Computer Booting Speeding

[Kayman]

I'm curious. What's "unsafe" about using msconfig? If the OP leaves his
virus scanner (and perhaps firewall) active then I can see no danger.
Furthermore, all actions are fully reversible.

For the experienced user msconfig is "safe" to use.
However, the authors of AutoRuns Dr. Mark Russinovich
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/techfellow/Russinovich/default.mspx
and Bryce Cogswell assert that "AutoRuns goes way beyond the MSConfig
utility bundled with Windows Me and XP."
I would argue that this particular utility is better, versatile and more
user friendly than msconfig. It may not be a 'pure native' MSFT product but
it certainly fires on all cylinders! Also, the inexperienced will find this
utility far more educational than msconfig.
BTW, 'native' MSFT products may not necessarily superior to 'non-native'
products; Windows Live On Care, Defragment and Back-Up applications just
stick out like dog balls

 

[John John (MVP)]

For the experienced user msconfig is "safe" to use.
However, the authors of AutoRuns Dr. Mark Russinovich
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/techfellow/Russinovich/default.mspx
and Bryce Cogswell assert that "AutoRuns goes way beyond the MSConfig
utility bundled with Windows Me and XP."
I would argue that this particular utility is better, versatile and more
user friendly than msconfig. It may not be a 'pure native' MSFT product but
it certainly fires on all cylinders! Also, the inexperienced will find this
utility far more educational than msconfig.
BTW, 'native' MSFT products may not necessarily superior to 'non-native'
products; Windows Live On Care, Defragment and Back-Up applications just
stick out like dog balls

That is all true but it doesn't mean that Autoruns is completely safe to
use, one wrong move in there and the computer may not reboot or the
computer may not fire on all cylinders when it does reboots! People who
use Autoruns should pay attention to what they are disabling or they may
quickly get themselves in a fine mess, certainly novices and less
experienced users need to be careful when using this utility and they
should not be led to believe that making changes with this utility is
completely safe, it isn't!

John

 

[Gerry]

Daave

My choice of words seems to have generated some debate. All changes are
to a certain extent unsafe, especially when the user is inexperienced.
Your point is well made. I think I may slightly amend my standard
message to place more emphasisis on disabling over using the delete
option.

Where Autoruns scores is that it provides a more complete list than
msconfig. The interface is also more user friendly and, as someone else
has pointed out, it can contribute to the user learning more about
individual entries. However, I do not feel that either Autoruns or
Msconfig should be used to change service settings. It is better to
access the list of Services in Administrative Tools to do this.

The delete option is not reversible so the user needs to be certain that
removal is the right thing to do. Disabling as an intermediate step is
sensible if the user is unsure. It's use is most appropriate when the
uninstall option of software has left remnants. It is not in my view
appropriate for system items. What is a "system item" could lead us to
long debate and I suggest that is left for another occasion.


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Regards.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[Gerry]

Pegasus

My original post was to help Shrikant solve his problem. I did not
invite a minute examination and line by questioning of my approach by
another expert. You decided to do that and I do not see why I should
rollover without answering the very detailed points you made. Given that
I did not initiate or seek an exchange it is hard to see how you see my
response as trying to score points. It was a rebuttal of your detailed
critique of my post.

I will look into your step by step approach to using msconfig in
conjunction with time. Thank you. It is not something I have thought to
try.

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Pegasus

My original post was to help Shrikant solve his problem. I did not invite
a minute examination and line by questioning of my approach by another
expert. You decided to do that and I do not see why I should rollover
without answering the very detailed points you made. Given that I did not
initiate or seek an exchange it is hard to see how you see my response as
trying to score points. It was a rebuttal of your detailed critique of my
post.

I will look into your step by step approach to using msconfig in
conjunction with time. Thank you. It is not something I have thought to
try.

You asked several times "How do you know?". I answered your questions.

If you prefer not to get involved in a detailed discussion about the merits
of one versus the other product then using neutral statements would be a
good starting point. Instead of writing

"A safer way than msconfig . . ." you might have writen:
"An alternative way than msconfig . . ."

 

[Gerry]

Pegasus

I am interested in helping others, not pursuing the topic with you
because it is obvious your mind is closed. You have your views and are
not receptive to the views of others. That's the way it is with you and
nothing I can say will produce any change.


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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Kayman]

That is all true but it doesn't mean that Autoruns is completely safe to
use,

Correct, I didn't state the contrary but emphasized user-friendliness,
versatility and the educational advantage over msconfig thus making
AutoRuns a better tool to work with.

one wrong move in there and the computer may not reboot or the
computer may not fire on all cylinders when it does reboots!

Yes, but this is not unique to AutoRuns.

People who use Autoruns should pay attention to what they are
disabling or they may quickly get themselves in a fine mess,
certainly novices and less experienced users need to be careful when
using this utility and they should not be led to believe that making
changes with this utility is completely safe, it isn't!

None of these utilities are 'completely safe'! Inexperienced users should
familiarize themselves with this utility prior engaging their clicking
finger; which really applies to all configuration tools.

 

[Monitor]

Pegasus

I am interested in helping others, not pursuing the topic with you
because it is obvious your mind is closed. You have your views and are
not receptive to the views of others. That's the way it is with you and
nothing I can say will produce any change.

Gerry

This thread is a perfect illustration of "Gerry's Law": If you don't agree
with me then your mind is closed.

 

[Daave]

[snip discussion of pros and cons of msconfig and AutoRuns]

None of these utilities are 'completely safe'! Inexperienced users
should
familiarize themselves with this utility prior engaging their clicking
finger; which really applies to all configuration tools.

Very succinct and correct!