Congratulations, New Windows (IE/OE) MS MVP's!

[PCR]

That's the best I can do for you.

--
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Nope. That sig is still 6 lines, and those Master Posts are too
large for my
| mailbox, besides which, by the time one gets thru them, a new
operating system
| has come out.
|
| PCR wrote:
| > Anyway, I am trying to reform.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > | >> <bwaa-ha-ha>
| >>
| >> PCR wrote:
| >>> I never was more wordy than Terhune. And only cquirke is serious
| >>> competition to him-- & possibly Starbuck!
|
|

 

[PCR]

Maybe.

--
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| PCR,
| Are you by chance picking the bones? <bg>
| Burt
|
| | > Just precisely how many contrats do they get?
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > | > To the new MVPs:
| >
| > Contrats!!! and Welcome aboard )
| >
| > --
| > Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
| > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
| > -------------------------------------------
| > Prevent Spyware from being installed:
| > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
| > -------------------------------------------
| >
| >
| > | > Charlie Tame, Don Varnau, Tim Kauppila (aka "Kuay Tim"), and Steve
| > Beniston
| > (aka "__mac")*.
| >
| > Welcome aboard!
| > --
| > ~PA Bear
| >
| > *Now we know! <eg>
| >
| > MS MVP Program
| > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

Congrats and welcome to the madhouse.

 

[Bill in Co.]

Yeah, but what about the rest of them? You may be driving them over to XP
land!

 

[PCR]

The rest of it I cannot discuss by gag order.

--
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Yeah, but what about the rest of them? You may be driving them over
to XP
| land!
|
| PCR wrote:
| > That's the best I can do for you.
| >
| > --
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally you will not sue,
| > Should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > | >> Nope. That sig is still 6 lines, and those Master Posts are too
large for
| >> my mailbox, besides which, by the time one gets thru them, a new
operating
| >> system has come out.
| >>
| >> PCR wrote:
| >>> Anyway, I am trying to reform.
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Thanks or Good Luck,
| >>> There may be humor in this post, and,
| >>> Naturally, you will not sue,
| >>> should things get worse after this,
| >>> PCR
| >>> (e-mail address removed)
| >>> | >>>> <bwaa-ha-ha>
| >>>>
| >>>> PCR wrote:
| >>>>> I never was more wordy than Terhune. And only cquirke is serious
| >>>>> competition to him-- & possibly Starbuck!
|
|

 

[RJK]

What's a "(IE/OE) MS MVP's!" ...? ...it looks rather rude to me

regards, Richard

 

[mac]

What's a "(IE/OE) MS MVP's!" ...? ...it looks rather rude to me

regards, Richard

One of them is a peabrain, Richard

 

[PCR]

They are e-i-e-i-o MVPs & have been immortalized in song, RJK.

--
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| What's a "(IE/OE) MS MVP's!" ...? ...it looks rather rude to me

|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| | > Charlie Tame, Don Varnau, Tim Kauppila (aka "Kuay Tim"), and Steve
| Beniston
| > (aka "__mac")*.
| >
| > Welcome aboard!
| > --
| > ~PA Bear
| >
| > *Now we know! <eg>
| >
| > MS MVP Program
| > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
|
|

 

[RB]

Are you insane?!!! Why would you post an executable with this post?!!!

{Cross-posting reduced.]

OE slow to load in WinXP: See the Messenger-related part of
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/performance.htm#slowstart

More at:

http://kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_oe.htm
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/xp_messenger.htm
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/win_mess.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WinXP File Search:

Search Menu Fix Tool for XP (attached; save and scan before using)
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/

49. Old Style Search Engine On or Off
136. Search for All File Types
148. Set All Search Options to Active - & Undo
&c.
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm


Next?
--
HTH...Please post back to this thread

~Robear Dyer (aka PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet
http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html

OK then let's ask them the questions about certain XP functions, namely
OE slow to load, Search for files etc is non operational in Explorer. I
don't seem to get a guaranteed fix from the Knowledge Base.

 

[cquirke (MVP Win9x)]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:40:34 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Milnes"

OK then let's ask them the questions about certain XP functions, namely OE slow
to load, Search for files etc is non operational in Explorer.

I don't "do" OE, having abandoned it as unfit for use long ago.

Barriers to searching for files in XP:

1) Different syntax

Unlike Win9x, where spaces acted as separators between file names that
weren't bound together with quotes, XP requires comma separators:

this.txt that.doc "this name is in quotes.*" - OK in '9x
this.txt, that.doc, "this name is in quotes.*" - required in XP

2) XP hides stuff

Unless you go into the Advanced search options and turn on things like
"show hidden and systerm files", "search in system directories" etc.,
a Find in XP is likely to skip what you my want to see most.

