clock syncro

J

JS

Hi all,
I noticed my clock getting very slow, losing a hour or so per day, so I
would update it regularly. I put a new battery in thinking that was the
problem, but now the clock runs better, but I cannot update with the time
server. I have tried both servers with the same result.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
 
W

Wesley Vogel

An error occurred getting the status of the last synchronization. The RPC
Server is unavailable.

Make sure that the Windows Time service is running.

Open Services...
Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK |
Scroll down to and double click Windows Time |
If the Startup type is Disabled, set it to Automatic or Manual |
Start the service by clicking the Start button | When the service starts,
close Services

Try to update the time again.

Sometimes the server is just busy, try again later.

To restore the Windows Time Service if it has been broken. Open a command
prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |

Type: net stop W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /unregister hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /register hit your Enter key.

Type: net start W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: sc query W32Time hit your Enter key.

It will look something like this...

------------------
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>net stop W32Time
The Windows Time service is not started.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3521.

C:\>NET HELPMSG 3521

The *** service is not started.

C:\>w32tm /unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\>net start W32Time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.

C:\>sc query W32Time

SERVICE_NAME: W32Time
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,ACCEPTS_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

C:\>
------------------

If you still are having problems. Maybe run the unregister command, reboot,
run the register command and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /unregister

Hit Enter. Close whatever you need to close and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /register

Hit Enter. See if Windows Time is in Services, if not reboot and look
again.

Explanation.

w32tm /register
Register to run as a service and add default configuration to the registry.

w32tm /unregister
Unregister service and remove all configuration information from the
registry.

For help, type: w32tm /?

Also, paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

hh ntcmds.chm::/time_w32tm.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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J

JS

Wesley,
Thanks so much for your help. What you suggested worked great.
If I had dug deep enough into "help", would that advise been there?
Thanks again,
Jim
Wesley Vogel said:
An error occurred getting the status of the last synchronization. The RPC
Server is unavailable.

Make sure that the Windows Time service is running.

Open Services...
Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK |
Scroll down to and double click Windows Time |
If the Startup type is Disabled, set it to Automatic or Manual |
Start the service by clicking the Start button | When the service starts,
close Services

Try to update the time again.

Sometimes the server is just busy, try again later.

To restore the Windows Time Service if it has been broken. Open a command
prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |

Type: net stop W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /unregister hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /register hit your Enter key.

Type: net start W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: sc query W32Time hit your Enter key.

It will look something like this...

------------------
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>net stop W32Time
The Windows Time service is not started.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3521.

C:\>NET HELPMSG 3521

The *** service is not started.

C:\>w32tm /unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\>net start W32Time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.

C:\>sc query W32Time

SERVICE_NAME: W32Time
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,ACCEPTS_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

C:\>
------------------

If you still are having problems. Maybe run the unregister command,
reboot,
run the register command and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /unregister

Hit Enter. Close whatever you need to close and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /register

Hit Enter. See if Windows Time is in Services, if not reboot and look
again.

Explanation.

w32tm /register
Register to run as a service and add default configuration to the
registry.

w32tm /unregister
Unregister service and remove all configuration information from the
registry.

For help, type: w32tm /?

Also, paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

hh ntcmds.chm::/time_w32tm.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
JS said:
Hi all,
I noticed my clock getting very slow, losing a hour or so per day, so I
would update it regularly. I put a new battery in thinking that was the
problem, but now the clock runs better, but I cannot update with the time
server. I have tried both servers with the same result.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
 
J

JS

Well heck, my clock still is running slow.
What else?


JS said:
Wesley,
Thanks so much for your help. What you suggested worked great.
If I had dug deep enough into "help", would that advise been there?
Thanks again,
Jim
Wesley Vogel said:
An error occurred getting the status of the last synchronization. The RPC
Server is unavailable.

Make sure that the Windows Time service is running.

Open Services...
Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK |
Scroll down to and double click Windows Time |
If the Startup type is Disabled, set it to Automatic or Manual |
Start the service by clicking the Start button | When the service starts,
close Services

Try to update the time again.

Sometimes the server is just busy, try again later.

To restore the Windows Time Service if it has been broken. Open a
command
prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |

Type: net stop W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /unregister hit your Enter key.

Type: w32tm /register hit your Enter key.

Type: net start W32Time hit your Enter key.

Type: sc query W32Time hit your Enter key.

It will look something like this...

------------------
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>net stop W32Time
The Windows Time service is not started.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3521.

C:\>NET HELPMSG 3521

The *** service is not started.

C:\>w32tm /unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\>net start W32Time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.

C:\>sc query W32Time

SERVICE_NAME: W32Time
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,ACCEPTS_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

C:\>
------------------

If you still are having problems. Maybe run the unregister command,
reboot,
run the register command and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /unregister

Hit Enter. Close whatever you need to close and reboot.

