Continuous Ink Supply System for Epson R265

[Morgan]

Hello

I am considering buying either the Epson r240 or the r265, I'm not too sure
which one as yet and as the price in the UK is very similar that will not be
a factor in my choice. I understand that the r265 can print on a DVD/CD
which might have some use, I'm not too bothered about the LCD display on the
r240. I have noted that the Jet Tec cartridges for the r240 can be filled at
100% greater capacity against that of the originals and the r265 ones are at
30% above their originals.
Any input on the pros and cons of the above would be welcomed

I have seen this....

http://www.diskdepot.co.uk/acatalog/epson_r265_ciss.html

and wondered if anyone has tried one of these systems and would like to
comment on it. It reads very well but I have had no practical experience of
using one and so I'm not too sure how well they will work.

I remember some years ago dealing with a company called 'Inky Fingers' and
after trying to refill a few cartridges I realised how apt their choice of
names was. Hopefully the above might be a way to not repeat the problem of
multi coloured fingers....!!!!

As I will be using my Samsung laser for black / text printing the Epson
would be restricted to just colour use. Photos and then a few leaflets
(having the black done via the Laser first) would be the prime use.



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Regards

Morgan

Noisy hard drive....
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/morgan.tate/

 

[measekite]

Hello

I am considering buying either the Epson r240 or the r265, I'm not too sure
which one as yet and as the price in the UK is very similar that will not be
a factor in my choice. I understand that the r265 can print on a DVD/CD
which might have some use, I'm not too bothered about the LCD display on the
r240. I have noted that the Jet Tec cartridges for the r240 can be filled at
100% greater capacity against that of the originals and the r265 ones are at
30% above their originals.

It sounds to me like you are planning to ruin the printer before you get
it by not using the appropriate ink that the printer calls for. In any
event the Canon IP4300 is a superior machine when using Canon ink. It
is faster, prints duplex, has twin paper feeds and the photo quality is
distinctively better.

 

[Gripper]

I have seen this....

http://www.diskdepot.co.uk/acatalog/epson_r265_ciss.html

and wondered if anyone has tried one of these systems and would like to
comment on it. It reads very well but I have had no practical experience
of using one and so I'm not too sure how well they will work.

I remember some years ago dealing with a company called 'Inky Fingers' and
after trying to refill a few cartridges I realised how apt their choice of
names was. Hopefully the above might be a way to not repeat the problem of
multi coloured fingers....!!!!

I have a CISS for my old Canon S750. I would thoroughly recommend these
systems- I would get another one for my Epson, but I have a very cheap
source of aftermarket cartridges for this.
The CISS systems are pretty easy to install, and refilling the ink tanks is
far easier and less messy than refilling cartridges. I also get a nice warm
glow inside, knowing that I'm not paying the stupid exorbitant prices for
manufacturer's ink cartridges. Let some other mugs buy 'em!
hth
Neil

 

[Morgan]

It sounds to me like you are planning to ruin the printer before you get

it by not using the appropriate ink that the printer calls for. In any
event the Canon IP4300 is a superior machine when using Canon ink. It is
faster, prints duplex, has twin paper feeds and the photo quality is
distinctively better.

Looking at that printer in the UK is about the same price as the Epson, so
that is good

I am seeing that the genuine Canon cartridges are..

THIS IS A GENUINE & ORIGINAL PRODUCT
Manufacturer: CANON
Manufacturer Code: PGI-5BK
Volume/Yield: 26ml

to me that seems to be a large amount of ink for the cost of a genuine
cartridge, am I right to assume that you will get good value for money, in
terms of ink cost for these printers...?

It does seem to be a very capable printer for its price.

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Regards

Morgan

Noisy hard drive....
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/morgan.tate/

 

[Burt]

(snipped the usual Measekite nonsense about ruining your printer with
aftermarket inks)

Looking at that printer in the UK is about the same price as the Epson, so
that is good

I am seeing that the genuine Canon cartridges are..

