESS OF THE PROBLEM" at
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=15992 ?

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Tcpip
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4226
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 22:17:22
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of
concurrent TCP connect attempts.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 82 10 00 80 ....‚..€
0010: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Have a look at

http://blog.davidkaspar.com/archives/2005/04/windows-xp-sp2-and-event-id-4226.php?page=2

<quote>
There are two scenarios:
1. You computer may be infected with a virus/worm that is trying to
spread
2. You are a networking power users and your applications are being
stalled by the XP SP2
</quote>

We still need to rule out malware!

Otherwise, you may want to try the EventID4226 Patcher listed on page 3
of that article.
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 23/08/2007
Time: 18:46:40
User: N/A
Computer: HOME
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
Avg7Core
Avg7RsXP

Hmmm. You might need to uninstall and reinstall AVG.
 

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