3) Text scanning complications

In Win9x, text is ASCII or ANSI, meaning one byte per character (the
two differ only in terms of what characters are assigned to
extended-range codes). In XP, text is as likely to be iin Unicode,
which uses two bytes per character so as to embrace a wider range of
international characters without resorting to code page trickery.

That bedevils text searching, of course! So, by design, XP doesn't do
a direct byte-for-byte text serach within all file types. If text
searches are your thing, you may need to find and test alternate tools

--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -

Dreams are stack dumps of the soul

 

[Bill Blanton]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:40:34 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Milnes"


Barriers to searching for files in XP:

1) Different syntax

Unlike Win9x, where spaces acted as separators between file names that
weren't bound together with quotes, XP requires comma separators:

this.txt that.doc "this name is in quotes.*" - OK in '9x
this.txt, that.doc, "this name is in quotes.*" - required in XP

2) XP hides stuff

Unless you go into the Advanced search options and turn on things like
"show hidden and systerm files", "search in system directories" etc.,
a Find in XP is likely to skip what you my want to see most.

Unless tweaked, it will also not search types that do not have a filter
registered under the .ext's PersistentHandler key. Even when you
specify an "unknown" extension explictly in the filename field (*.foo),
it will fail.

3) Text scanning complications

In Win9x, text is ASCII or ANSI, meaning one byte per character (the
two differ only in terms of what characters are assigned to
extended-range codes). In XP, text is as likely to be iin Unicode,
which uses two bytes per character so as to embrace a wider range of
international characters without resorting to code page trickery.

Depending on the "type", this could be a result of the associated filter.
As an example, the filter for *htm and *.html, won't find tags. A search

That bedevils text searching, of course! So, by design, XP doesn't do
a direct byte-for-byte text serach within all file types.

The tweak is-
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex]
"FilterFilesWithUnknownExtensions"=dword:00000001

This will enable the text filter for unknown types, but won't override any
filters in place. A search for "MZ", on *.exe, will still come up blank.

If text
searches are your thing, you may need to find and test alternate tools

AgentRansack is good.

 

[cquirke (MVP Win9x)]

Unless tweaked, it will also not search types that do not have a filter
registered under the .ext's PersistentHandler key. Even when you
specify an "unknown" extension explictly in the filename field (*.foo),
it will fail.

Are you referring to searching *for* files, or searching for text
*within* files? I only refer to the latter in (3).

Depending on the "type", this could be a result of the associated filter.
As an example, the filter for *htm and *.html, won't find tags. A search
on "<body>" will most likely come up empty.

The tweak is-
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex]
"FilterFilesWithUnknownExtensions"=dword:00000001

This will enable the text filter for unknown types, but won't override any
filters in place. A search for "MZ", on *.exe, will still come up blank.

Thanks for the heads-up... Find is rather more broken than I thought,
though I seldom search for content within files. I can see how
Unicode poses challenges, but problem (1) is a needless toe-stubber.

Maybe they should forget about drawing cutesy puppy-dogs in Gif
Animalator and fill that UI space with something useful, like a few
"search as ASCII/Unicode" radio buttons (and *remember* the choice!)

--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -

Dreams are stack dumps of the soul

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

....

Maybe they should forget about drawing cutesy puppy-dogs in Gif
Animalator and fill that UI space with something useful, like a few
"search as ASCII/Unicode" radio buttons (and *remember* the choice!)

Wouldn't even need that if we could just enter some regular expressions
in the "...in the file:" field.

As it is the only thing you can do without third-party assistance now is
open a command window at the appropriate directory level and enter:

findstr /s /m /i /r "D.B.s.t.r.i.n.g." *.*

Well, actually, you can make your search expression more restrictive
than that by using an inverse range instead of a "match any char" pattern
but who the heck is going to be coding this (or something more extreme)
everytime:

findstr /s /m /i /r "D[^0-9A-Za-z]B[^0-9A-Za-z]..." *.*

BTW findstr seems to understand what that range means but I managed
to crash Visual Studio's MDE with it. ;( YMMV.


---

 

[Bill Blanton]

Are you referring to searching *for* files, or searching for text
*within* files? I only refer to the latter in (3).

The latter. For text within. Create a new "unregistered type" file such as
foo.bar and put a string "string" inside. Specify _explictly_ "foo.bar" in the
filename field and "string" in the text field. XP won't find it.

Depending on the "type", this could be a result of the associated filter.
As an example, the filter for *htm and *.html, won't find tags. A search
on "<body>" will most likely come up empty.

