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X
It says to uninstall any third party firewalls before installation so
does that mean that I leave windows firewall installed?
does that mean that I leave windows firewall installed?
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Alias
X said:
Just disable the Windows firewall before installing Comodo. XP's
security center will recognize Comodo and accept it.
Alias
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xxx_
Windows Firewall is not a "third party" firewall as it is created by
Microsoft. Third party software are software that are not created by
microsoft.
Microsoft. Third party software are software that are not created by
microsoft.
K
Kayman
I hope you're not going to regret installing "Phoney Baloney ware" to your
precious operating system
J
John
X said:
Be careful installing Commodo Pro, as a low spec PC will run slower with
it installed.
John.
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Alias
xxx_ said:
One should disable it nonetheless before installing Comodo. Having two
software firewalls running will not work.
Alias
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Alias
John said:
And "low spec" is? I have it running on an Athlon XP 2200 with one gig
of RAM and I am experiencing no performance problems at all.
Alias
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windmap
Windows firewall has all the features to protect ur computers fromX said:
attacks.I dont think you need comodo firewall.
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Alias
windmap said:
Windows firewall only protects from traffic coming in and does nothing
to flag traffic going out. So, yes, one needs a proper firewall, not the
Windows crap.
Alias
J
John
windmap said:
That's absolute rubbish.
John.
K
Kayman
1. Do not work as administrator, use limtited user account (LUA) for
day-to-day work.
2. Keep your system (and all software on it) patched.
3. Review use of IE and OE.
4. Don't expose services to public networks.
In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.)
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html
Care to elaborate?
The proper firewall *is* crap! It's Phoney Baloney ware aka Illusion ware!
Sunbelt Software - the vendor of Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall
Excerpts:
....we have some reservations about personal firewall "leak testing" in
general. While we appreciate and support the unique value of independent
security testing, we are admittedly skeptical as to just how meaningful
these leak tests really are, especially as they reflect real-world
environments.
The key assumption of "leak testing" -- namely, that it is somehow useful
to measure the outbound protection provided by personal firewalls in cases
where malware has already executed on the test box -- strikes us as a
questionable basis on which to build a security assessment. Today's malware
is so malicious and cleverly designed that it is often safest to regard PCs
as so thoroughly compromised that nothing on the box can be trusted once
the malware executes. In short, "leak testing" starts after the game is
already lost, as the malware has already gotten past the inbound firewall
protection.
Moreover, "leak testing" is predicated on the further assumption that
personal firewalls should warn users about outbound connections even when
the involved code components are not demonstrably malicious or suspicious
(as is the case with the simulator programs used for "leak testing"). In
fact, this kind of program design risks pop-up fatigue in users,
effectively lowering the overall security of the system -- the reason
developers are increasingly shunning this design for security applications.
[unquote]
Firewall LeakTesting.
http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-105.htm
Excerpts:
Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless."
Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,...
Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest anymore?"
Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine, because
you..."
Leo: "You can't test enough".
Steve: "Well, yeah.
Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you
can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially
worthless."
PFW Criticism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_firewall#Criticisms
"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html
Why your firewall sucks.
http://tooleaky.zensoft.com/
"But I quickly realized the truth: The added protection provided by
outbound filtering is entirely illusory."
At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx
Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."
Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."
'nuff said
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Alias
Kayman said:
1. Do not work as administrator, use limtited user account (LUA) for
day-to-day work.
2. Keep your system (and all software on it) patched.
3. Review use of IE and OE.
4. Don't expose services to public networks.
In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.)
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html
Care to elaborate?
The proper firewall *is* crap! It's Phoney Baloney ware aka Illusion ware!
Sunbelt Software - the vendor of Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall
Excerpts:
LOL! MS says their firewall is sufficient and you believe them. Vista's
firewall offers both inbound and outbound protection. Oops.
'nuff said
Um, I recommend Comodo, not Kerio. I also recommend a hard firewall that
comes with a decent router.
Just curious, why are you using Chinese encoding?
Alias
B
Bruce Chambers
windmap said:
That's utter nonsense.
WinXP's built-in firewall is barely adequate at stopping incoming
attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's firewall
does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
someone else using your computer) might download and install
inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other than
to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about) the
bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any
application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it
there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it will
also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a
Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.
ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Comodo are all much better than WinXP's
built-in firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are
free versions of each readily available. Even the commercially
available Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far,
although it does take a heavier toll of system performance then do
ZoneAlarm or Comodo.
Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and
anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should always
be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and should
not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself.
Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to learn
how to secure his/her own computer.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
U
Unknown
And everyone that you name cause all kinds of problems except windows
firewall. Why is that?.
firewall. Why is that?.
B
Bruce Chambers
Unknown said:
Wouldn't know. I've experienced absolutely no problems with any of
them, nor do I know anyone who has. What specific problem has each
caused you? What did the manufacturer of each offer as solution when
contacted by you?
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
U
Unknown
Answered inline
What did the manufacturer of each offer as solution when
I use Windows Firewall and don't have any problems.
Once again, read these newsgroups for all the problems they cause.
Don't you read these newsgroups??Bruce Chambers said:
None because I refuse to use them.
What did the manufacturer of each offer as solution when
None because I refuse to use them.
I use Windows Firewall and don't have any problems.
Once again, read these newsgroups for all the problems they cause.