Type in a command prompt:

w32tm /register

Hit Enter. See if Windows Time is in Services, if not reboot and look
again.

Explanation.

w32tm /register
Register to run as a service and add default configuration to the
registry.

w32tm /unregister
Unregister service and remove all configuration information from the
registry.

For help, type: w32tm /?

Also, paste the following line into Start | Run and click OK...

hh ntcmds.chm::/time_w32tm.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
JS said:
Hi all,
I noticed my clock getting very slow, losing a hour or so per day, so I
would update it regularly. I put a new battery in thinking that was the
problem, but now the clock runs better, but I cannot update with the
time
server. I have tried both servers with the same result.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
 
U

Uncle Grumpy

JS said:
I noticed my clock getting very slow, losing a hour or so per day, so I
would update it regularly. I put a new battery in thinking that was the
problem,

That battery has nothing to do with your problem. Its purpose is to
maintain your CMOS settings when power is disconnected - unplugged -
from your computer.

You have other problems, I'm sure.
 
J

JS

I have put in a fresh battery and the clock still runs very slow. what else
can I do? I got the update to working again, thanks to you.
Jim
 
W

Wesley Vogel

The CMOS battery, besides maintaining the BIOS settings, also powers the
internal clock or real-time clock (RTC) when the machine is turned off.
System Time and System Date being two of those BIOS settings.

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D

Detlev Dreyer

JS said:
I noticed my clock getting very slow, losing a hour or so per day, so I
would update it regularly. I put a new battery in thinking that was the
problem,

Nope. If the clocks loses time while running Windows, this is not a CMOS
battery problem.
but now the clock runs better,

Sure, any Placebo makes you feel better as well. This problem is usually
caused by poor software running in the background, eg. any Norton stuff:

"System clock loses time when using Norton AntiVirus 2000"
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPOR...85256ed80067b337?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam

"System clock loses accuracy under Windows XP after installing Norton
AntiVirus 2002"
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPOR...85256edd00478df3?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Hi Jim,

Does the clock lose time while your machine is running?

If a computer loses time while it is on, it is not the CMOS battery.

When the machine first boots, Windows reads the computer clock to set the
time. After the machine is running Windows takes care of keeping track of
the time by counting timer interrupts generated from the same oscillator
that runs the system bus.

Try this, from Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User...
<quote>
If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the following
commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time
<quote>

Did you set the correct time on your CMOS clock when you changed the
battery?
If Windows displays the wrong time when it first starts, your CMOS clock may
need to be set. You have to access the BIOS to set it.

Or does it seem to lose time when the machine is first booted, like it lost
time while the machine was off?

That is a CMOS battery problem.

You can compare the system time with the Windows clock.
To determine if the time loss is a result of a weak computer battery:
1. Click Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK.
2. At the command prompt, type: time /t and then press ENTER.
3. Compare this time with the time that is reported by the clock on the
taskbar.
4. Type exit, and then press ENTER.
If the computer's time and the time on the clock are different, the
computer's battery may be too weak to keep accurate time, and it should be
replaced. For information about how to replace the battery, refer to the
documentation included with your computer.

The time /t command displays the current system time, without prompting
you to enter a new time.

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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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W

Wesley Vogel

It figures that Norton/Symancrap would screw up the time as well as
everything else it screws up. It also figures that you would have to
download something to fix that. I wonder what the fix gets its hooks into
and what else that messes up?

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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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D

Detlev Dreyer

Wesley Vogel said:
It figures that Norton/Symancrap would screw up the time as well as
everything else it screws up. It also figures that you would have to
download something to fix that.

Nope, I'm not the OP. Note that I do not use any Symantec crap and that
none of my system clocks loses time.
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Nope, I'm not the OP. Note that I do not use any Symantec crap and that
none of my system clocks loses time.

But you are the fella who posted the Symantec crap links that I read.

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D

Detlev Dreyer

Wesley Vogel said:
But you are the fella who posted the Symantec crap links that I read.

This does not mean that my machines are concerned. You should not assume
that anybody replying to the OP has the same problem/s when posting
related links.
 
J

JS

It loses time when running and I don't dare have any Norton stuff!
I will try what you suggested Wes and report back.
Jim
 
W

Wesley Vogel

This does not mean that my machines are concerned. You should not assume
that anybody replying to the OP has the same problem/s when posting
related links.

I never once assumed that. Since English is your second language, I will
overlook your not having understood my post.
I wonder what the fix gets its hooks into and what else that messes up?

That is known as a rhetorical question.

rhetorical
b : employed for rhetorical effect; especially : asked merely for effect
with no answer expected <a rhetorical question>
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?rhetorical

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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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