The tweak is-
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex]
"FilterFilesWithUnknownExtensions"=dword:00000001

This will enable the text filter for unknown types, but won't override any
filters in place. A search for "MZ", on *.exe, will still come up blank.

Thanks for the heads-up... Find is rather more broken than I thought,
though I seldom search for content within files. I can see how
Unicode poses challenges, but problem (1) is a needless toe-stubber.

It'll be interesting to see the new search tool that Longhorn is going to
im[plement, with its "WinFS/SQL" metadata file attributes. Mabey it'll be
more dumbed-down with only a "waht do you want to find today?..." field.

Maybe they should forget about drawing cutesy puppy-dogs in Gif
Animalator and fill that UI space with something useful, like a few
"search as ASCII/Unicode" radio buttons (and *remember* the choice!)

I just don't use it (XP's search) anymore for simple searches.
In fact, if I could remove it from the context menu, I probably would.

 

[Bill Blanton]

...

Maybe they should forget about drawing cutesy puppy-dogs in Gif
Animalator and fill that UI space with something useful, like a few
"search as ASCII/Unicode" radio buttons (and *remember* the choice!)

Wouldn't even need that if we could just enter some regular expressions
in the "...in the file:" field.

As it is the only thing you can do without third-party assistance now is
open a command window at the appropriate directory level and enter:

findstr /s /m /i /r "D.B.s.t.r.i.n.g." *.*

Well, actually, you can make your search expression more restrictive
than that by using an inverse range instead of a "match any char" pattern
but who the heck is going to be coding this (or something more extreme)
everytime:

findstr /s /m /i /r "D[^0-9A-Za-z]B[^0-9A-Za-z]..." *.*

That looks similar to the old Borland implementation of grep.

BTW findstr seems to understand what that range means but I managed
to crash Visual Studio's MDE with it. ;( YMMV.

\:a = [a-zA-Z0-9] (in VCpp6 anyway)

D\:aB\:a (...)

Easier to type, but harder to remember.

 

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

HEY!! That's MY line!!

--
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer

Fresh meat <g>!

Congratulations!



~~~~~~

Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA
(e-mail address removed)
Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[PCR]

ALL your lines have been memorized, & you are no longer needed. Besides,
we have mac, now, & his name is easier to spell! We could even spell it
ALL SPACES: " "!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| HEY!! That's MY line!!
|
| --
| _______________________________________
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| | Fresh meat <g>!
|
| Congratulations!
|
|
|
| ~~~~~~
|
| Regards.
|
| Gerry
|
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| FCA
| (e-mail address removed)
| Stourport, Worcs, England
| Enquire, plan and execute.
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
| | >
| > | > > Charlie Tame, Don Varnau, Tim Kauppila (aka "Kuay Tim"), and Steve
| > Beniston
| > > (aka "__mac")*.
| > >
| > > Welcome aboard!
| > > --
| > > ~PA Bear
| > >
| > > *Now we know! <eg>
| > >
| > > MS MVP Program
| > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > >
| > Thank you, I am a bit lost with all the stuff coming at me
| >
| >
|

 

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

 

[PCR]

So, are you willing to rearrange the vowels in Hardmeier-- or at least
trade a few with Leboeuf?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
|
|
| --
| _______________________________________
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| | > ALL your lines have been memorized, & you are no longer needed.
Besides,
| > we have mac, now, & his name is easier to spell! We could even
spell it
| > ALL SPACES: " "!
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > | > | HEY!! That's MY line!!
| > |
| > | --
| > | _______________________________________
| > | Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
| > | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| > |
| > | | > | Fresh meat <g>!
| > |
| > | Congratulations!
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | ~~~~~~
| > |
| > | Regards.
| > |
| > | Gerry
| > |
| > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > | FCA
| > | (e-mail address removed)
| > | Stourport, Worcs, England
| > | Enquire, plan and execute.
| > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > > Charlie Tame, Don Varnau, Tim Kauppila (aka "Kuay Tim"), and
Steve
| > | > Beniston
| > | > > (aka "__mac")*.
| > | > >
| > | > > Welcome aboard!
| > | > > --
| > | > > ~PA Bear
| > | > >
| > | > > *Now we know! <eg>
| > | > >
| > | > > MS MVP Program
| > | > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > >
| > | > Thank you, I am a bit lost with all the stuff coming at me
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

 

[\ \]

ALL your lines have been memorized, & you are no longer needed. Besides,
we have mac, now, & his name is easier to spell! We could even spell it
ALL SPACES: " "!

They are in a container, called a scrotum?