THIS IS A GENUINE & ORIGINAL PRODUCT
Manufacturer: CANON
Manufacturer Code: PGI-5BK
Volume/Yield: 26ml

to me that seems to be a large amount of ink for the cost of a genuine
cartridge, am I right to assume that you will get good value for money, in
terms of ink cost for these printers...?

It does seem to be a very capable printer for its price.

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Regards

Morgan

Noisy hard drive....
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/morgan.tate/

Morgan - You've now met our resident troll, Measekite. He has never used
aftermarket inks or tried refilling carts. He continues to spout his
diatribe about ruining printers with aftermarket inks even though he has NO
experience with these products. I don't know why he continually tries to
frighten people such as yourself into avoiding these products.

Your previous experience with refilling carts mirrors my first try with
refilling Epson carts. I have been using Canon printers and refilled the
carts with MIS inks for over three years. Others on this NG have used
Formulabs and Hobbicolor inks with no more problems than they would have
experienced with Canon OEM inks. I am presently using an i960 and an ip5000
with MIS inks. The ip5000 has 1 picoliter nozzles and hasn't had a single
problem in one year of use of MIS inks. Another participant uses
Hobbicolors inks in his ip5000 - same story. The printers I use are a
previous generation of Canon printers from the ip4300 and use the bci-6 and
bci-3ebk carts. They are extremely easy to refill and can be refilled with
minimal mess once you learn the technique. The new chipped carts can be
refilled exactly the same way.

The ip4300 is a very good printer from what I've read. It uses carts that
have computer chips attached to thwart the use of CIS systems or refilling.
When you use either of these, Canon warns you that you will lose your
warranty and then disables the ink monitoring system. You will then have to
check ink levels periodically by eye. No problem as the carts are clear and
only take a few seconds to check.

For lots of information on refilling the bci-6, bci-3ebk, and the new
chipped carts, or more on CIS systems, go to the Nifty-Stuff Forum. Above
all, pay no attention to the response this post will get from Measekite.
Most of us on this NG have him "killfiled" and only see his nonsense when
someone like you includes it with your response to him.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

 

[Morgan]

Morgan - You've now met our resident troll, Measekite. He has never used

aftermarket inks or tried refilling carts. He continues to spout his
diatribe about ruining printers with aftermarket inks even though he has
NO experience with these products. I don't know why he continually tries
to frighten people such as yourself into avoiding these products.

Your previous experience with refilling carts mirrors my first try with
refilling Epson carts. I have been using Canon printers and refilled the
carts with MIS inks for over three years. Others on this NG have used
Formulabs and Hobbicolor inks with no more problems than they would have
experienced with Canon OEM inks. I am presently using an i960 and an
ip5000 with MIS inks. The ip5000 has 1 picoliter nozzles and hasn't had a
single problem in one year of use of MIS inks. Another participant uses
Hobbicolors inks in his ip5000 - same story. The printers I use are a
previous generation of Canon printers from the ip4300 and use the bci-6
and bci-3ebk carts. They are extremely easy to refill and can be refilled
with minimal mess once you learn the technique. The new chipped carts
can be refilled exactly the same way.

The ip4300 is a very good printer from what I've read. It uses carts that
have computer chips attached to thwart the use of CIS systems or
refilling. When you use either of these, Canon warns you that you will
lose your warranty and then disables the ink monitoring system. You will
then have to check ink levels periodically by eye. No problem as the
carts are clear and only take a few seconds to check.

For lots of information on refilling the bci-6, bci-3ebk, and the new
chipped carts, or more on CIS systems, go to the Nifty-Stuff Forum. Above
all, pay no attention to the response this post will get from Measekite.
Most of us on this NG have him "killfiled" and only see his nonsense when
someone like you includes it with your response to him.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

Excellent and informative post, many thanks for that.

