CPU for a new PC

[Jerry Wong]

Which one will you choose? AMD64 or Core2Duo?

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[Dustin Harper]

Core2Duo hands down. But, I'm a gamer, so I'd go for the one with the better
gaming benchmarks. Other than that, they are almost neck and neck. Both are
fast, but the Core2Duo beats the X2 by a decent margin on the things I need
(or want) it too.

However, when I do upgrade, I'd be replacing the CPU, motherboard, video
card and RAM. The X2 would use the same DDR RAM that I already have. But,
since I'm still on AGP, and need a whole system replacement anyway, I'd go
with the Core2Duo replacement!

Coming April 22nd, there are some Intel price breaks coming, and I may be
picking up a quad core Intel for under $300.

 

[Steve Thackery]

Currently it's no contest: Core 2 Duo. The only time to buy an AMD at the
moment is if price is very important (e.g. you're an OEM and buying 'em by
the thousand).

In terms of performance for the money, the Intel is way ahead. Currently
the E6600 looks like the 'sweet spot', being in the corner of the curve
before the price goes up disproportionately.

Thack

 

[George]

If you are an over-clocker consider the 1.8 GHz E4300 for under $200.
Mine is running stable at 2.8 GHz at stock voltage for over two
months. I problably could run it faster. There are reports people
running E4300s at 3.6GHz.

George

 

[Dustin Harper]

The E6300 is about $15-20 more than the 4300, and just as good as an
overclocker. Of course, not many people consider overclocking an option. I
consider it art, though (even my wireless router is overclocked!!).

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[Guest]

CNET has a very good comparative test review of the two dual core processors,
with 2 models from each make.

Cheers

 

[mikeyhsd]

would go with AMD ands down.
get the X2 processor.



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Which one will you choose? AMD64 or Core2Duo?

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Jerry Wong

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But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to
new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. (2 Peter 3:13)

 

[George]

The advantage of the E4300 is that it is for an 800MHz FSB and
consequently has a high multiplier (9x). This allows the use of less
expensive DDR2 800 memory for over-clocking instead more expensive
faster memory (e.g. DDR2 1066). Currently, I run my E4300 at 2.88 GHz
with 320 MHz FSB. The memory multiplier is set to 2.5 which results
in a memory speed of 800 MHz. The smallest memory multiplier is 2x
which would allow a 400 MHz FSB and a 3.6 GHz CPU clock without over
clocking the memory.

George

 

[Dustin Harper]

Are you running that on air cooling?

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[Ger]

What MPB are you runnin' ? I have used Abit forever and am thinking of
changing vendors.. I overclock more during winter.. I use air cooled..

Regards
Gerry Pope

 

[Martin Racette]

I have an AMD 5200+ and extremly happy with it, everything runs smoothly
using Vista x64,

 

[vanilla]

Thanks for the tip on the price breaks coming, Dustin. I am definitely
looking to upgrade my CPU and motherboard. When I built my current rig to
upgrade to Vista, I mistakenly thought an Athlon 2800+ could do the job. If
I try to open the Photo Gallery, my CPU gauge pegs out at 100% and _stays_
there. Photo Gallery crawls trying to draw the thumbnails. I tried to
upgrade to an Athlon 3200+ but got 22 Blue Screens of Death. Reinstalled my
old CPU, begged Vista's forgiveness, and was so happy when everything went
back to normal. This was the first Athlon chip I bought, BTW ... have always
had Intel motherboards and chips before. No problem going back to Intel _as
long as_ I pick a new mobo and chip that is going to work with Vista (g).

My problem is not my video card, BTW. It is a Radeon X1300 512MB RAM. Can
run videos (and Dream Scene Preview) beautifully. My poor CPU pegs out often
if I try to do more than one thing at a time. I have 2GB DDR RAM, so, I am
pretty sure it is my 1.6GHz CPU that I need to upgrade (Experience score
3.4). Please let us know if you get any more info as April nears. Thanks ...
vanilla

 

[George]

Yep. I have a Thermal Take Big Typhon Cooler. BTW, I just bump the
FSB up to 333 MHz. The CPU is running at 3 GHz and the memory is now
over-clocked to 833 MHz. I'm still using stock voltages. It's stable
so far. The memory passed one run through of memtest 86+.

When I first build my computer, it was a lettle flakey when I tried
high over-clocks 3+ GHz. It seems that after two months of burn-in it
is more stable. Hence, I been slow pushing it more. I ran 2.7 at
first, then 2.88 and now 3.0 GHz.

George

 

[Ashton Crusher]

The E6300 is about $15-20 more than the 4300, and just as good as an
overclocker. Of course, not many people consider overclocking an option. I
consider it art, though (even my wireless router is overclocked!!).

I've got an E6300. What is involved in overclocking it and how do you
know you have gone "too far"? Is it as simple as going into the bios
and cranking up the voltage?

 

[George]

I've got an E6300. What is involved in overclocking it and how do you
know you have gone "too far"? Is it as simple as going into the bios
and cranking up the voltage?

It's more complicated than that. Also overclocking can damage your
computer and shorten it's lifespan. If you don't know what you are
doing I strongly advise you to read some articles about it first.
Here are some and you can Google some more:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2903&p=1
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2802&p=1

BTW, I didn't have to raise my processor voltage in order to overclock
it to 3 GHz.

In a nut shell to overclock you CPU, you have to raise the FSB speed.
You have to have a motherboard and BIOS that lets you do this. Also
when you increase the FSB, you'll overclock your memory also unless
you compensate by dropping your memory ratio. At higer overclocks
you'll need to increse voltages to get your system to be stable.
Doing this is risky. An overclock CPU draws more power especially at
higer voltages, so your power supply better be up to it. Also a CPU
gets hotter when you run it faster. Depending on much you overclock
it you may need a better CPU cooler. Here's a link to graphs showing
the cooling abillities of various coolers:

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2943&p=3

Unless you have an understanding about these things, do not overclock.

George

George

 

[Ashton Crusher]

It's more complicated than that. Also overclocking can damage your
computer and shorten it's lifespan. If you don't know what you are
doing I strongly advise you to read some articles about it first.
Here are some and you can Google some more:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2903&p=1
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2802&p=1

BTW, I didn't have to raise my processor voltage in order to overclock
it to 3 GHz.

In a nut shell to overclock you CPU, you have to raise the FSB speed.
You have to have a motherboard and BIOS that lets you do this. Also
when you increase the FSB, you'll overclock your memory also unless
you compensate by dropping your memory ratio. At higer overclocks
you'll need to increse voltages to get your system to be stable.
Doing this is risky. An overclock CPU draws more power especially at
higer voltages, so your power supply better be up to it. Also a CPU
gets hotter when you run it faster. Depending on much you overclock
it you may need a better CPU cooler. Here's a link to graphs showing
the cooling abillities of various coolers:

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2943&p=3

Unless you have an understanding about these things, do not overclock.

George

George

Thanks. I'm going to leave well enough alone.