CPU at 75 Degrees C at boot! Help!

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Naj

I am having a serious issue with my new computer (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe,
AMD Barton 2500+, Thermaltake Volcano 11 HSF, 2x256mb PC2700 RAM, 300W
power supply, GeForce Ti4200 64mb, 20GB WD Hard Drive, 56x CD-ROM, 8x
Burner). At boot, my Bios is registering my CPU at 75 degrees Celcius,
which is somethign like 160 degrees Farenheit. This is completely
ridiculous, there is not even an operating system installed, so there
is nothing that should be pushing my CPU to those temps. The only
thing I can think of is that when I put thermal grease on the CPU
core, a little slopped over the edge. Could that be doing something?
Has anyone else had this trouble with this board? Any solutions?
 
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ToolPackinMama

Naj said:
I am having a serious issue with my new computer (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe,
AMD Barton 2500+, Thermaltake Volcano 11 HSF, 2x256mb PC2700 RAM, 300W
power supply, GeForce Ti4200 64mb, 20GB WD Hard Drive, 56x CD-ROM, 8x
Burner). At boot, my Bios is registering my CPU at 75 degrees Celcius,
which is somethign like 160 degrees Farenheit. This is completely
ridiculous, there is not even an operating system installed, so there
is nothing that should be pushing my CPU to those temps. The only
thing I can think of is that when I put thermal grease on the CPU
core, a little slopped over the edge. Could that be doing something?
Has anyone else had this trouble with this board? Any solutions?

Check and see if a wire is touching the CPU fan and slowing it down.
That happened to me once.
 
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rstlne

Naj said:
I am having a serious issue with my new computer (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe,
AMD Barton 2500+, Thermaltake Volcano 11 HSF, 2x256mb PC2700 RAM, 300W
power supply, GeForce Ti4200 64mb, 20GB WD Hard Drive, 56x CD-ROM, 8x
Burner). At boot, my Bios is registering my CPU at 75 degrees Celcius,
which is somethign like 160 degrees Farenheit. This is completely
ridiculous, there is not even an operating system installed, so there
is nothing that should be pushing my CPU to those temps. The only
thing I can think of is that when I put thermal grease on the CPU
core, a little slopped over the edge. Could that be doing something?
Has anyone else had this trouble with this board? Any solutions?

Fan not spinning or Heatsink not on correctly
I would say you have the heatsink on wrong
 
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loonym

: I am having a serious issue with my new computer (ASUS A7N8X
Deluxe,
: AMD Barton 2500+, Thermaltake Volcano 11 HSF, 2x256mb PC2700
RAM, 300W
: power supply, GeForce Ti4200 64mb, 20GB WD Hard Drive, 56x
CD-ROM, 8x
: Burner). At boot, my Bios is registering my CPU at 75 degrees
Celcius,
: which is somethign like 160 degrees Farenheit. This is
completely
: ridiculous, there is not even an operating system installed, so
there
: is nothing that should be pushing my CPU to those temps. The
only
: thing I can think of is that when I put thermal grease on the
CPU
: core, a little slopped over the edge. Could that be doing
something?
: Has anyone else had this trouble with this board? Any
solutions?

It seems that the heatsink may be incorrectly seated.
 
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Gene Puhl

(e-mail address removed) (Naj) said: @posting.google.com:
I am having a serious issue with my new computer (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe,
AMD Barton 2500+, Thermaltake Volcano 11 HSF, 2x256mb PC2700 RAM, 300W
power supply, GeForce Ti4200 64mb, 20GB WD Hard Drive, 56x CD-ROM, 8x
Burner). At boot, my Bios is registering my CPU at 75 degrees Celcius,
which is somethign like 160 degrees Farenheit. This is completely
ridiculous, there is not even an operating system installed, so there
is nothing that should be pushing my CPU to those temps. The only
thing I can think of is that when I put thermal grease on the CPU
core, a little slopped over the edge. Could that be doing something?
Has anyone else had this trouble with this board? Any solutions?

Did you assemble the PC yourself? In that case....
Did you fit the heatsink correctly, there is a chamfered edge that aligns
with the raised portion of the ZIF, (the hinge end)....

More info required for tighter clarification of the problem.
 
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Roger Squires

If your mobo has a 'cpu disconnect' bios feature, turn that on. And install
the latest bios btw.

rms
 
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Naj

I put the heatsink on as instructed, but I will check that out. But
why would the temp be so high on boot, I literally check as soon as I
turn the conputer on.
 