I used to have a Canon 200 (forgot the exact model) printer few years ago
that after 14months of light use, always using genuine ink cartridges, it
failed on me. It was diagnosed with needing a new print head, which was very
expensive compared to the cost of a new printer. Canon support were not very
helpful and even though the printer had only very light use and used their
cartridges they would not budge with the very high price that they wanted
for the replacement. So a almost new printer was scrapped.

Today I rang Canon in the UK to ask, as a potentially new customer, what
would be the costs etc associated with a print head replacement for the
ip4300, I also asked about their warranty. I was told by the lady that their
printers do not have a warranty as such and any repairs would be judged on
an individual basis. She could give me no idea of the costs of any
serviceable part and suggested I just ring the dealer and not them.

I then rang Epson UK. The lady was VERY helpful and was able to tell me of
the Epson express repair centres, one being within 2 miles of where I live.
She also told me of the warranty options available.

So off I went and bought an Epson 265 printer, I paid 10 UK pounds extra
which then covers the printer for an immediate replacement within three
years for any fault found.

The cost of the Epson was cheaper than the Canon by only 10 pounds, but that
itself paid for the three years warranty.

Maybe I would have got a 'better' printer with the Canon, I'm not sure, but
after my previous experience of owning one and todays experience after
talking with their customer care support I'm happy with the choice that I've
made.

I will explore these cartridges....

http://www.jettec.com/index.asp

....and, after I see how the printer goes, then explore a CIS kit. So thanks
for the link to that forum as I've found it to be quite informative. I need
to find out what inks I need to buy for the CIS kit for my Epson, as well as
which CIS kit to choose....



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Regards

Morgan

Noisy hard drive....
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/morgan.tate/

 

[measekite]

I have contacted all of these vendors and asked them what brand of ink
they sell and they refused to tell me. I then asked them how I can be
sure to tell if they changed their source and they refused to tell me.
I then asked them there ink was not up to the task how could I avoid
purchasing the same thing from another vendor under a different name and
they did not know the answer to that question.
This is a rubber stamp forum for refillers and relabelers. You will not
get an independent view. Go seek out PCWorld, PCMag, and Wilhelm Labs
for a totally unbiased set of information.

Excellent and informative post, many thanks for that.

I used to have a Canon 200 (forgot the exact model) printer few years ago
that after 14months of light use, always using genuine ink cartridges, it
failed on me. It was diagnosed with needing a new print head, which was very
expensive compared to the cost of a new printer. Canon support were not very
helpful and even though the printer had only very light use and used their
cartridges they would not budge with the very high price that they wanted
for the replacement. So a almost new printer was scrapped.

Today I rang Canon in the UK to ask, as a potentially new customer, what
would be the costs etc associated with a print head replacement for the
ip4300, I also asked about their warranty. I was told by the lady that their
printers do not have a warranty as such and any repairs would be judged on
an individual basis. She could give me no idea of the costs of any
serviceable part and suggested I just ring the dealer and not them.

In the states you can buy a brand new IP4300 with a complete set of new
carts on sale for $59.95. That is about the same price as a set of carts.

I then rang Epson UK. The lady was VERY helpful and was able to tell me of
the Epson express repair centres, one being within 2 miles of where I live.
She also told me of the warranty options available.

So off I went and bought an Epson 265 printer, I paid 10 UK pounds extra
which then covers the printer for an immediate replacement within three
years for any fault found.

I still think Canon is better and according to tests it does produce a
better photo faster. In any event use Epson inks for best quality.

The cost of the Epson was cheaper than the Canon by only 10 pounds, but that
itself paid for the three years warranty.

Maybe I would have got a 'better' printer with the Canon, I'm not sure, but
after my previous experience of owning one and todays experience after
talking with their customer care support I'm happy with the choice that I've
made.

I will explore these cartridges....

That is a mistake. Read this ng for a few months and see all of the
people who have Epson printer problems.