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Naj

Ok,
My heatsink was mounted backwards, I turned it around, and my temp is
now hovering around 60 degress C (after about 5 mins in BIOS). Is this
normal for a non-oc Barton 2500? I was expecting that I might get up
to this temp once I overclocked to a 2800. Any thoughts?
 
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andreas pissarides

early versions of nf2 bios misquoted temps, mine went from 70 c to 34 c with
the newer bios
 
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Stephen Austin

If you took the heatsink off to remount it, then did you also clean &
reapply thermal compound/pad? Otherwise you wont get a proper contact. You
*can* run it at 60 degrees, but you should get it a lot lower. I'm also
running a 2500 & I get around 40 degrees consistently in a hot room with 3
machines running.

Steve
 
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spodosaurus

Naj said:
I put the heatsink on as instructed, but I will check that out. But
why would the temp be so high on boot, I literally check as soon as I
turn the conputer on.

if you disrupt the thermal pad in your 'checking' that the HSF has been
installed correctly then you'll need to remove the old thermal pad and
clean the CPU die and the heat sink surface thoroughly before apply
thermal paste and reattaching the heat sink.

Ari

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spodosaurus

Naj said:
Ok,
My heatsink was mounted backwards, I turned it around, and my temp is
now hovering around 60 degress C (after about 5 mins in BIOS). Is this
normal for a non-oc Barton 2500? I was expecting that I might get up
to this temp once I overclocked to a 2800. Any thoughts?

You now need to clean off the old thermal pad that you destroyed by not
following the installation instructions. Clean it off the heat sink and
the cpu die. Now apply a very thin layer of thermal paste to the cpu
die and reseat the heat sink.

HTH,

Ari

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donate. You are offered the chance to donate only if you match a person
on the recipient list. Visit www.marrow.org or call your local Red Cross
and ask about registering to be a bone marrow donor.

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Bob Davis

Good suggestion. He should feel the heatsink near the CPU for excessive
heat, while touching the computer case with the other hand to ground
himself. If it is running 60°C it should be hot.
 
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Naj

Actually, the CPU's ghz, 1.83, is recognized, but not the Fact that it
is a 2500. How should the voltages be jumpered?
 
A

AD C

Naj said:
I put the heatsink on as instructed, but I will check that out. But
why would the temp be so high on boot, I literally check as soon as I
turn the conputer on.


Have a look at the side of the heatsink if you can and make sure it is
level and that the part that is like a step, where it is suppose to be.

I put a heat sink on my old 1400 and it was not seated because I pused
it to far over and the heatsink was sitting on the socket not the chip.
 
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loonym

Aster said:
"andreas pissarides" <[email protected]> wrote in solutions?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/23794.pdf
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/quick_ref_faq.pdf
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/24387.pdf

You should read these and other installation guides with your
processor. "A little slopped over the edge" is probably not within
the parameters established by AMD when installing their processor. It
might be easier to just get a thermal heatsink with the "tape" already
applied, to take the guess work out of it. Any type of oily substance
expands exponentially with pressure, you could actually crack the core
of your processor by applying too much paste.

The Barton runs pretty cool at around 30-33 C when properly installed.
"Tweaking" your bios settings could also be the culprit, the automatic
settings work fine. Overclocking a state of the art chip like the
Barton really isn't worth the time or the energy.

So you would tell me that running my 2500 barton @ 11 x 205 for a
core speed of 2250 on air at 40c idle and 54c after 6hrs of
prime85 isn't worth the time or the effort? I really feel i must
disagree. I can take me measly $85 cpu and my $90 m7ncd pro mobo
and turn it into a rig that i see ppl spend hundreds more trying
to achieve. What could possibly be more satisfying? And water
pump, radiator and pelt block are on route.
 
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Strontium

-
loonym stood up at show-n-tell, in (e-mail address removed), and said:
So you would tell me that running my 2500 barton @ 11 x 205 for a
core speed of 2250 on air at 40c idle and 54c after 6hrs of
prime85 isn't worth the time or the effort? I really feel i must
disagree. I can take me measly $85 cpu and my $90 m7ncd pro mobo
and turn it into a rig that i see ppl spend hundreds more trying
to achieve. What could possibly be more satisfying? And water
pump, radiator and pelt block are on route.

Well.... six months, from now, when you are replacing that processor
because you ran it out of spec just don't forget that that might be the
cause of the early demise of the part.
 

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